And still they sail in at airports untested. It's Looney Tunes PG.
Self-quarantine is another running joke. The Govt. should be offering anonymous bounties on them. First come first served.
@velvet donkey posted:There is no answer though. Not now, not here. The big rush for the economy baby - that paid dividends. And don't espouse the common sense of the British people in Parliament - they have none. Like you lot.
Controvertial and uncalled for Velvet
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Controvertial and uncalled for Velvet
I was talking about those in Parliament. Jeez 
Specifically the Govt.
OK. But still a wee bit unclear on first reading and only can see that on second reading taking your reply into account.
From twitter today, highlighting the idiotic members of the Liverpool public who decided to party and attack police.
These pictures Shame our City, attacking our brave Police Officers is unacceptable.Our Health Service is creaking,300 in Hospital&30 people dead in week 😱ignoring these facts is why we are in Tier 3 measures. https://t.co/WIW12AuAhr
— Joe Anderson (@mayor_anderson) October 14, 2020
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:From twitter today, highlighting the idiotic members of the Liverpool public who decided to party and attack police.
These pictures Shame our City, attacking our brave Police Officers is unacceptable.Our Health Service is creaking,300 in Hospital&30 people dead in week 😱ignoring these facts is why we are in Tier 3 measures. https://t.co/WIW12AuAhr
— Joe Anderson (@mayor_anderson) October 14, 2020
I saw that EC .....total morons 
No wonder we are in a mess ....it’s not all down to the government ......although they leave a lot to be desired ....but no one can legislate for the selfishness and stupidity of people like that ....which is why I still say they should shut all the pubs !
@Baz posted:I saw that EC .....total morons
Yes, agree, it's clear from months of news items, there are far too many people who are not going to stick by the rules, take precautions and help overcome C-19.
It's OK pub spokespeople saying C-19 does not observe a 10pm curfew, but I now think most of that is "I actually want to stay open regardless of how my punters behave but I will make a soundbite that sounds like I support measures to a degree without being truely honest".
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Yes, agree, it's clear from months of news items, there are far too many people who are not going to stick by the rules, take precautions and help overcome C-19.
It's OK pub spokespeople saying C-19 does not observe a 10pm curfew, but I now think most of that is "I actually want to stay open regardless of how my punters behave but I will make a soundbite that sounds like I support measures to a degree without being truely honest".
I totally agree EC 
And let’s face it , booze does lower your inhibitions , which in this situation is the last thing we need! It’s hard enough obeying all the rules and regulations when you are stone cold sober ....especially after all this time .....but if you are drunk , or even tiddly, it’s even harder .....hence scenes like those in liverpool !
After it has been revealed that a lot of infection has been brought into Scotland from Blackpool (idiotic day trippers!) I can see cross border closure/banning happening here too. I mean, we're not even supposed to go from area to area within Scotland!!!
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:After it has been revealed that a lot of infection has been brought into Scotland from Blackpool (idiotic day trippers!) I can see cross border closure/banning happening here too. I mean, we're not even supposed to go from area to area within Scotland!!!
I saw that EFFT ....and once again I can’t say that I would blame your government 
Rox is okay. Avoiding all Covid topic and Trump. Easier said than done in swing state Florida.
She misses you all and will be back.
Wear a mask in the corridor and canteen. Forget the office where you sit enclosed for six plus hours.
New Scottish regs. Spot the oxymoron.
Sturgeon is political. Why was there a SNP Party Political Broadcast after last nights news at six?
Opportunism.
I would vote as far away from England politically right now. It's sunk. Dunno if I could take years of Noddy rule though.
And I Iove England. And Wales and N. Ire. It's fecked and it hasn't even started.
@Kaytee posted:It's not grim in my neck of the woods, it's just getting dafter
Not long to go then...
Expect a sudden increase of infections amongst birdwatchers!
Have you seen the pictures of them crowded round the marshes where that rare bird was seen?
Is it really worth risking your life (and the lives of others) just to see a bird - no matter HOW rare it is!
I'm really sick and tired of all the assumptions people are making about this virus.
All right, it is A coronavirus and all the coronaviruses we have encountered so far have behaved in a closely similar way. It is widely acknowledged that this is a new/novel strain that we don't really know about, but from day one it was ASSUMED that it would behave closely similar to other coronaviruses and then great shock was displayed when it DIDN'T behave in accordance with the assumed expectations.
Did we learn anything from this?
No, it was 'Oh well, let's carry on with the assumptions.'
Just because certain things have (or haven't) happened to certain groups, once again the assumption is made that that is how the virus behaves and will always behave that way. And once again we are seeing shock that it's NOT always behaving that way.
