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Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Veggieburger:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by sparkles:

Can you explain what you mean by that Cologne?    (The underlined comments...) 

Your history.

Col, this is the sort of thing that Lori is talking about I think. It's certainly about the point I was making earlier.

I have no idea if Sparkles was ever anyone else on here or C4, pretty much don't care either tbh as I've never ever seen Sparkles being unpleasant or making trouble.

But I have seen her (I'm assuming Sparkles is female) being accused several times of being someone else with no shred of proof and once the finger pointing starts then it snowballs and some people will say there's no smoke without fire. I've even seen several posts accusing her and cupcake (another fm that I've never seen being anything but pleasant) of being the same person.

I get that there are previous fms (whether banned or not) who some people can't stand. There's one that I would cross the street to avoid.

But you know what? If a new fm is one that has been banned or caused aggro before then it won't be long until they do it again - some people just can't help themselves.

Until then I reckon we should give any newbie the benefit of the doubt

 

Neither do I and never intended to aim at any FM personally. I just don't like Lori's interference when there's a row on here. What's wrong with that? We've had rows for years and years. Why should somebody interfere with that unless it gets nasty? We used to think this forum had better moderation than C4, but at least they let us have a good argument without patronising us.

 

No they'd just ban us half way through and delete the thread....there was no arguement Col just alot of accusing without the person there to defend themselves, who then saw what was said and deregged....

stonks
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Veggieburger:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by sparkles:

Can you explain what you mean by that Cologne?    (The underlined comments...) 

Your history.

Col, this is the sort of thing that Lori is talking about I think. It's certainly about the point I was making earlier.

I have no idea if Sparkles was ever anyone else on here or C4, pretty much don't care either tbh as I've never ever seen Sparkles being unpleasant or making trouble.

But I have seen her (I'm assuming Sparkles is female) being accused several times of being someone else with no shred of proof and once the finger pointing starts then it snowballs and some people will say there's no smoke without fire. I've even seen several posts accusing her and cupcake (another fm that I've never seen being anything but pleasant) of being the same person.

I get that there are previous fms (whether banned or not) who some people can't stand. There's one that I would cross the street to avoid.

But you know what? If a new fm is one that has been banned or caused aggro before then it won't be long until they do it again - some people just can't help themselves.

Until then I reckon we should give any newbie the benefit of the doubt

 

Neither do I and never intended to aim at any FM personally. I just don't like Lori's interference when there's a row on here. What's wrong with that? We've had rows for years and years. Why should somebody interfere with that unless it gets nasty? We used to think this forum had better moderation than C4, but at least they let us have a good argument without patronising us.

 

Maybe it was Col 

FM
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Veggieburger:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by sparkles:

Can you explain what you mean by that Cologne?    (The underlined comments...) 

Your history.

Col, this is the sort of thing that Lori is talking about I think. It's certainly about the point I was making earlier.

I have no idea if Sparkles was ever anyone else on here or C4, pretty much don't care either tbh as I've never ever seen Sparkles being unpleasant or making trouble.

But I have seen her (I'm assuming Sparkles is female) being accused several times of being someone else with no shred of proof and once the finger pointing starts then it snowballs and some people will say there's no smoke without fire. I've even seen several posts accusing her and cupcake (another fm that I've never seen being anything but pleasant) of being the same person.

I get that there are previous fms (whether banned or not) who some people can't stand. There's one that I would cross the street to avoid.

But you know what? If a new fm is one that has been banned or caused aggro before then it won't be long until they do it again - some people just can't help themselves.

Until then I reckon we should give any newbie the benefit of the doubt

 

Neither do I and never intended to aim at any FM personally. I just don't like Lori's interference when there's a row on here. What's wrong with that? We've had rows for years and years. Why should somebody interfere with that unless it gets nasty? We used to think this forum had better moderation than C4, but at least they let us have a good argument without patronising us.

 

No they'd just ban us half way through and delete the thread....there was no arguement Col just alot of accusing without the person there to defend themselves, who then saw what was said and deregged....

I don't remember being told never to mention a person's name. That seems to happen quite a bit on this forum and I just don't understand why.

cologne 1

I don't remember being told never to mention a person's name. That seems to happen quite a bit on this forum and I just don't understand why.

