I'll not be contributing to this thread again. I don't normally get into this sort of stuff, but this community has been important to me over the years I've been part of it.....I don't know if it still is, but I did think it was a discussion worth having.
< *one for the road*
You're a bit late to the party if you've never seen anyone else outed Hoochie.
Been going on since year dot.
You're a bit late to the party if you've never seen anyone else outed Hoochie.
Been going on since year dot.
You are not wrong there Velvet!!!
I'll not be contributing to this thread again. I don't normally get into this sort of stuff, but this community has been important to me over the years I've been part of it.....I don't know if it still is, but I did think it was a discussion worth having.
< *one for the road*
Hoochie, battles are there to be fought by those that want to fight......there are instigators, agitators, peacemakers, rule makers, the battles will go on....you have stood up and said how you feel.......if the battle continues, you have tried your best to peace make.....
Just post and enjoy like you used to xxxxxxxxxxxx
Like Hoochie, this is my last contribution to the thread.
Regarding "free speech" and how we should be allowed to express opinions without the mods 'interfering;' I do agree that we should be allowed views about anything, and we don't all have to agree. And everyone is entitled to have differing views about politics and religion and varying music tastes and whatever film actors they think are crap, whatever celebs they think are dicks, and so on, and I have seen plenty of discussions here which have gone fine, even when people have disageed passionately. Occasionally it gets a bit heated, and usually someone puts the 'agree to differ' phrase in; which is wise, because it stops the argument there without anyone backing down.
However, there is a difference between having 'free speech,' and people systematically attacking other posters, to the point where they feel like leaving the forum, (and people HAVE left, and HAVE been upset to the point where they WANT to leave just lately, and frankly, it's not on...) I have to say that I am pleased to see that many people on this thread seem to have a similar opinion; that the constant personal attacks on people and the underhand digs are unnacceptable. "FREE SPEECH" is fine, "PERSONAL ATTACKS" and having personal digs at people because they disagreed with you recently or sometime in the past, (or you just plain and simple dislike them,) is not acceptable...
Nobody should feel like they want to leave this forum because of constant sniping and digs, and although this doesn't happen 'all the time,' they seem to never stop, and they often seem to just come out of the blue... It's a horrible feeling to come on here, and post something which may be an opinion that goes against one of the seasoned members on here, or just a general view, and wonder if you're going to come back to the usual accusatory comments.
i know I am far from perfect, and have had some 'out-there' views in the past that have pissed people off, but just disagreeing with the post is sufficient; there is no need to take potshots. Like I said, I am not perfect, and have made some snide comments in the past, but to be honest it's often because I am on the attack after feeling 'got at' myself. I feel that I have had quite a lot of bashing on here at times, and I am pretty sure I have hardly ever started it! (LOL I am soooo perfect!). 
Seriously, I am not blaming anyone else over and above myself, and I KNOW I am annoying sometimes; but I have occasionally felt like I am being attacked for no reason, other than someone just dislikes me, and I have occasionally felt 'ganged up on.' Maybe it wasnt the intention, but I have felt like that and have felt like leaving at times.... As Veggieburger said, someone will say something and then a couple of other people will join in, (as they are just there at the time,) and it sews the seeds of doubt in peoples' minds, and they think there's 'no smoke without fire' and so on...
So I am very very glad that this has happened, because it seems that the mods are not going to accept this personal bashing and 'extra username' stuff any longer. I certainly won't be making any uncalled-for snidey remarks any more, and I hope others offer the same courtesy... I just hope that people think before they post now, and sit and think about how that other person may feel, to come on here and not know if they are going to be 'got at.' Like I said, it is an unpleasant feeling to have to constantly tolerate this, and it's only the fact that most people here are really nice, and its just the odd three or four people, that keeps me here.
I do hope Jonesey comes back, as I think that he will probably not have so much hassle on here now, and also I must admit that I wish the poster in question who apparently incorrectly named the wrong person would come back though, because I do actually quite like her, and we have all said and sone things on here we probably shouldn't have...So if you're reading this; come back!
Like I said, that is all from me on this thread... I just want to say one final thing: if I feel 'got at' again and feel it's uncalled for, I won't retaliate on the board, and I don't think anyone else should either, because I think some people do it to just bait people... If anyone is unhappy for any reason, contact the mods. Saves it getting into a forum war, and it saves you giving people what they want, for you to take the bait and get yourself banned.
