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And today it's 800 new cases in Scotland and 167 in Lanarkshire! :3rd highest

It’s bad in my region too EFFT So , like you , I will stay in the house and get my shopping etc delivered .....goodness knows what we would have done had this occurred before the Internet 

Baz

I'll follow every rule to stay safe - it's soul destroying to see people not even try.

So this morning our neighbour (80 yrs old) picked up her friend along the street to go shopping!!

On return the same lady approached our neighbour and asked "do you want a lift tomorrow?"

Unbelievable  

Saint
@Saint posted:

I'll follow every rule to stay safe - it's soul destroying to see people not even try.

So this morning our neighbour (80 yrs old) picked up her friend along the street to go shopping!!

On return the same lady approached our neighbour and asked "do you want a lift tomorrow?"

Unbelievable  

I don’t know what planet these people are on Renton....I truly don’t 

Baz
@Saint posted:

I'll follow every rule to stay safe - it's soul destroying to see people not even try.

So this morning our neighbour (80 yrs old) picked up her friend along the street to go shopping!!

On return the same lady approached our neighbour and asked "do you want a lift tomorrow?"

Unbelievable  

Maybe this attitude from an uncaring portion of society towards the 'older generation' of 'They'll be dead soon anyway' is begining to filter into said 'older generation' and some of them are now thinking 'We'll be dead soon anyway, so we might as well enjoy ourselves while we can!

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
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Maybe this attitude from an uncaring portion of society towards the 'older generation' of 'They'll be dead soon anyway' is begining to filter into said 'older generation' and some of them are now thinking 'We'll be dead soon anyway, so we might as well enjoy ourselves while we can!

That would be hilarious

Bunch of senior citizens marching shuffling on Whitehall, throwing masks in the air, singing,

"Anarchy in the OAP" 

Saint
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@Saint posted:

That would be hilarious

Bunch of senior citizens marching shuffling on Whitehall, throwing masks in the air, singing,

"Anarchy in the OAP" 

Demanding everyone under 30 is locked down so the rest of us can go out and about😂

Kaytee

I have been wondering.....is data processed by humans or an algorithm?.......Apparently the council leader of Richmond Surrey, one of the wealthiest boroughs in the SE smelled a rat,when cases increased when local testing,admissions to hospitals etc hadn't changed much. He discovered that students who had gone to Uni elsewhere were putting their home addresses on the tracing paperwork...thus boosting positive tests in their home areas not their Uni areas,so greatly distorting the figures.....this must be happening all over the place

Also.......as flu, colds and other respiratory diseases are also corona viruses......is it possible that some positives and purported spreaders are actually suffering from something else,but put down as Covid?

confused?.....you bet!

Kaytee
@Kaytee posted:

I have been wondering.....is data processed by humans or an algorithm?.......Apparently the council leader of Richmond Surrey, one of the wealthiest boroughs in the SE smelled a rat,when cases increased when local testing,admissions to hospitals etc hadn't changed much. He discovered that students who had gone to Uni elsewhere were putting their home addresses on the tracing paperwork...thus boosting positive tests in their home areas not their Uni areas,so greatly distorting the figures.....this must be happening all over the place

Also.......as flu, colds and other respiratory diseases are also corona viruses......is it possible that some positives and purported spreaders are actually suffering from something else,but put down as Covid?

confused?.....you bet!

It does make you wonder KAytee

Baz

Virus rampaging through the population once more. I still maintain it is mainly because restrictions were relaxed too soon and too quickly, given that nothing about the virus has effectively changed!

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing

It's so obvious why the government is blaming the public, I worked this out three weeks ago. The pubs opened on July 4th with no significant rise in July and August and if there was it would have been manageable to contain....schools and uni's opened and surprise



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Dame_Ann_Average
@Baz posted:

I think it’s a combination Dame ......imo pubs and uni’s are the main drivers .....but whatever it is , on this occasion,  I support any moves to contain it .

The rise in pubs isn't that significant Baz, I can only speak for my own personal experience, most pubs have done everything possible in the workplace to make it safe for staff and clientele .....the mass throwing out at ten will probably cause a spike in hospitality because people are leaving city pubs en masse.

Schools and uni's were always going to send the R number sky-high, the government have not made it safe for schools and uni's to open safely. We have had 7 months to prepare, or prepare for lessons online...they have done nothing. We have ignored advice from countries that are doing really well, mainly Asian countries who are now as near as normal as they can possibly be. Why not go with the obvious and follow their lead....

