Good point and I bet not.

no he wouldn't.......instead of 'he's stirring it up nicely and good on him'.....it'd be..........'samantha is a complete bitch.'...

I don't like him at all. Yes he can be funny at times but he is just plain rude and offensive where there is no need to be.
I don't think that is funny.

i agree with you isadora..........and he likes to finish his insult with.......'i'm just joking'..........yes in some respects he's made the long termers think about things.......but most of the time he's just slagging people off........and dressing as a cockroach to go in the pool and then shouting out across the garden just screamed.....'look at me look at me'........he's as desperate for camera time as anyone else

I think he gets away with it because he is cheeky with it and when he says things, it doesn't sound malicious or aggressive.  If Sam were Samantha, I would think the same.

Oh and I don't particularly like the lad, I just love the fact that he is winding them up.

I think it sounds aggressive and rude.
He has ruined BB for me now. I just don't want to watch it anymore.

Fair enough.  I don't.

Of course he is.... his whole purpose is attention seeking behaviour. He is vile and I wouldn't mind betting that is how he is on the outside. I just want to sit him on the naughty step and take his favourite toy away.
Well call me old fashioned but I don't think behaviour like that should ever be celebrated. I know that we are in a real minority here but heigh ho.

isadora i think it's safe to say he is....one of his mates was on bblb saying how he'd called another mates g/f a 'fat pig' to her face........

ONE day I hope someone gives him what he deserves... doesn't need to be physical. He just needs to be completely deflated and have his ego shredded - not a lot to ask...

I don't like his "fat slag" and insulting comments like that, or when he shoved his crotch in her face.  I do, however, like him winding them up about the romance and magazine deals and what is going on outside the house.  Gets them thinking.

If Sam was Samantha this forum and all other forums would be screaming for her head on a platter. She would be the bitch to end all bitches.

And that is fair enough - he is like a nemesis. But the other stuff he says makes me dislike him.
No need for it - he has loads on them without resorting to spiteful playground insults.

he could've played it much more cleverly..........say for example john and josie.....if he'd said something like......'i really wouldn't be laying around in bed together so much'......and when they asked why say something like...'well it doesn't look too good all the time,i can't say why'...........that would've got them thinking..........but to say 'you're a fat slag josie..you're doing it for the mags'....or words to that effect......is just insulting and shows no thought to making them think about how they're being perceived.....he just mouths off

You can bet your boots he wouldn't.    Samantha would be ripped to shreds for what he's doing.   (That said, I still believe he's been instructed on what to do)

I've got to agree that the general perception of Sam would change from 'cheeky imp' to 'cunning minx' had he been female.

But he was the same in the auditions, Kaffy.

Josie has been told by BB not to mention what he said to the woman with one leg, in the auditions - Asking her why she bothered with make-up and getting dressed up, when she only had one leg.

As spongey said, his friends admitted that he is like that all the time and even calls their girlfriends insulting names.

OMG Bliz, did he really say that and did BB really silence her?

Really?    I guess I was thinking they all SAY they're going to stir things up, then they go in and act like pussycats.    Well.. in that case I'll stand by my gut feeling on him.   He's a nasty, gobby little knob.

Well, we only have Josie's word for it, but she said to John James, yesterday, that BB had asked her not to mention it again, as it happened during the audition process.

He shouted her down, during the HL show, when she wanted to list all the nasty things he had said!

Winding people up and stirring things up a bit is one thing, but when it starts to get personal and nasty - that's when you have to draw the line.  Having said that, I am enjoying his wind-ups and the stirring he is doing.

Exactly Blizzie.we only have Josies word for it atm,and if BB asked her not to mention it again and she did spell it all out again was she punished for rule breaking?....If he did say that he's a right tactless git that needs a severe kick in the butt for it but I'd imagine if it did happen as Josie says the girl in question would/will come forward and verify her allegation,I know I would.

I agree in a way Kaffy, but in a way that BB probably encouraged him to live up to how he is rather than tone it down. I think that he is an avid fm somewhere, decided what he thought of the hms before he went in and has gone in to tell 'em what he thinks, almost as if he were a fm rather than a hm. He knows who is particularly popular on the outside and who he liked and disliked as a viewer/ fm and so far has been careful to not have a go at any of the 'favourites'......Oh and in the process he's making himself v popular with the viewers, many who are celebrating him saying what they think/ getting back at hms they're aggrieved at for their 'wrongs.' It particularly interests me that so many Ben fans are congratulating him/his behaviour , when he really couldn't be more different to him, (apart from replicating Ben's complaint about the noise in the bedroom and him not being able to sleep).....  A  v  v clever game by him me thinks and if he keeps on playing it, whilst at the same time putting his all into the tasks etc. he may well win it, or at least get to the final, yeah no doubt he'll get plenty of nominations, but I can't see him being voted out too soon. (Just imho of course)

Really? Never!!!

Wonders whether to create alternative id

A few of the other HMs who were in lock down with him confirmed the story on the night that Sam didn't get in the house. Also the HMs who came in with him said he had said something to Ife that night that everybody was really annoyed with. The other HMs who didn't get in the house that night all seemed to confirm that Sam was not a pleasant person on BBLB the next day and none of them were surprised that the HMs didn't pick him.

Really? Can you provide any evidence to support this claim? 
Transcripts etc?

Mario, Dave and Josie were all in lockdown together and they were all talking about it on the night Sam didn't get in the house. Sorry I am not the kind of sad viewer that trawls through or keeps every conversation they have.

 

It's not necessarily "sad" though is it? Considering it's a valid method of proof. 

But I don't need to prove anything. I know what I heard on the night Sam didn't get in and the HMs were talking about him and discussing the story of the girl with one leg and exactly what he said to her. I have no axes to grind with any HM so there would be very little point in me lying.

If you're making potentially serious assertions, as a matter of "fact" - it's usually best to provide some sort of tangible material to support it - this tends to make your claim, more convincing. Otherwise, we might aswell believe any old thing put "out there".

We've seen him in action, we've heard what the HMs who were in lockdown with him said, and we've seen his friends describe his behaviour, on BBLB.

It's hard not to believe he is capable of saying something like that.

I wrote what I heard on that night. If you don't believe it or like it that's your problem not mine. The story was posted elsewhere by others and if your that desperate for confirmation please feel free to knock yourself out and find it. I won't stop you

*Sighs* 

"Grins" 

You see... that's the bit I have trouble with.  How does that irritating little twonk have friends?

I think he's a horrible little specimen, but I am loving the way he's winding them up and shaking them out of their complacency. That may pall in a week or so however and when he goes I won't be bothered

That's exactly how I feel about him Kaytee.   Two weeks tops and he'll be as boring as the rest of them.

bit of a novelty at the moment, but once that wears off he'll be out on his ear and good riddance to him