So that's it from me on this thread, and all I wanted to say. Have a good day everyone and I hope we can all try to be friends on here now... or if not, just post around each other and not stoop to snide and underhand digs.. (And I include myself here!)
(((HUGS))) for everyone...
Strikes me the report button [which I hate, sorry Lori, cos it smacks of running to teacher instead of being adult enough to sort stuff out without intervention 
] should maybe be replaced with an ignore button instead... that way if FM's old, new or returning get your goat you don't have to read them, seems without that ignore button people can't seem to self edit and bypass said annoying FM(s), well annoying to them anyway.. 
I do find it funny, not in a haha, way that in parts of this discussion about not talking about a FM, who deregged cos of being talked about when they weren't there, those talking mentioned another FM who also wasn't here or at least wasn't in this thread who had made a mistake about the first FM.... yet peeps weren't told to not mention the second one who also wasn't there either ... [keep with me it does make sense. .in my head anyway ]
what I am trying to say is if you are going to get upset about what started all this off i.e. talking about somebody who isn't there, surely you shouldn't then bring in another FM into this discussion, who also wasn't here to defend themselves, when you talked about them for not apologising for the initial mistake they made that started all this off . .you need to be consistent really.. you can't have a rule for one FM but not apply it to others.. or maybe you can 
.
i know what I am trying to say but I may have confused you all even more.. ..and I know what Lori was trying to say too ... just sometimes tis hard to not talk about people who aren;t here as was seen in the later part of this thread.. if tis relevant to the discussion.. ..
anyway Jonesy will be back in another form... am pretty sure of it.. . 
still think the ignore button is the most needed thing here tho... .non of us are perfect and all have bad days .. been there myself and maybe on those bad days sitting on our hands doesn't always work..
Olly. as far asI understood it we weren't told not to mention Jonesey or any other FM. What we were told was not to go on about whether Jonsey had been any other former FM.
However,(general observation), IMO, it was not good form for any other FM who was in THAT thread to be named, as that could irrationally predjudice people against them. People who didn't see the thread and know who was there and who said what.
The only time I saw the fm who wrongly id'd the OP of that thread being named in here was a couple of posts ago. 
I referred to them to illustrate the point about getting it wrong but didn't name them and I thought that was what everyone else had done
One day, the dog named John walked over the street. Suddenly, a pink car with three legs ran over the street. It stopped and asked for the 5`th session of Friends, but John told that it wasn`t made yet.The car was angry, and spitted cacodemons out his two mouths.The cacodemons duplicated each other, and ate up all the Scooby-snacks. The old lady shouted at Pikachu, and fired a missile at him. Pikachu evolved into Weedle, and throwed a
burning banana at the car. The banana got angry, and tried to rule the world. John told the banana that MTV ruled the world, and ate him. The banana tasted old shoes, wich was not so weird, because it was a super sayajin. The green pig with the bell, ran towards the car, and exploded like a sheep.Suddenly, the car started an earthquake, and the whole world turned
into a ice cream. The orcs started an revenge on Donald Duck, and turned him to a pink bear. The old lady advanced into level 10, and turned into a Fire Demon. The fire demon burned down all mushrooms, (which was the houses on the planet) and fried all flying carrots.
I Like Monkeys The pet store was selling them for 5ÂĒ a piece. I thought that odd since they were normally a couple thousand each. I decided not to look a gift horse in the mouth. I bought 200. I like monkeys. I took my 200 monkeys home. I have a big car. I let one drive. His name was Sigmund. He was retarded. In fact, none of them were really bright. They kept punching themselves in their genitals. I laughed. Then they punched my genitals. I stopped laughing. I herded them into my room. They didn't adapt very well to their new environment. They would screech, hurl themselves off of the couch at high speeds and slam into the wall. Although humorous at first, the spectacle lost its novelty halfway into its third hour. Two hours later I found out why all the monkeys were so inexpensive: they all died. No apparent reason. They all just sorta' dropped dead. Kinda' like when you buy a goldfish and it dies five hours later. Damn cheap monkeys.
