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Shocking I know but things have turned around terribly now.

Freddie is pretty much hated throughout the land (for reasons unknown to me) and people are actually feeling sorry for the cueball. Shake Head

Lisa is now in a 5 person group (so wont be up again until the final) where as Freddie only has 4 in his group so he's more likely to be up for evction before her, and the way things are looking in the betting he'll soon be the least liked HM left.

Things can change so quickly in only one week in that house. Frowner

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I have to say I'm probably one of those people who've had a turnaround about freddie and Lisa.

Loved Freddie for weeks but Freddie lost favour with me after the argument in the kitchen the other night - he just embarassed himself.

He could probably have handled it a bit better.

I actually felt sorry for Lisa Eeker Laugh

Having said all that, I think he will still make it to the end.
FM
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Sleepy

All HMs get a good bashing every now and again, this week is Freddies turn... Lisa, Noirin and Kris got it every week.


Him getting a bashing is one thing but at least make it a deserved bashing, his only crime seems to be liking Bea. Roll Eyes


Well there is the the arguement with Lisa and the convo with him and marcus, Noirin got a bashing for just liking Siavash... perhaps freddie deserves it more than she does.
MrMincePie
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Sleepy

All HMs get a good bashing every now and again, this week is Freddies turn... Lisa, Noirin and Kris got it every week.


Him getting a bashing is one thing but at least make it a deserved bashing, his only crime seems to be liking Bea. Roll Eyes

Ppl don't seem to like his argument with Lisa, but I was quite proud of him for saying what most of us are thinking. He's not turning nasty, he's just got a bit more confidence and why not. How anybody can feel sorry for Lisa is beyond me, she has no thought for anyone else.
cologne 1
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Sleepy

All HMs get a good bashing every now and again, this week is Freddies turn... Lisa, Noirin and Kris got it every week.


Him getting a bashing is one thing but at least make it a deserved bashing, his only crime seems to be liking Bea. Roll Eyes


Well there is the the arguement with Lisa and the convo with him and marcus, Noirin got a bashing for just liking Siavash... perhaps freddie deserves it more than she does.


The argument with Lisa was justified, the convo with Marcus Freddie never said a negative word about Hira (and you bloody know it), Noirin did not just get a bashing because of her thing with Siavash.

Noirin got a bashing because Noirin was a user throughout the show and behaved like a tramp at the end.
Videostar
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Originally posted by cologne1:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Sleepy

All HMs get a good bashing every now and again, this week is Freddies turn... Lisa, Noirin and Kris got it every week.


Him getting a bashing is one thing but at least make it a deserved bashing, his only crime seems to be liking Bea. Roll Eyes

Ppl don't seem to like his argument with Lisa, but I was quite proud of him for saying what most of us are thinking. He's not turning nasty, he's just got a bit more confidence and why not. How anybody can feel sorry for Lisa is beyond me, she has no thought for anyone else.


he grows a pair and gets crucified for it,
still supporting freddie.
justafriend
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Can't see any possibility of Freddie going if he was up against Lisa. Yeah, he's not doing so well this last week or so, but Lisa is FAR more unpopular, she escaped last night by the skin of her teeth and if Freddie had kept his gob shut, especially his Ner, ner comment she would probably have gone
But how is Lisa going to go before Freddie if he wont be up for eviction anymore.?

Shes in the bigger group now.
Videostar
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Originally posted by Justafriend:
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Originally posted by cologne1:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Sleepy

All HMs get a good bashing every now and again, this week is Freddies turn... Lisa, Noirin and Kris got it every week.


Him getting a bashing is one thing but at least make it a deserved bashing, his only crime seems to be liking Bea. Roll Eyes

Ppl don't seem to like his argument with Lisa, but I was quite proud of him for saying what most of us are thinking. He's not turning nasty, he's just got a bit more confidence and why not. How anybody can feel sorry for Lisa is beyond me, she has no thought for anyone else.


he grows a pair and gets crucified for it,
still supporting freddie.


