@Baz posted:Yes, I heard that in the lunchtime news EC....the guy can’t even get his lies straight
That was Eugene Baz. 
My post was about approval ratings.
@Eugene's Lair posted:As I write this, this petition looks like it's minutes away from half-a-million signatures!
Now over 728,000 signatures! 
Cummings is almost at the Jonathon Aitken level
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:That was Eugene Baz.
My post was about approval ratings.
Whoops ...sorry EC ....and Eugene 
@Eugene's Lair posted:Remember Cummings claiming yesterday that he'd warned of the dangers of coronaviruses last year?
Well: it turns out his blog was actually about biolab security, and the single, specific reference to coronaviruses was only edited-in on April the 14th this year - the day Cummings returned to work after his Durham excursion...
Norty, norty…
Saw this on Huff Post this morning Eugene, I had a kind of Sue Perkins moment when I read it 
Why go back and edit a blog to make it look like you’re the People’s Nostradamus? If you’d predicted a pandemic, why wouldn’t you plan for it? Why wouldn’t you lockdown sooner and spare thousands of lives? It’s a Möbius strip of madness and bullshit.
@Saint posted:GOVE now claiming he's driven to check his eyes
Lying little weasel
The Police should LOOK into this
Is their eyesight good enough? Have they driven enough to be really sure?
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Is their eyesight good enough? Have they driven enough to be really sure?
@Eugene's Lair posted:Now over 728,000 signatures!
Website has crashed for me this morning.!
So want to see if it's got to 1M votes.
For anyone wanting to watch Boris Johnson being questioned this afternoon by the Liaison Committee you can see it via this parliamentlivetv link:
https://www.parliamentlive.tv/...e8-adf7-addfc839ff6d
Meeting starts at 4 pm.
It's also on the BBC Parliament channel.
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
love it Dameee
I found this funny, although it is factual... there's much more, I am going to follow this guy
The week in Tory (Cummings special):
1. Dominic Cummings, one of the few men to have ever been found in contempt of Parliament, moved onto contempt for everything
2. When the story broke, and he was accused of doing things that look bad, he said he didn't care how things looked
3. Then ministers said press outrage meant nothing, only the opinion of the people mattered
4. Then polls showed 52% of people wanted Cummings to resign
5. So Cummings decided to show the public some respect, by turning up 30 minutes late to make his explanation
6. He began by saying he wasn't speaking for the govt, which must be why he was in the Rose Garden of 10 Downing Street
7. Then the self-styled "enemy of the Islington media elite" said his wife, who works in the media, had been ill in their house in Islington
8. But she was only a bit ill, so he popped home, got himself nice and infected, then went back to Downing Street for meetings with lots of vitally important people in the middle of a national crisis
9. But then he got ill too, so then it was suddenly important
10. Sadly he couldn't get childcare in London, even though 3 immediate relatives live within 3 miles of his London home
11. So because he was carrying a virus that can cross a 2 metre distance and kill, he immediately locked himself in a car with his wife and child for 5 hours
12. He then drove 264 miles without stopping in a Land Rover that gets maybe 25 MPG
13. Then the scourge of the metropolitan elites made himself extra-relatable by describing his family's sprawling country estate, multiple houses and idyllic woodlands
14. He explained that he'd warned about a coronavirus years ago in his blog
15. Then it was revealed he actually secretly amended old blogs after he'd returned from Durham
16. And anyway, if he'd warned years ago, why was he so massively unprepared and slow to react?
17. Then he said he was too ill to move for a week
18. But in the middle of that week, presumably with "wonky eyes", he drove his child to the hospital
19. Then he said that to test his "wonky eyes" he put his wife and child in a car and drove 30 miles on public roads
20. Then it was revealed his wife drives, so there was no reason for the "eye test", cos she could have driven them back to London
21. Then it was revealed the "eye test" trip to a local tourist spot took place on his wife's birthday
22. Then cameras filmed as he threw a cup onto the table, smirked and left
23. And then it emerged his wife had written an article during the time in Dunham, describing their experience of being in lockdown in London, which you'd definitely do if you weren't hiding anything