I didn't know what to do. There were 200 dead monkeys lying all over my room, on the bed, in the dresser, hanging from my bookcase. It looked like I had 200 throw rugs. I tried to flush one down the toilet. It didn't work. It got stuck. Then I had one dead, wet monkey and 199 dead, dry monkeys. I tried pretending that they were just stuffed animals. That worked for a while, that is until they began to decompose. It started to smell real bad. I had to pee but there was a dead monkey in the toilet and I didn't want to call the plumber. I was embarrassed.
I tried to slow down the decomposition by freezing them. Unfortunately there was only enough room for two monkeys at a time so I had to change them every 30 seconds. I also had to eat all the food in the freezer so it didn't all go bad.
I tried burning them. Little did I know my bed was flammable. I had to extinguish the fire. Then I had one dead, wet monkey in my toilet, two dead, frozen monkeys in my freezer, and 197 dead, charred monkeys in a pile on my bed. The odor wasn't improving.
I became agitated at my inability to dispose of my monkeys and to use the bathroom. I severely beat one of my monkeys. I felt better.
I tried throwing them way but the garbage man said that the city wasn't allowed to dispose of charred primates. I told him that I had a wet one. He couldn't take that one either. I didn't bother asking about the frozen ones.
I finally arrived at a solution. I gave them out as Christmas gifts. My friends didn't know quite what to say. They pretended that they like them but I could tell they were lying. Ingrates. So I punched them in the genitals I Like Monkeys
Momentarily, sanity struck their genitalia. The fog thickened and was eaten by Batman, who was holding a bat.The bat was peeing white coffee for Batman's breakfast party. For years he wept, until he drowned himself. A human whale can't possibly exist without dragon whales that spit rockets. So together, they jumped with joy and conquered the right to disappear.
Disappearing to another guy's head, which provided fertile land, bad headaches altogether to spur bananas as a religion for him to declare holy war upon ketchup spiders that created webs on cheeseburger whales. McDonald's sued them and lost, because Burger King bailed the spiders so they could poo holograms to reach the sandwich once the fallout ended.
One day, a man was walking down the road when he heard a group of old people continuously chanting, "Thirteen, Thirteen, Thirteen, Thirteen..." Curious, the man walked toward a high wooden fence where the noise seemed to be coming from.The fence was too high to peek over so he found a hole in the fence. When he looked through the hole to see what was all the commotion, "POKE!"The man staggered backwards as he held his poked eye and the chanting continued, "Fourteen, Fourteen, Fourteen..."
I saw this wool ice cream truck, a chef, and a piece of Pluto. The guys that owned the ice cream truck stole the piece of Pluto from the pastry chef who obtained it from the flying elephant. The flying elephant got it from a sumo wrestler who obtained it in the sumo championship on Saturn. They went to Saturn because Jupiter was full of mutant beavcoons. The beavcoons were from Mars where the bubbly bubbles, an ancient gang that was buried in Camelot lived. The bubbly bubbles came back after the clowns resurrected him in an ancient burial spell of magicalness. Then the corndog from Venus lead an attack of canoes onto the Russians who responded by taking away McDonalds from China. Since China didnât have anymore McDonalds they decided to buy a Pizza hut. But alas the Pizza hut was then stolen by a talking elephant from India. The elephant was The Guruâs and he lived at the Ashram in Los Angeles. The elephant had a pig friend who taught maths. The pig exploded one day and left the whole world wondering. Since the pig exploded the King pig blamed the giants. Since the giants hated being blamed they lead an attack on the King and since they were of course much bigger they were victorious.After the giants took control of Greenland they started fighting the Vikings from Iceland. The opponents were equally matched so they ended up destroying each other and they became extinct. Then the gorillas stole Honda Trail 70âs from Tony Soprano the lead gangster from Italy.
Tony Soprano actually got the Hondasâ from India anyhow back to the gorillas. The gorillas started causing a ruckus in The Big Apple, actually a big apple, where they ran over Billy Joe and Eileen. Since the football players were chasing them the gorillas hopped into the giant peach with James who was escaping his evil parents.
This will be my final post on this subject 
......................................
this thread needs to lighten up
zazz, the spelling, grammar and punctuation in that post is down right awful. D-
Please redo.
zazz, the spelling, grammar and punctuation in that post is down right awful. D-
Please redo.
I was just so emotional when I typed it!! 
And THAT is my last post in this thread!!