If he said nothing to Lisa the same people who are now slating him for standing up to her would be calling him a coward...the guy cant win no matter what. Shake Head
Videostar
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Sleepy

All HMs get a good bashing every now and again, this week is Freddies turn... Lisa, Noirin and Kris got it every week.


Him getting a bashing is one thing but at least make it a deserved bashing, his only crime seems to be liking Bea. Roll Eyes


Well there is the the arguement with Lisa and the convo with him and marcus, Noirin got a bashing for just liking Siavash... perhaps freddie deserves it more than she does.


The argument with Lisa was justified, the convo with Marcus Freddie never said a negative word about Hira (and you bloody know it), Noirin did not just get a bashing because of her thing with Siavash.

Noirin got a bashing because Noirin was a user throughout the show and behaved like a tramp at the end.


Im sure there are HMs you dislike, if people don't like him then they shouldnt be branded haters, the other day someone claimed that people were doing it just to wind freddie fans up. Its like people are not allowed to say anything about Freddie unless its bigging him up Shake Head I don't hate Freddie... but just find other HMs more entertaining.
MrMincePie
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by Justafriend:
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Originally posted by cologne1:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Sleepy

All HMs get a good bashing every now and again, this week is Freddies turn... Lisa, Noirin and Kris got it every week.


Him getting a bashing is one thing but at least make it a deserved bashing, his only crime seems to be liking Bea. Roll Eyes

Ppl don't seem to like his argument with Lisa, but I was quite proud of him for saying what most of us are thinking. He's not turning nasty, he's just got a bit more confidence and why not. How anybody can feel sorry for Lisa is beyond me, she has no thought for anyone else.


he grows a pair and gets crucified for it,
still supporting freddie.


If he said nothing to Lisa the same people who are now slating him for standing up to her would be calling him a coward...the guy cant win no matter what. Shake Head


people must like seeing people used abused and bullied,its very sad,
he says what hes thinking and hes wrong.
justafriend
Freddie was balanced,kind and not judgemental ,however since Bea has come on the scene Freddie has changed.There is a air of superiority about him ,an arrogance, and a big old ego . I may well be wrong but it's just my opinion that if Bea had went Freddie would have turned it around,I fear with her still there Freddie will go into decline.
FM
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Originally posted by erinp:
Freddie was balanced,kind and not judgemental ,however since Bea has come on the scene Freddie has changed.There is a air of superiority about him ,an arrogance, and a big old ego . I may well be wrong but it's just my opinion that if Bea had went Freddie would have turned it around,I fear with her still there Freddie will go into decline.


I think you are spot on Erin Nod
FM
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Originally posted by Justafriend:
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Originally posted by cologne1:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Sleepy

All HMs get a good bashing every now and again, this week is Freddies turn... Lisa, Noirin and Kris got it every week.


Him getting a bashing is one thing but at least make it a deserved bashing, his only crime seems to be liking Bea. Roll Eyes

Ppl don't seem to like his argument with Lisa, but I was quite proud of him for saying what most of us are thinking. He's not turning nasty, he's just got a bit more confidence and why not. How anybody can feel sorry for Lisa is beyond me, she has no thought for anyone else.


he grows a pair and gets crucified for it,
still supporting freddie.

Exactly. I bet the people that are slating him now used to shout at their TV for him to argue back.
cologne 1
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Can't see any possibility of Freddie going if he was up against Lisa. Yeah, he's not doing so well this last week or so, but Lisa is FAR more unpopular, she escaped last night by the skin of her teeth and if Freddie had kept his gob shut, especially his Ner, ner comment she would probably have gone
But how is Lisa going to go before Freddie if he wont be up for eviction anymore.?

Shes in the bigger group now.


vid dont worry what will be will be and if freddie goes before lisa i hope she wins if only to let people know how wrong they were to want to keep her in Hug
mrs d
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Sleepy

All HMs get a good bashing every now and again, this week is Freddies turn... Lisa, Noirin and Kris got it every week.