Dame_Ann_Average

The rise in pubs isn't that significant Baz, I can only speak for my own personal experience, most pubs have done everything possible in the workplace to make it safe for staff and clientele .....the mass throwing out at ten will probably cause a spike in hospitality because people are leaving city pubs en masse.

Schools and uni's were always going to send the R number sky-high, the government have not made it safe for schools and uni's to open safely. We have had 7 months to prepare, or prepare for lessons online...they have done nothing. We have ignored advice from countries that are doing really well, mainly Asian countries who are now as near as normal as they can possibly be. Why not go with the obvious and follow their lead....

I am sure that some pubs have done as you say , but you only have to look at how some people behave when the are drinking I truly can’t understand why pubs were opened so soon.....alcohol  is not a necessity ....and if it is there are other ways of getting it . But I agree that unis in particular were not prepared . Let’s face it , it’s a mess ....but I can’t see that less controls is the way to goAs for Asian countries , firstly, I can’t help but think the figures are a lot higher than recorded , and secondly , they....the populace .... are far better at obeying their governments than we are

Baz

A school in Boston has closed as there were 5 covid cases,  my granddaughters school introduced mask wearing in the playground when picking children up (but waited 4weeks before implementation!) as parents were “gathering “ in groups

machel

Well, Liverpool pubs set too close except Wetherspoons.

Little bit of Cronyism going on eh 'food-based pubs' such as Wetherspoons will be allowed to stay open in Merseyside while pubs and bars that don't "substantially" serve food will have to close later this week.



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Dame_Ann_Average
@machel posted:

A school in Boston has closed as there were 5 covid cases,  my granddaughters school introduced mask wearing in the playground when picking children up (but waited 4weeks before implementation!) as parents were “gathering “ in groups





My grandchildren schools still don't have to wear masks. my eldest grandson was back at school two weeks when he had to isolate for two weeks when one of his year was tested positive. His year were not allowed back to school, although the girl who tested positive's sister was allowed back in another year...madness Machel.

Dame_Ann_Average
@Baz posted:

I think this should be above politics Dame

Baz, it's all about politics.... sadly, about money, about privatising the NHS. I am not politicising it, Starmer is useless and pushed for pubs, schools and work places opening...we have an inept government happily throwing billions to mates and using a pandemic as an excuse!

Dame_Ann_Average

I wonder why politics governs a 'medical' emergency?

I've often wondered why politicians think they can run a country - perhaps they shouldn't. Seems to be their party, their politics and their image that comes first

Saint




My grandchildren schools still don't have to wear masks. my eldest grandson was back at school two weeks when he had to isolate for two weeks when one of his year was tested positive. His year were not allowed back to school, although the girl who tested positive's sister was allowed back in another year...madness Machel.

Total madness Dame, they are making it up as they go along.

Their school is very small, 40+ pupils over 3 classes each class in its own bubble but with many brother/sisters the bubbles don’t work too well,

machel

Baz, it's all about politics.... sadly, about money, about privatising the NHS. I am not politicising it, Starmer is useless and pushed for pubs, schools and work places opening...we have an inept government happily throwing billions to mates and using a pandemic as an excuse!

Sprout
@Baz posted:

I know we shouldn’t panic , but I think we all are starting to now.   And I can’t help wondering how Roxan is doing over there

I think it is because we are more aware this time, I am worried about another lockdown, the pressures on my daughters, I don’t think I can cope

machel
@Baz posted:

I know we shouldn’t panic , but I think we all are starting to now.   And I can’t help wondering how Roxan is doing over there

Hope she's in hiding - Trump's visiting Florida!



Am I really laughing though? It's all getting scarier by the day - here and there!

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing

Interview with Newcastle student on local news - she's admitted her hall of residence is partying every night and she wants to leave cos she doesn't feel safe. She said they were not taking the advice seriously.

Brilliant - thank you so much

Saint

Nothing is taken seriously. It needs heavily enforced and with higher - £1000 say - first time penalties for non mask wearing. Partying and everything else should be hit hard. The Govt. are not even serious. Too little, too late, as per March.



Can't pay we'll take it away. That's a temp job for a ballerina.

VD
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There is no answer though. Not now, not here. The big rush for the economy baby - that paid dividends. And don't espouse the common sense of the British people in Parliament - they have none. Like you lot.

VD
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