*leaves**
One day, the dog named John walked over the street. Suddenly, a pink car with three legs ran over the street. It stopped and asked for the 5`th session of Friends, but John told that it wasn`t made yet.The car was angry, and spitted cacodemons out his two mouths.The cacodemons duplicated each other, and ate up all the Scooby-snacks. The old lady shouted at Pikachu, and fired a missile at him. Pikachu evolved into Weedle, and throwed a
burning banana at the car. The banana got angry, and tried to rule the world. John told the banana that MTV ruled the world, and ate him. The banana tasted old shoes, wich was not so weird, because it was a super sayajin. The green pig with the bell, ran towards the car, and exploded like a sheep.Suddenly, the car started an earthquake, and the whole world turned
into a ice cream. The orcs started an revenge on Donald Duck, and turned him to a pink bear. The old lady advanced into level 10, and turned into a Fire Demon. The fire demon burned down all mushrooms, (which was the houses on the planet) and fried all flying carrots.
I Like Monkeys The pet store was selling them for 5ÂĒ a piece. I thought that odd since they were normally a couple thousand each. I decided not to look a gift horse in the mouth. I bought 200. I like monkeys. I took my 200 monkeys home. I have a big car. I let one drive. His name was Sigmund. He was retarded. In fact, none of them were really bright. They kept punching themselves in their genitals. I laughed. Then they punched my genitals. I stopped laughing. I herded them into my room. They didn't adapt very well to their new environment. They would screech, hurl themselves off of the couch at high speeds and slam into the wall. Although humorous at first, the spectacle lost its novelty halfway into its third hour. Two hours later I found out why all the monkeys were so inexpensive: they all died. No apparent reason. They all just sorta' dropped dead. Kinda' like when you buy a goldfish and it dies five hours later. Damn cheap monkeys.
I didn't know what to do. There were 200 dead monkeys lying all over my room, on the bed, in the dresser, hanging from my bookcase. It looked like I had 200 throw rugs. I tried to flush one down the toilet. It didn't work. It got stuck. Then I had one dead, wet monkey and 199 dead, dry monkeys. I tried pretending that they were just stuffed animals. That worked for a while, that is until they began to decompose. It started to smell real bad. I had to pee but there was a dead monkey in the toilet and I didn't want to call the plumber. I was embarrassed.
I tried to slow down the decomposition by freezing them. Unfortunately there was only enough room for two monkeys at a time so I had to change them every 30 seconds. I also had to eat all the food in the freezer so it didn't all go bad.
I tried burning them. Little did I know my bed was flammable. I had to extinguish the fire. Then I had one dead, wet monkey in my toilet, two dead, frozen monkeys in my freezer, and 197 dead, charred monkeys in a pile on my bed. The odor wasn't improving.
I became agitated at my inability to dispose of my monkeys and to use the bathroom. I severely beat one of my monkeys. I felt better.
I tried throwing them way but the garbage man said that the city wasn't allowed to dispose of charred primates. I told him that I had a wet one. He couldn't take that one either. I didn't bother asking about the frozen ones.
I finally arrived at a solution. I gave them out as Christmas gifts. My friends didn't know quite what to say. They pretended that they like them but I could tell they were lying. Ingrates. So I punched them in the genitals I Like Monkeys
Momentarily, sanity struck their genitalia. The fog thickened and was eaten by Batman, who was holding a bat.The bat was peeing white coffee for Batman's breakfast party. For years he wept, until he drowned himself. A human whale can't possibly exist without dragon whales that spit rockets. So together, they jumped with joy and conquered the right to disappear.
Disappearing to another guy's head, which provided fertile land, bad headaches altogether to spur bananas as a religion for him to declare holy war upon ketchup spiders that created webs on cheeseburger whales. McDonald's sued them and lost, because Burger King bailed the spiders so they could poo holograms to reach the sandwich once the fallout ended.
One day, a man was walking down the road when he heard a group of old people continuously chanting, "Thirteen, Thirteen, Thirteen, Thirteen..." Curious, the man walked toward a high wooden fence where the noise seemed to be coming from.The fence was too high to peek over so he found a hole in the fence. When he looked through the hole to see what was all the commotion, "POKE!"The man staggered backwards as he held his poked eye and the chanting continued, "Fourteen, Fourteen, Fourteen..."