24. A govt scientific advisor said "more people will die" as a result of what Cummings had done.
25. Boris Johnson said he "wouldn't mark Cummings " down for what he'd done.
26. The Attorney General said it was ok to break the law if you were acting on instinct
27. The Health Minister said it was OK to endanger public health if you meant well
28. Johnson said Cummings' "story rings true" because his own eyesight was fine before coronavirus, but now he needs glasses
29. But in an interview with The Telegraph 5 years ago, Johnson said he needed glasses cos he was "blind as a bat"
Oooooo!
Now significant evidence that Boris Johnson went over the heads of govt scientists to change the “Stay at Home” slogan to “Stay Alert” after Boris realised Dominic Cummings’ broken lockdown behavior would come to light.
Ponder the implications of this for a minute.
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
I found this funny, although it is factual...
The week in Tory (Cummings special):
1. Dominic Cummings, one of the few men to have ever been found in contempt of Parliament, moved onto contempt for everything
2. When the story broke, and he was accused of doing things that look bad, he said he didn't care how things looked
3. Then ministers said press outrage meant nothing, only the opinion of the people mattered4. Then polls showed 52% of people wanted Cummings to resign5. So Cummings decided to show the public some respect, by turning up 30 minutes late to make his explanation6. He began by saying he wasn't speaking for the govt, which must be why he was in the Rose Garden of 10 Downing Street7. Then the self-styled "enemy of the Islington media elite" said his wife, who works in the media, had been ill in their house in Islington8. But she was only a bit ill, so he popped home, got himself nice and infected, then went back to Downing Street for meetings with lots of vitally important people in the middle of a national crisis9. But then he got ill too, so then it was suddenly important10. Sadly he couldn't get childcare in London, even though 3 immediate relatives live within 3 miles of his London home11. So because he was carrying a virus that can cross a 2 metre distance and kill, he immediately locked himself in a car with his wife and child for 5 hours12. He then drove 264 miles without stopping in a Land Rover that gets maybe 25 MPG13. Then the scourge of the metropolitan elites made himself extra-relatable by describing his family's sprawling country estate, multiple houses and idyllic woodlands14. He explained that he'd warned about a coronavirus years ago in his blog15. Then it was revealed he actually secretly amended old blogs after he'd returned from Durham16. And anyway, if he'd warned years ago, why was he so massively unprepared and slow to react?17. Then he said he was too ill to move for a week18. But in the middle of that week, presumably with "wonky eyes", he drove his child to the hospital19. Then he said that to test his "wonky eyes" he put his wife and child in a car and drove 30 miles on public roads20. Then it was revealed his wife drives, so there was no reason for the "eye test", cos she could have driven them back to London21. Then it was revealed the "eye test" trip to a local tourist spot took place on his wife's birthday22. Then cameras filmed as he threw a cup onto the table, smirked and left23. And then it emerged his wife had written an article during the time in Dunham, describing their experience of being in lockdown in London, which you'd definitely do if you weren't hiding anything24. A govt scientific advisor said "more people will die" as a result of what Cummings had done.25. Boris Johnson said he "wouldn't mark Cummings " down for what he'd done.26. The Attorney General said it was ok to break the law if you were acting on instinct27. The Health Minister said it was OK to endanger public health if you meant well28. Johnson said Cummings' "story rings true" because his own eyesight was fine before coronavirus, but now he needs glasses29. But in an interview with The Telegraph 5 years ago, Johnson said he needed glasses cos he was "blind as a bat"
Pretty Cummings wasn’t that succinct when he read out his rambling prevarication the other day
@Sprout posted:Oooooo!
Now significant evidence that Boris Johnson went over the heads of govt scientists to change the “Stay at Home” slogan to “Stay Alert” after Boris realised Dominic Cummings’ broken lockdown behavior would come to light.