Why are we making (and continuing to make) all these assumptions? We pretty well have a good idea of how existing viruses work because they have been around for several years and so longer term effects can be seen and mitigations made. This virus is only a matter of months old, thus how stable or unstable it is, how it might mutate, how it's effects might change from group to group...... and importantly, what it's long term effects might be (good, bad or indifferent) can, at best, only be guessed at.
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Expect a sudden increase of infections amongst birdwatchers!
Have you seen the pictures of them crowded round the marshes where that rare bird was seen?
Is it really worth risking your life (and the lives of others) just to see a bird - no matter HOW rare it is!
Like you, I was reading yesterday's reports of this in utter disbelief, EFFT...
@Baz posted:You’re lucky KAytee .....it’s pretty dire around where I am
The rates have been pretty stable since the first lockdown, even with the students coming back, although the Uni isn't campus based which helps. Not many pubs either, only 3 in town and the drinks are very expensive so less young people bother..
@velvet donkey posted:Not long to go then...
Not changed much since March, people seem to be behaving.......moreover there's more posh people in the borough living in their mansions who dont fraternise with us peasants
So Wales is shutting down for 2 weeks .....when the heck is Boris going to realise that we need to do the same His policy of negotiating with the regions isn’t working ....and never will when the likes of Andy Burnham would rather score political points ....and play up the north/south divide ...moron
Like it or not, Boris needs to realize that the state he's got the country in is mayhem. We really need to go back to full lockdown and start again, otherwise it's just lurching from one unruly crisis to another!
@velvet donkey posted:All Boris cares about is London.
He’s not the only one, anything outside of the universe (London) is fair game
I have got to admit I agree in part with Andy Burnham and I never thought I would hear myself saying that...I don't think for one minute he's playing politics, he's trying to ensure that those on the lowest wages can survive the winter months not going to work...the 22 million they have now offered is 3 million less than Jennick got for his constituency claiming the 25 million grant for the 101 poorest towns...Jenicks is 272 on the list
If they can pay consultants 7 grand a day for a track and trace system that still isn't working properly they should be able to feed those on minimum wage that will have to take drastic wage cuts... IMO
@Moonie posted:Hi Dameee
According to news reports Burnham was offered 60 million. He said he would come down from 75 million to 65 million. Now they are only going to get 22 million.
I guess if what I said is wrong someone will put me right
That’s what I heard too Moonie ,...in fact I am pretty sure he said it himself in the interview he did .....which I watched live ....which is why I stick by my assertion that he’s playing politics and only has himself to blame ......it’s the people of Manchester I feel sorry for !
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
You're absolutley spot on Moonie, but it's not enough . They offered Lancaster 40 million and told them to take it or get nothing. Cities need enough to make sure families have food and heating through winter...even a lot of Tories are disgusted. It's no way to govern, that isn't governing it's a Cummings dictatorship.
So now they are happy to take the offer back and have 22 million which won't even touch the sides of this lockdown, you have to remember Manchester have had 11 of tier two with hardly any help.
I think you’ll find it was Lancashire that got the 44 million Dame ...not just Lancaster ....which must have as many people as Manchester .. I don’t think Boris has handled the pandemic well at all , but I still say Burnham was simply playing politics ....and may have an eye on the Labour leadership some time in the future ,... cos if he was so concerned about the people of Manchester he would have taken the 60 million ....which is much more than either Lancashire or Liverpool got ! And if I was him I’d be kicking myself right now , cos he really overplayed his hand .....but I guess all’s fair in love, war and politics .
@Baz posted:I think you’ll find it was Lancashire that got the 44 million Dame ...not just Lancaster ....which must have as many people as Manchester .. I don’t think Boris has handled the pandemic well at all , but I still say Burnham was simply playing politics ....and may have an eye on the Labour leadership some time in the future ,... cos if he was so concerned about the people of Manchester he would have taken the 60 million ....which is much more than either Lancashire or Liverpool got ! And if I was him I’d be kicking myself right now , cos he really overplayed his hand .....but I guess all’s fair in love, war and politics .
I'ts 1 million less people Baz and very different from inner cities. I have never liked Andy Burnham, we will have to agree to disagree about it being political or not. Andy Burnham isn't even an MP, so I doubt very much he'll be LOTO in the near future.
I think this lady summed it up in one tweet...
Where this pandemic is concerned, we're all in the same storm but we are not all in the same boat. Some are in huge yachts and can hardly feel a ripple, some are in smaller boats which are listing slightly to port, some are rowing, exhausted and some are in the water, drowning.