I saw this wool ice cream truck, a chef, and a piece of Pluto. The guys that owned the ice cream truck stole the piece of Pluto from the pastry chef who obtained it from the flying elephant. The flying elephant got it from a sumo wrestler who obtained it in the sumo championship on Saturn. They went to Saturn because Jupiter was full of mutant beavcoons. The beavcoons were from Mars where the bubbly bubbles, an ancient gang that was buried in Camelot lived. The bubbly bubbles came back after the clowns resurrected him in an ancient burial spell of magicalness. Then the corndog from Venus lead an attack of canoes onto the Russians who responded by taking away McDonalds from China. Since China didnât have anymore McDonalds they decided to buy a Pizza hut. But alas the Pizza hut was then stolen by a talking elephant from India. The elephant was The Guruâs and he lived at the Ashram in Los Angeles. The elephant had a pig friend who taught maths. The pig exploded one day and left the whole world wondering. Since the pig exploded the King pig blamed the giants. Since the giants hated being blamed they lead an attack on the King and since they were of course much bigger they were victorious.After the giants took control of Greenland they started fighting the Vikings from Iceland. The opponents were equally matched so they ended up destroying each other and they became extinct. Then the gorillas stole Honda Trail 70âs from Tony Soprano the lead gangster from Italy.
Tony Soprano actually got the Hondasâ from India anyhow back to the gorillas. The gorillas started causing a ruckus in The Big Apple, actually a big apple, where they ran over Billy Joe and Eileen. Since the football players were chasing them the gorillas hopped into the giant peach with James who was escaping his evil parents.
This will be my final post on this subject ......................................
this thread needs to lighten up
^^^^^ this 
see guys I wasn't saying what I said as having a go I was just saying it's not always easy to abide by rules. . or to set specific rules for people to follow..
and yeah I know the rule was not to speculate about who was whom in a previous life but also there was discussion about not talking about people who aren't here and how it must feel when they do turn up to see themselves talked about and how upsetting it was to some. .and yeah they weren't mentioned til a few posts ago but am pretty sure most knew who it was..
the point was really to point out a few inconsistencies that are understandable in a way but also to say you [not anyone in particular] can't get all upset about one thing then go off and kinda do something similar.. just maybe people get too emotional sometimes and to try to put rules in place to cover everything is pretty hard to do..
in most cases, if not all, I think the Mods deal with stuff on a thread by thread basis.. but it can go awry occasionally.. . this is a forum that runs smoothly for most of the time but like in any social community will have it's ups and downs and for everything we may criticise another for doing we are also probably guilty of having done similar ourselves even if we don't always see it that way..
I wish my brain worked better so I could get out exactly what I mean. .I hate this getting old thing
One day, the dog named John walked over the street. Suddenly, a pink car with three legs ran over the street. It stopped and asked for the 5`th session of Friends, but John told that it wasn`t made yet.The car was angry, and spitted cacodemons out his two mouths.The cacodemons duplicated each other, and ate up all the Scooby-snacks. The old lady shouted at Pikachu, and fired a missile at him. Pikachu evolved into Weedle, and throwed a
burning banana at the car. The banana got angry, and tried to rule the world. John told the banana that MTV ruled the world, and ate him. The banana tasted old shoes, wich was not so weird, because it was a super sayajin. The green pig with the bell, ran towards the car, and exploded like a sheep.Suddenly, the car started an earthquake, and the whole world turned
into a ice cream. The orcs started an revenge on Donald Duck, and turned him to a pink bear. The old lady advanced into level 10, and turned into a Fire Demon. The fire demon burned down all mushrooms, (which was the houses on the planet) and fried all flying carrots.
I Like Monkeys The pet store was selling them for 5ÂĒ a piece. I thought that odd since they were normally a couple thousand each. I decided not to look a gift horse in the mouth. I bought 200. I like monkeys. I took my 200 monkeys home. I have a big car. I let one drive. His name was Sigmund. He was retarded. In fact, none of them were really bright. They kept punching themselves in their genitals. I laughed. Then they punched my genitals. I stopped laughing. I herded them into my room. They didn't adapt very well to their new environment. They would screech, hurl themselves off of the couch at high speeds and slam into the wall. Although humorous at first, the spectacle lost its novelty halfway into its third hour. Two hours later I found out why all the monkeys were so inexpensive: they all died. No apparent reason. They all just sorta' dropped dead. Kinda' like when you buy a goldfish and it dies five hours later. Damn cheap monkeys.