Him getting a bashing is one thing but at least make it a deserved bashing, his only crime seems to be liking Bea. Roll Eyes


Well there is the the arguement with Lisa and the convo with him and marcus, Noirin got a bashing for just liking Siavash... perhaps freddie deserves it more than she does.


The argument with Lisa was justified, the convo with Marcus Freddie never said a negative word about Hira (and you bloody know it), Noirin did not just get a bashing because of her thing with Siavash.

Noirin got a bashing because Noirin was a user throughout the show and behaved like a tramp at the end.


Im sure there are HMs you dislike, if people don't like him then they shouldnt be branded haters, the other day someone claimed that people were doing it just to wind freddie fans up. Its like people are not allowed to say anything about Freddie unless its bigging him up Shake Head I don't hate Freddie... but just find other HMs more entertaining.


You never answered my points to you tho.

I haven't called you a hater, anyone can dislike the guy as it's their opinion, but i've seen some fickle stupid reasons to go off him of late, thats wha drives me nuts.

In my opinion Freddie hasn't changed since week 1, the only difference is that he's really close to a HM which he hasn't had before.
Videostar
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Originally posted by mrs d:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Can't see any possibility of Freddie going if he was up against Lisa. Yeah, he's not doing so well this last week or so, but Lisa is FAR more unpopular, she escaped last night by the skin of her teeth and if Freddie had kept his gob shut, especially his Ner, ner comment she would probably have gone
But how is Lisa going to go before Freddie if he wont be up for eviction anymore.?

Shes in the bigger group now.


vid dont worry what will be will be and if freddie goes before lisa i hope she wins if only to let people know how wrong they were to want to keep her in Hug

The BB viewers get the winner they deserve I guess mrs d. Hug
Videostar
i thought he dealt far better with lisa & co in his old manner......the 'ah ok lisa.yeah fine' and walking off......that way she didn't get what she was perhaps looking for...an arguement.....

i don't know if it's cos he's besotted with bea and trying to impress her....or he wants to look the 'cool kid' infront of marcus.....but he's changed.....

he went through a few weeks not being up...not even being nominated....he'd won....he'd won the battle of the house.

now he's undone all his good work and is right back to square one......
SS
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Originally posted by cologne1:
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Originally posted by tupps:
tall poppy syndrome.. Nod

Yep that and having to bring somebody down when they get too successful, although that seems to be a peculiar British trait. (Please nobody hit me) Big Grin


nah you're right.. it is a very British trait to big up the under-dog and then when they come back and bite the aggressor, to want to cut them down to size..
tupps
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Sleepy

All HMs get a good bashing every now and again, this week is Freddies turn... Lisa, Noirin and Kris got it every week.


Him getting a bashing is one thing but at least make it a deserved bashing, his only crime seems to be liking Bea. Roll Eyes


Well there is the the arguement with Lisa and the convo with him and marcus, Noirin got a bashing for just liking Siavash... perhaps freddie deserves it more than she does.


The argument with Lisa was justified, the convo with Marcus Freddie never said a negative word about Hira (and you bloody know it), Noirin did not just get a bashing because of her thing with Siavash.

Noirin got a bashing because Noirin was a user throughout the show and behaved like a tramp at the end.


Im sure there are HMs you dislike, if people don't like him then they shouldnt be branded haters, the other day someone claimed that people were doing it just to wind freddie fans up. Its like people are not allowed to say anything about Freddie unless its bigging him up Shake Head I don't hate Freddie... but just find other HMs more entertaining.


You never answered my points to you tho.

I haven't called you a hater, anyone can dislike the guy as it's their opinion, but i've seen some fickle stupid reasons to go off him of late, thats wha drives me nuts.

In my opinion Freddie hasn't changed since week 1, the only difference is that he's really close to a HM which he hasn't had before.


