Where is the common sense in going on holiday during a pandemic?
No sympathy for 2 weeks isolation on return from Spain
@Baz posted:Ditto from me .....and even taking their kids with them !
And they'll be refusing to send their kids to school, quoting safety reasons! 
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:And they'll be refusing to send their kids to school, quoting safety reasons!
Exactly EFFT ...totally ludicrous!
@Baz posted:Ditto from me .....and even taking their kids with them !
They were warned that air bridges could be closed at little notice.....that if they booked after lockdown then their insurance wouldn't cover Corona related illnesses , but the travel firms had cheap offers to suck them in and they fell for it. Moreover 12 people returning from Spain have tested positive very recently.....so no sympathy from me either🙄
@Kaytee posted:They were warned that air bridges could be closed at little notice.....that if they booked after lockdown then their insurance wouldn't cover Corona related illnesses , but the travel firms had cheap offers to suck them in and they fell for it. Moreover 12 people returning from Spain have tested positive very recently.....so no sympathy from me either🙄
I have the World Snooker championship from Sheffield on the television. There is an audience but obviously not the usual amount of people. Some are socially distanced, some aren’t. Some have masks on, some don’t 
I have just noticed the players are sitting right next each other, as they have always done 
No social distancing there then? 
It’s asking for trouble 
The answer is that Of Course You can go on holiday, but that if you go outwith this country you have to be prepared to face WHATEVER the situation in that country is AND whatever the situation in this country is on your return, The risk is totally yours and the consequences are up to YOU to decide if the uncertainty is worth the hassle!
@Moonie posted:I have the World Snooker championship from Sheffield on the television. There is an audience but obviously not the usual amount of people. Some are socially distanced, some aren’t. Some have masks on, some don’t
I have just noticed the players are sitting right next each other, as they have always done
No social distancing there then?
It’s asking for trouble
@Moonie posted:People on the radio whinging about if they can go on holiday or now
Get a life and use your brain
Crazy Moonie .....what they can’t seem to understand is that if they don’t endure a bit of personal pain now , we will all be enduring far worse in the next few months !
@Former Member posted:Hello still here! Hadn’t been able to log in for days finally decided to try on my phone. Hope everyone is ok!
@Former Member posted:When I think of the stoicism of people in the past, through wars and recessions and the like, I am just stunned that people can’t tow the line for a few short months to protect each other.
Glad you are ok Roxan ....and I agree with you 
@velvet donkey posted:Nice blank Baz. Clocked.
Hope you are ok Velvet
@Moonie posted:I haven't seen any photos but I can just imagine
You can see them on the BBC news pages totally rediculous! By and large, society has no self-dicipline!!!
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:You can see them on the BBC news pages totally rediculous! By and large, society has no self-dicipline!!!
Ain’t that the truth EFFT !
Hmm.....is this really a big surprise? One of the GP drivers has tested positive for Covid-19.
I don't think this really is a surprise either:- "The age distribution of infections has changed - it has moved down into younger age groups.
The overriding message that came across from the start gave the impression that the virus was less likely to be caught by younger people (even though that was not what was actually being said). So some sectors may not have been as diligent as they should have been.
I know that people of all ages have been good at observing all the rules of lockdown and also people of all ages have been bad at observing the rules. Not forgetting that some of the messages have not been as clear as they should have been causing a bit of confusion. So I am not intending to blame any one person or group, just making a personal observation.
Truth is , unless they can eradicate every last vestige of the darned virus no one is safe . Roll on a vaccine I say ....or at least a viable , safe treatment On the subject of opening schools, I see there is talk of maybe having to shut pubs again in order to make school opening safer, but we might have to see other compromises/ trade offs in order for the more important parts of society to operate safely.
i.e. are pubs or schools more important?
If it was JUST those two,then it's schools every time, but I'm sure things won't be that simple!
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:On the subject of opening schools, I see there is talk of maybe having to shut pubs again in order to make school opening safer, but we might have to see other compromises/ trade offs in order for the more important parts of society to operate safely.
i.e. are pubs or schools more important?
If it was JUST those two,then it's schools every time, but I'm sure things won't be that simple!
Yes , I saw that too EFFT ......my own feeling are that schools might open but will probably then have to close again .....or at the least there will be local closures .....and as far as I’m concerned pubs should have been the last places to open ....cos people seem to leave any common sense at the door!
So health and science are now saying 'a second wave' is probable, rather than possible, this Autumn/Winter!
But apparently they are NOT contravening your rights, because 'the disease does not exist or has been overhyped' as far as a lot of them are concerned. So what are you worried about?!
@Baz posted:I see the Germans are now protesting in Berlin against things such as wearing masks ......I truly do not understand it ! These groups bang on about their civil rights , but what about my rights not to be infected
Funny how they're all right wing idiots moaning about liberty. And they're everywhere
You really do wonder.
And these loons are our future - God help us!
@velvet donkey posted:Funny how they're all right wing idiots moaning about liberty. And they're everywhere
You really do wonder.
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:But apparently they are NOT contravening your rights, because 'the disease does not exist or has been overhyped' as far as a lot of them are concerned. So what are you worried about?!
Exactly ! Perhaps they should put them in a room with some of those who have lost loved ones and let them explain their bliddy conspiracy theories to them !
@Baz posted:I see Russia is saying it will apparently have their vaccine ready to be rolled out by October ....
Who's though? 
@velvet donkey posted:Who's though?
There is that Velvet
If you ever get the chance to see Kill Chain on Sky docs. take it.
How to hack US elections. Eye opener.
@velvet donkey posted:If you ever get the chance to see Chain Kill on Sky docs. take it.
How to hack US elections. Eye opener.
I’ve been listening to a series on the radio about the ways we are manipulated in many, many spheres of life .