I didn't know what to do. There were 200 dead monkeys lying all over my room, on the bed, in the dresser, hanging from my bookcase. It looked like I had 200 throw rugs. I tried to flush one down the toilet. It didn't work. It got stuck. Then I had one dead, wet monkey and 199 dead, dry monkeys. I tried pretending that they were just stuffed animals. That worked for a while, that is until they began to decompose. It started to smell real bad. I had to pee but there was a dead monkey in the toilet and I didn't want to call the plumber. I was embarrassed.
I tried to slow down the decomposition by freezing them. Unfortunately there was only enough room for two monkeys at a time so I had to change them every 30 seconds. I also had to eat all the food in the freezer so it didn't all go bad.
I tried burning them. Little did I know my bed was flammable. I had to extinguish the fire. Then I had one dead, wet monkey in my toilet, two dead, frozen monkeys in my freezer, and 197 dead, charred monkeys in a pile on my bed. The odor wasn't improving.
I became agitated at my inability to dispose of my monkeys and to use the bathroom. I severely beat one of my monkeys. I felt better.
I tried throwing them way but the garbage man said that the city wasn't allowed to dispose of charred primates. I told him that I had a wet one. He couldn't take that one either. I didn't bother asking about the frozen ones.
I finally arrived at a solution. I gave them out as Christmas gifts. My friends didn't know quite what to say. They pretended that they like them but I could tell they were lying. Ingrates. So I punched them in the genitals I Like Monkeys
Momentarily, sanity struck their genitalia. The fog thickened and was eaten by Batman, who was holding a bat.The bat was peeing white coffee for Batman's breakfast party. For years he wept, until he drowned himself. A human whale can't possibly exist without dragon whales that spit rockets. So together, they jumped with joy and conquered the right to disappear.
Disappearing to another guy's head, which provided fertile land, bad headaches altogether to spur bananas as a religion for him to declare holy war upon ketchup spiders that created webs on cheeseburger whales. McDonald's sued them and lost, because Burger King bailed the spiders so they could poo holograms to reach the sandwich once the fallout ended.
One day, a man was walking down the road when he heard a group of old people continuously chanting, "Thirteen, Thirteen, Thirteen, Thirteen..." Curious, the man walked toward a high wooden fence where the noise seemed to be coming from.The fence was too high to peek over so he found a hole in the fence. When he looked through the hole to see what was all the commotion, "POKE!"The man staggered backwards as he held his poked eye and the chanting continued, "Fourteen, Fourteen, Fourteen..."
I saw this wool ice cream truck, a chef, and a piece of Pluto. The guys that owned the ice cream truck stole the piece of Pluto from the pastry chef who obtained it from the flying elephant. The flying elephant got it from a sumo wrestler who obtained it in the sumo championship on Saturn. They went to Saturn because Jupiter was full of mutant beavcoons. The beavcoons were from Mars where the bubbly bubbles, an ancient gang that was buried in Camelot lived. The bubbly bubbles came back after the clowns resurrected him in an ancient burial spell of magicalness. Then the corndog from Venus lead an attack of canoes onto the Russians who responded by taking away McDonalds from China. Since China didnât have anymore McDonalds they decided to buy a Pizza hut. But alas the Pizza hut was then stolen by a talking elephant from India. The elephant was The Guruâs and he lived at the Ashram in Los Angeles. The elephant had a pig friend who taught maths. The pig exploded one day and left the whole world wondering. Since the pig exploded the King pig blamed the giants. Since the giants hated being blamed they lead an attack on the King and since they were of course much bigger they were victorious.After the giants took control of Greenland they started fighting the Vikings from Iceland. The opponents were equally matched so they ended up destroying each other and they became extinct. Then the gorillas stole Honda Trail 70âs from Tony Soprano the lead gangster from Italy.
Tony Soprano actually got the Hondasâ from India anyhow back to the gorillas. The gorillas started causing a ruckus in The Big Apple, actually a big apple, where they ran over Billy Joe and Eileen. Since the football players were chasing them the gorillas hopped into the giant peach with James who was escaping his evil parents.