 

 

 

 

I remember a few times being told if anyone mentions such and such names they will be banned , surely you must have seen these posts, they were on often enough in the past, any time someone mentioned certain banned members name to be exact ? 

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by sprout:

And to think potential 'new recruits' are watching this 

To be fair... this is certainly not the worst forum, DS is alot worse. And on other forums theres usually alot of fm's throwing insults at each other.

 

You won't find a more friendly forum, however, it is alot easier to be a newbie on those forums... due to there being so many members on others, its easy to just blend in without facing an interrogation. With Gaga though, its not so easily done as we are a small community...

MrMincePie
Originally Posted by ~hoochie~:
Originally Posted by sprout:

And to think potential 'new recruits' are watching this 

Perhaps people who had given up on us might see an ongoing debate that shows there's hope for us, and that not everyone sees things in the same way

TBH, we've all managed to find this place a couple of years ago. The ones that didn't never will and I think we are what we are and I like it. This is a nice forum and it does not need a heavy hand of moderation.

cologne 1
Originally Posted by MrMincePie:
Originally Posted by sprout:

And to think potential 'new recruits' are watching this 

To be fair... this is certainly not the worst forum, DS is alot worse. And on other forums theres usually alot of fm's throwing insults at each other.

 

You won't find a more friendly forum, however, it is alot easier to be a newbie on those forums... due to there being so many members on others, its easy to just blend in without facing an interrogation. With Gaga though, its not so easily done as we are a small community...

Maybe that's part of the problem Mince. If there were a lot of other posters maybe stuff would get lost 'in the ether' and forgotten about

FM
Originally Posted by Lori:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

I don't remember being told never to mention a person's name. That seems to happen quite a bit on this forum and I just don't understand why.

Because it gets nasty. In a hurry.

It doesn't. It just gets a bit agitated and I don't get why we aren't allowed to have emotions.

cologne 1

I think this is healthy discussion, really. I'd really like for you ALL to understand, and I'm willing to keep discussing it (to a point).

 

However, I'm at a loss to explain basic manners.

 

My mother said that if you didn't have something nice to say about someone, you shouldn't say it. When I step in (sorry...I think cologne used the word "interfere") it's because people are getting hurt, or are GOING to get hurt, and, by the way: that's my job--to keep that from happening as best as I can.

 

Just what did you think a Moderator was supposed to do, cologne?

Lori
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by ~hoochie~:
Originally Posted by sprout:

And to think potential 'new recruits' are watching this 

Perhaps people who had given up on us might see an ongoing debate that shows there's hope for us, and that not everyone sees things in the same way

TBH, we've all managed to find this place a couple of years ago. The ones that didn't never will and I think we are what we are and I like it. This is a nice forum and it does not need a heavy hand of moderation.

I beg to differ. Sometimes it does   

FM
Originally Posted by sprout:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by ~hoochie~:
Originally Posted by sprout:

And to think potential 'new recruits' are watching this 

Perhaps people who had given up on us might see an ongoing debate that shows there's hope for us, and that not everyone sees things in the same way

TBH, we've all managed to find this place a couple of years ago. The ones that didn't never will and I think we are what we are and I like it. This is a nice forum and it does not need a heavy hand of moderation.

I beg to differ. Sometimes it does   

Am I allowed to beg to differ with you?

cologne 1
Originally Posted by Lori:

I think this is healthy discussion, really. I'd really like for you ALL to understand, and I'm willing to keep discussing it (to a point).

 

However, I'm at a loss to explain basic manners.

 

My mother said that if you didn't have something nice to say about someone, you shouldn't say it. When I step in (sorry...I think cologne used the word "interfere") it's because people are getting hurt, or are GOING to get hurt, and, by the way: that's my job--to keep that from happening as best as I can.

 

Just what did you think a Moderator was supposed to do, cologne?

Same as my mother Lori  She was a good person at saying......see all and say nowt (nothing) 

FM
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by sprout:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by ~hoochie~:
Originally Posted by sprout:

And to think potential 'new recruits' are watching this 

Perhaps people who had given up on us might see an ongoing debate that shows there's hope for us, and that not everyone sees things in the same way

TBH, we've all managed to find this place a couple of years ago. The ones that didn't never will and I think we are what we are and I like it. This is a nice forum and it does not need a heavy hand of moderation.