I don't need to give anyone reasons as to why i dislike him... but i do find him boringSleepy There is that i disliked how they ganged up on David in the kitchen aswell. Some people just brand everyone haters because they dislike him, thats what pisses me off most.
MrMincePie
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Originally posted by cologne1:
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Originally posted by tupps:
tall poppy syndrome.. Nod

Yep that and having to bring somebody down when they get too successful, although that seems to be a peculiar British trait. (Please nobody hit me) Big Grin


It's funny because when an intelligent person in the BB house survives evictions they are called "arrogant, cocky" but if a less intelligent person survives they are labelled "confident, self assured" Laugh
Videostar
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Sleepy

All HMs get a good bashing every now and again, this week is Freddies turn... Lisa, Noirin and Kris got it every week.


Him getting a bashing is one thing but at least make it a deserved bashing, his only crime seems to be liking Bea. Roll Eyes


Well there is the the arguement with Lisa and the convo with him and marcus, Noirin got a bashing for just liking Siavash... perhaps freddie deserves it more than she does.


The argument with Lisa was justified, the convo with Marcus Freddie never said a negative word about Hira (and you bloody know it), Noirin did not just get a bashing because of her thing with Siavash.

Noirin got a bashing because Noirin was a user throughout the show and behaved like a tramp at the end.


Im sure there are HMs you dislike, if people don't like him then they shouldnt be branded haters, the other day someone claimed that people were doing it just to wind freddie fans up. Its like people are not allowed to say anything about Freddie unless its bigging him up Shake Head I don't hate Freddie... but just find other HMs more entertaining.


You never answered my points to you tho.

I haven't called you a hater, anyone can dislike the guy as it's their opinion, but i've seen some fickle stupid reasons to go off him of late, thats wha drives me nuts.

In my opinion Freddie hasn't changed since week 1, the only difference is that he's really close to a HM which he hasn't had before.


I don't need to give anyone reasons as to why i dislike him... but i do find him boringSleepy There is that i disliked how they ganged up on David in the kitchen aswell. Some people just brand everyone haters because they dislike him, thats what pisses me off most.


Well, I've seen some pretty hatful posts and threads about him.
Videostar
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Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:
i thought he dealt far better with lisa & co in his old manner......the 'ah ok lisa.yeah fine' and walking off......that way she didn't get what she was perhaps looking for...an arguement.....

i don't know if it's cos he's besotted with bea and trying to impress her....or he wants to look the 'cool kid' infront of marcus.....but he's changed...........


I agree sponge.

I think it was fine that he stood up to Lisa but it was the way he did it that I didn't like.

Saw a different side to him.

Shame.
FM
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Originally posted by MrMeatAndPotatoPie:
Sleepy

All HMs get a good bashing every now and again, this week is Freddies turn... Lisa, Noirin and Kris got it every week.


Him getting a bashing is one thing but at least make it a deserved bashing, his only crime seems to be liking Bea. Roll Eyes[/QUOTE]

Well there is the the arguement with Lisa and the convo with him and marcus, Noirin got a bashing for just liking Siavash... perhaps freddie deserves it more than she does.[/QUOTE]

The argument with Lisa was justified, the convo with Marcus Freddie never said a negative word about Hira (and you bloody know it), Noirin did not just get a bashing because of her thing with Siavash.

Noirin got a bashing because Noirin was a user throughout the show and behaved like a tramp at the end.[/QUOTE]

Im sure there are HMs you dislike, if people don't like him then they shouldnt be branded haters, the other day someone claimed that people were doing it just to wind freddie fans up. Its like people are not allowed to say anything about Freddie unless its bigging him up Shake Head I don't hate Freddie... but just find other HMs more entertaining.[/QUOTE]

You never answered my points to you tho.

I haven't called you a hater, anyone can dislike the guy as it's their opinion, but i've seen some fickle stupid reasons to go off him of late, thats wha drives me nuts.

In my opinion Freddie hasn't changed since week 1, the only difference is that he's really close to a HM which he hasn't had before.[/QUOTE]

I don't need to give anyone reasons as to why i dislike him... but i do find him boringSleepy There is that i disliked how they ganged up on David in the kitchen aswell. Some people just brand everyone haters because they dislike him, thats what pisses me off most.[/QUOTE]

Well, I've seen some pretty hatful posts and threads about him.[/QUOTE]

Not everyone though... only few individuals.
MrMincePie

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