This will be my final post on this subject ......................................
this thread needs to lighten up
^^^^^ this
Well, thanks, Gyps! I just had to say it, and now I am finished here, this is my last post!!
The only time I saw the fm who wrongly id'd the OP of that thread being named in here was a couple of posts ago.
I referred to them to illustrate the point about getting it wrong but didn't name them and I thought that was what everyone else had done
It wasn't you vegie, but their name was mentioned. Maybe it only seemed obvious to me as I was in and read the whole of THAT thread. 
Sorry zazz, I only managed the first paragraph of that post, but I got the gist.
Sorry zazz, I only managed the first paragraph of that post, but I got the gist.
^ this is not really me back in this thread BTW!
What a poisoned little thread. Five people have gone to the bother of pressing the 'like' button, just by way of illustrating how they thrive on conflict. (What, I ask, does THAT say about our forum?) For some posts, I would have worn my finger out if we had the facility of a button such as this:
Strikes me the report button [which I hate, sorry Lori, cos it smacks of running to teacher instead of being adult enough to sort stuff out without intervention ] should maybe be replaced with an ignore button instead... that way if FM's old, new or returning get your goat you don't have to read them, seems without that ignore button people can't seem to self edit and bypass said annoying FM(s), well annoying to them anyway..
I do find it funny, not in a haha, way that in parts of this discussion about not talking about a FM, who deregged cos of being talked about when they weren't there, those talking mentioned another FM who also wasn't here or at least wasn't in this thread who had made a mistake about the first FM.... yet peeps weren't told to not mention the second one who also wasn't there either ... [keep with me it does make sense. .in my head anyway ]
what I am trying to say is if you are going to get upset about what started all this off i.e. talking about somebody who isn't there, surely you shouldn't then bring in another FM into this discussion, who also wasn't here to defend themselves, when you talked about them for not apologising for the initial mistake they made that started all this off . .you need to be consistent really.. you can't have a rule for one FM but not apply it to others.. or maybe you can .
i know what I am trying to say but I may have confused you all even more.. ..and I know what Lori was trying to say too ... just sometimes tis hard to not talk about people who aren;t here as was seen in the later part of this thread.. if tis relevant to the discussion.. ..
anyway Jonesy will be back in another form... am pretty sure of it.. .
still think the ignore button is the most needed thing here tho... .non of us are perfect and all have bad days .. been there myself and maybe on those bad days sitting on our hands doesn't always work..
Bravo. Understood every word.
I agree, regarding the 'ignore button' too. Especially where the imbecilic are concerned. Because it seems as if their puerility goes unchallenged - unlike their mentality.
This type of individual clearly struggles to string a sentence together, but has the audaciousness to gatecrash adult debate/discussion; by goading and baiting through name-calling and sarcasm in order to provoke a reaction from their recipient. I just ignore 'em anyway, and it's easier for me to imagine them as being kept by an owner of some sort, and they now need a nap, after being rolled in sawdust and hosed down, or whatever it is their keeper does.
And TBF, I don't think the FM who initially named the poster in question should be forced to apologise, until anyone can actually prove or disprove whether the FM was in the wrong or not, via "incontrovertible proof"......
After all, "posting styles" or "intuition" or "just knowing" just won't cut it.
What a poisoned little thread. Five people have gone to the bother of pressing the 'like' button, just by way of illustrating how they thrive on conflict. (What, I ask, does THAT say about our forum?) For some posts, I would have worn my finger out if we had the facility of a button such as this:
Well said Triggs 
see I see this thread as a useful discussion arena... but ho hum what is useful to some is bullshit to others I suppose
see I see this thread as a useful discussion arena... but ho hum what is useful to some is bullshit to others I suppose
I am absolutely all for discussion of the 'useful' variety. It is just the prevalence of the double-standard that grates. My finger wouldn't have hovered ANYWHERE NEAR the bullshit button with any of your posts 
I particularly agreed with this one:
"what I am trying to say is if you are going to get upset about what started all this off i.e. talking about somebody who isn't there, surely you shouldn't then bring in another FM into this discussion, who also wasn't here to defend themselves, when you talked about them for not apologising for the initial mistake they made that started all this off . .you need to be consistent really.. you can't have a rule for one FM but not apply it to others"
I'm surely allowed an opinion, even if there is much mental toying with the issue of expressing it.
of course you;re allowed an opinion, that's why I like this thread,[ tho I never went near a like button cos I forget tis even there anyway,] everybody has been able to give their thoughts without it descending into mayhem . .which I think is a good thing
And TBF, I don't think the FM who initially named the poster in question should be forced to apologise, until anyone can actually prove or disprove whether the FM was in the wrong or not, via "incontrovertible proof"......