I beg to differ. Sometimes it does   

Am I allowed to beg to differ with you?

Of course. 

FM
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by stonks:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by Veggieburger:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by sparkles:

Can you explain what you mean by that Cologne?    (The underlined comments...) 

Your history.

Col, this is the sort of thing that Lori is talking about I think. It's certainly about the point I was making earlier.

I have no idea if Sparkles was ever anyone else on here or C4, pretty much don't care either tbh as I've never ever seen Sparkles being unpleasant or making trouble.

But I have seen her (I'm assuming Sparkles is female) being accused several times of being someone else with no shred of proof and once the finger pointing starts then it snowballs and some people will say there's no smoke without fire. I've even seen several posts accusing her and cupcake (another fm that I've never seen being anything but pleasant) of being the same person.

I get that there are previous fms (whether banned or not) who some people can't stand. There's one that I would cross the street to avoid.

But you know what? If a new fm is one that has been banned or caused aggro before then it won't be long until they do it again - some people just can't help themselves.

Until then I reckon we should give any newbie the benefit of the doubt

 

Neither do I and never intended to aim at any FM personally. I just don't like Lori's interference when there's a row on here. What's wrong with that? We've had rows for years and years. Why should somebody interfere with that unless it gets nasty? We used to think this forum had better moderation than C4, but at least they let us have a good argument without patronising us.

 

No they'd just ban us half way through and delete the thread....there was no arguement Col just alot of accusing without the person there to defend themselves, who then saw what was said and deregged....

I don't remember being told never to mention a person's name. That seems to happen quite a bit on this forum and I just don't understand why.

I do but most of the time they'd just ban you with no bye or leave..I'd rather have the mods here than on ch4....

stonks
Originally Posted by sprout:
And to think potential 'new recruits' are watching this

Not many Sprout.  Do you remember when it was fun on C4? (apart from the useless mods and persistent prats of course)

And now its spam, but the worse kind.  (Spam being defined as unsolicited or undesired electronic messages, but in this case with a fairly nasty message.)  Himself may have been a bit of a nobber but I am not sure he deserved the vilification that he received.  He never bothered me and I generally ignored him.  I never bothered him and he generally ignored me.  Works fine.

Next time I see him here I shall invite him for his favourite meal and we can talk about the good old days, if we can remember any.

I am Sam
Originally Posted by Lori:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

It doesn't. It just gets a bit agitated and I don't get why we aren't allowed to have emotions.

You ARE allowed to have emotions, for heavens' sake!

You AREN'T allowed to use those emotions to trash other people.

I have been very careful since I was banned, but I look and read and watch and I find that people who used to speak their mind don't anymore in case you think they are beyond the pale. It's not good.

cologne 1
Originally Posted by Lori:

I think this is healthy discussion, really. I'd really like for you ALL to understand, and I'm willing to keep discussing it (to a point).

 

However, I'm at a loss to explain basic manners.

 

My mother said that if you didn't have something nice to say about someone, you shouldn't say it. When I step in (sorry...I think cologne used the word "interfere") it's because people are getting hurt, or are GOING to get hurt, and, by the way: that's my job--to keep that from happening as best as I can.

 

Just what did you think a Moderator was supposed to do, cologne?

well said  manners cost nothing

Aimee
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

I have been very careful since I was banned, but I look and read and watch and I find that people who used to speak their mind don't anymore in case you think they are beyond the pale. It's not good.

I'm really sorry you don't like my moderation style, cologne. And I'm sorry that you don't think you can be yourself on here without fear of getting banned. I'm not sure, but I think you are in the minority (I hope).

 

I'll just say that if anyone has a problem with my style, you should simply PM Rosemary with your complaints.

Lori
Originally Posted by Lori:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

I have been very careful since I was banned, but I look and read and watch and I find that people who used to speak their mind don't anymore in case you think they are beyond the pale. It's not good.

I'm really sorry you don't like my moderation style, cologne. And I'm sorry that you don't think you can be yourself on here without fear of getting banned. I'm not sure, but I think you are in the minority (I hope).

 

I'll just say that if anyone has a problem with my style, you should simply PM Rosemary with your complaints.

Or just bugger off to DS...

MrMincePie

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