Ponder the implications of this for a minute.
Haven't seen that evidence yet and will withhold my full reaction till I do, but it's an interesting thought which may explain some things. Unlike "Stay at Home", "Stay Alert" never felt like Cummings' handiwork: as so many pointed out at the time, it doesn't have the same clarity or simplicity.
@El Loro posted:For anyone wanting to watch Boris Johnson being questioned this afternoon by the Liaison Committee you can see it via this parliamentlivetv link:
https://www.parliamentlive.tv/...e8-adf7-addfc839ff6d
Meeting starts at 4 pm.
It's also on the BBC Parliament channel.
Probably too late with this, but it's also live on the BBC News channel.
It's an absolute total car crash. His ratings are gonna tank after this, I'm sure
Please tell me Matt Handcock didn't say if you have been in contact with anyone with C-19 you need to self-isolate for 14 day but other household members don't 
I don't want to be forced to download this track and trace thingy, anything that Cummings had to do with it is not good....
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Please tell me Matt Handcock didn't say if you have been in contact with anyone with C-19 you need to self-isolate for 14 day but other household members don't
I don't want to be forced to download this track and trace thingy, anything that Cummings had to do with it is not good....
Nope nor me
@Moonie posted:Nope nor me
we know he passed on data before...they can stuff it Moonie
@Moonie posted:Okay, a question re the test and trace.
I have read the blurb on it but I still don’t understand how two anonymous people will know if one or the other has been in contact with someone who is infected...
Yep, I am that thick
Two people have the app /loaded. Phones ping as they pass depending on what info g/ment have after a positive or negative test and then from there others are contacted to say they've been in contact with a positive test person, as so it goes on as far as I can gather.
It was on the presser this afternoon, Government can make it mandatory to d/load if they want to but for now they hope the public play along.
@Sprout posted:It was on the presser this afternoon, Government can make it mandatory to d/load if they want to but for now they hope the public play along.
don't care.... I would throw my phone in the loo first
@Saint posted:And if you don't have a smart phone?
Was just about to ask who was going to buy me the smartphone that I will need if they want to make this a mandatory thtng.
@Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:
Was just about to ask who was going to buy me the smartphone that I will need if they want to make this a mandatory thtng.
Hopefully the same person who will buy mine, my husbands and my elderly parents ( god help the person who explains to them how to use it 😂)
Hope it's not made mandatory as mobile phone coverage is poor in much of my house which is why I only have one for emergency use rather than regular use - just about get a 3 G signal.
As for wifi usage, wireless signals through my house are poor for some reason - I have to have the wireless thermostat for the boiler in the room which has the boiler as if the thermostat is elsewehere in the house the signal doesn't get through to the boiler.
(my internet connection for computer use is wired rather than wireless).
@Sprout posted:Two people have the app /loaded. Phones ping as they pass depending on what info g/ment have after a positive or negative test and then from there others are contacted to say they've been in contact with a positive test person, as so it goes on as far as I can gather.
Yep, I understand about the ping thing
But this assumes that person A and person B have been tested. If they have, what makes the magic ping?
Does it work off mobile wi-fi, which I never use or bluetooth which I never use?
Both are reliant on data which I have to pay for, in my case, monthly.........
Pardon me for being so thick, once again. Technology isn’t and never will be my strongest point
Whatever the government suggest regarding the app, I shall evaluate that information and make a decision based instinct. 
This may require me to drive to Newcastle to avoid installing the app.
@Moonie They can use bluetooth which does not cost anything apart from battery power. Two devices can communicate with each other via the installed app and exchange information relating to C-19 contact anonymously (well, we would hope anonymously).
@Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Whatever the government suggest regarding the app, I shall evaluate that information and make a decision based instinct.
This may require me to drive to Newcastle to avoid installing the app.
Yes, and I might have get a taxi down south to see my son to find out how the work the darn thing