After all, "posting styles" or "intuition" or "just knowing" just won't cut it.
I agree The whiter than white *elitists* have gone OTT in this thread and it sure is hypocritical.
That's okay Lori. I'll control these lot in your absence
That's okay Lori. I'll control these lot in your absence
chucks squishy tomato at Rawky
Sends Roxan to the naughty step
That's okay Lori. I'll control these lot in your absence
Like you did in the 'Insults' thread?
How dare you>>>>>>>(ponts at offender) say that about......Oh I can't be bothered....I'm off home!
My sincere apologies to you Jonesey for "outing" you. I`m sorry.
I`ve seen it done to you on here many times ( and only a few days before this happened) and others too and I`ve never joined that pack. - ever.
I feel I must explain this to the forum.
When I saw THAT thread and the link to a forum. I harked back to last year when Jonesey was the only one posting links on here to join a new forum. Join me, this place is crap... kinda thing
I found it rude, told him so, as did many others.
He then pm`d lots us with the a link and got almost the same responses.
Because BB is about to start again, I genuinely thought it was Jonesey up to his shenanigins again. It seems I was wrong. I thought I was supporting the forum. I shouldn`t have lost the plot, I did, and for that, I do apologise.
Getting back to THAT thread. I don`t know what went on after I left. Did it get particularly nasty to cause Lori to start this thread? I don`t know. I was gone at the top part of page 2. I didn`t see any posts about "several fm`s telling me time and time and again I was wrong" If I was there I would have taken heed. Therefore, nor did I see anything about the OP being on the shippy thing. And... I did NOT "Iight a blue touch paper and scuttle off" as said by yorky pud.
It`s not my style.
I left because my son came home earlier than expected for his birthday party.
I came back to THAT thread and it was gone and saw this thread. It took me a while to respond - I couldn`t quite take it in.
I must say, I`m astonished that a Lori didn`t pm me or anyone else on there (who she decided may have offended) with a warning or even a ban.
She, instead decides to start a thread about it.
Open discussion - good.
Some people, as Triggs said, have relished in the conflict of this thread - not so good.
Yet, it`s allowed, if it suits.
I, like Col, am finding the moderation, while probably with the best of intentions... interfering.
Pm us, ban us, don`t mix it.
oh god not rocky poo in charge
Scotty
oh god not rocky poo in charge
Damn straight!
Scotty
oh god not rocky poo in charge
Damn straight!
do you not mean 'Damn Right'?
Scotty . You've taken a bashing - right or wrong as you say lots have done it before and it has been far nastier. I'm not sure deleting a thread and then starting one to discuss it is a positive thing TBH. There are very, very few in here who are 'totally without sin'. I think this has put you in a horrible position - I'm glad you came in to clear it up - it's easy to post and then leave for a while to see that things have blown up - the timing and written word often make things look far worse than they are.
Well done for coming back and apologising - it takes a lot to do that. I missed your posts while you were gone - it's just far too easy to be misunderstood on here sometimes.
Scotty, I had no idea what this thread was about, who started what, what kicked it off. Im sure there are lots like me. It will all be forgotten about in a couple of days and half of us will be none the wiser.
there are far more important issues in the world like, rocky poo being left in charge of this forum for one people unite!!!!!!! this atrocity cannot go unchallenged!
Storm in a tea cup grasped by the moral high ground.
What a poisoned little thread. Five people have gone to the bother of pressing the 'like' button, just by way of illustrating how they thrive on conflict. (What, I ask, does THAT say about our forum?) For some posts, I would have worn my finger out if we had the facility of a button such as this:
I will own up to pressing the like button. But can I just say I pressed it at the very beginning of this thread and was actually liking what Lori said and not the posts that appeared after. When I pressed it only 3 or 4 people had replied to this thread and the other 4 likes were already there.
see I see this thread as a useful discussion arena... but ho hum what is useful to some is bullshit to others I suppose
Yes, Indeed
