One big (well co-ordinated) global hoax, eh? And elaborate, Building hospitals, staging unattended funerals, clearing streets of vehicles and people, setting up ward full of people on ventilators etc. 
Roxan posted:Over here there are still a lot of people who still think this is fake news thanks to you know who.
I'm concerned for all our FMs, of course, but I do worry about you and all our other American friends. Apparently gun shops are now considered "essential businesses" over there... 
Roxan posted:Over here there are still a lot of people who still think this is fake news thanks to you know who.
The thing is that because Trump's more fanatical supporters can't/won't acknowledge his inconsistencies, they can find themselves surprisingly out of step with him, and that's what's happening here. Trump now genuinely appears to be taking the epidemic seriously. I haven't been able to confirm it, but I heard a story that one of his friends who's younger and fitter than him caught coronavirus and is now in a coma, and that rather changed his perspective on things...
That said, he still can't resist playing games: he's now talking about saving a "million" Americans from the disease - a figure five times that of the worst-case scenario described by Dr Fauci. Critics are suggesting he's touting this figure so that when the final total of deaths is lower, he can claim the credit for keeping it down...
Amythist posted:Blaming Chinese meat markets is not the answer to preventing further virus pandemics. Climate change has meant that globally vast areas of farmland have been damaged by drought and floods beyond repair, So wilderness/forests are being torn down or burnt to make more farmland which makes the barrier between humans and wild animals almost invisible. Their habitat is disappearing which makes them much more available .Poverty and global warming are by products of the current system .If we are to survive and feed ourselves safely we need to change the system.
I agree with you wholeheartedly - the health of the planet needs our long term care.
But if simple practices can be proven as toxic .... they have to stop
Saint posted:Amythist posted:Blaming Chinese meat markets is not the answer to preventing further virus pandemics. Climate change has meant that globally vast areas of farmland have been damaged by drought and floods beyond repair, So wilderness/forests are being torn down or burnt to make more farmland which makes the barrier between humans and wild animals almost invisible. Their habitat is disappearing which makes them much more available .Poverty and global warming are by products of the current system .If we are to survive and feed ourselves safely we need to change the system.
I agree with you wholeheartedly - the health of the planet needs our long term care.
But if simple practices can be proven as toxic .... they have to stop
Horrible practices aren't they..and yes it would be good to stop them....and I would love to stop people chucking their pets out on the street because they think they will get CV from. them
I think the 'saving millions' is to do with the apparent modelling that said that if the US did nothing then over a million would die. So now that he's ordered mitigation strategies the modelling says 100,000 to 200.000 he's patting himself on the back for 'saving' all those people, He forgets, or conveniently ignores, the fact that if people don't comply with said mitigation strategies then the 'modelling' figures will/could be hopelessly inaccurate.
Well - our Garden Waste collection has gone.
Has yours?
Saint posted:Well - our Garden Waste collection has gone.
Has yours?
Last time it was collected OK. It's due again on Friday, I'll give you an update on it soon after! 
My Council has stopped all recycling collections for the foreseeable.
Everything has to go in the general waste bin and it will be collected weekly, instead of three weekly.
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Saint posted:So did you all observe the 8pm round of applause for our amazing NHS staff?
Well no, but that was because I didn't know about it until after it was all over.
How did I miss hearing about it in advance????
As a heads-up-up for anyone who didn't already know:
Another one is planned for tonight at 8pm.
It appears to be intended as a weekly thing,
Just heard on the news that Eddie Large has died from coronavirus at the age 78. I knew he had a heart transplant some years back, and that appears to have been a contributing factor.
Funnily enough, I was thinking about him recently. I heard some years back that he and Syd Little had had a falling-out, however I saw them together on a C5 show a week or so ago. it sounds like they were still friends at the end...
Yogi19 posted:My Council has stopped all recycling collections for the foreseeable.
Everything has to go in the general waste bin and it will be collected weekly, instead of three weekly.
So far we are getting waste and recycling collected but I guess it’s just a matter of time before they do the same here too Yogi.
Roxan posted:Dr Anthony Fauci, top expert in infectious diseases and the face of the response to the Coronavirus over here, has been receiving a significant number of death threats. No words.
Just been reading about that. 
Apparently it's the QAnon mob, who think Fauci is spreading "fear porn" and is a "Deep State plant". 
Their main "evidence" is that he once wrote an email supporting Hillary Clinton.
The problem is that - as I've said before - they and other Trump-supporting science-deniers haven't grasped that Trump's just performed a massive U-turn (or "reverse ferret", as Fleet Street puts it), and they're now totally out-of-step with the guy they supposedly support...
Social Distancing.
I'm very good at it, making myself keep the appropriate distance between other shoppers in the supermarket. BUT. I can't legislated for someone walking round the next isle, their face firmly in their mobile, not looking where they are going. Man! did I want to grab that mobile device and turn it into 10's of thousands of spare parts!!! 
Also, the very sensible Chinese girl who decided to drop her basket at the junction of two isles, in the middle of a 2m marked out box, again with her face stuck in her phone, blocking the way for two others. Grrrrrrrr. PEOPLE !!!!
ASDA are not letting customers update their basket
I made a preliminary order of 10 items at midnight just to get my slot with a view to making my full order today
And now it looks like i'm going to get a delivery of ten items and nothing more
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
Social Distancing.
I'm very good at it, making myself keep the appropriate distance between other shoppers in the supermarket. BUT. I can't legislated for someone walking round the next isle, their face firmly in their mobile, not looking where they are going. Man! did I want to grab that mobile device and turn it into 10's of thousands of spare parts!!!
Also, the very sensible Chinese girl who decided to drop her basket at the junction of two isles, in the middle of a 2m marked out box, again with her face stuck in her phone, blocking the way for two others. Grrrrrrrr. PEOPLE !!!!
Think of it like this EC, that is two people, how many more are 'towing the line' that never caught your attention?.... never forget to send them a friendly smile across the aisles...….xxx
Saint posted:ASDA are not letting customers update their basket
I made a preliminary order of 10 items at midnight just to get my slot with a view to making my full order today
And now it looks like i'm going to get a delivery of ten items and nothing more
You can only update in the 2 days before delivery and the cut off is 10pm the day before. And they only want you to update it once as far as I can see.
Go into help and have a good look at everything.
velvet donkey posted:Saint posted:ASDA are not letting customers update their basket
I made a preliminary order of 10 items at midnight just to get my slot with a view to making my full order today
And now it looks like i'm going to get a delivery of ten items and nothing more
You can only update in the 2 days before delivery and the cut off is 10pm the day before. And they only want you to update it once as far as I can see.
Go into help and have a good look at everything.
Yes i can see that now!!
Thank you so much Velvet - you've ended days of worry until it would have dawned on my idiot mind.
Cheers brother 
@velvet donkey hope you're hanging on in there - tis weird times
Hold onto your soul - we gotta long way to go
Saint posted:@velvet donkey hope you're hanging on in there - tis weird times
Hold onto your soul - we gotta long way to go
You too my friend. Keep your eye on the ball - this is gonna last 
Eugene's Lair posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Saint posted:So did you all observe the 8pm round of applause for our amazing NHS staff?
Well no, but that was because I didn't know about it until after it was all over.
How did I miss hearing about it in advance????
As a heads-up-up for anyone who didn't already know:
Another one is planned for tonight at 8pm.
It appears to be intended as a weekly thing,
Even more neighbours were applauding tonight
A police officer was spat at and a second officer was racially abused when officers broke up a house party.
We need a strong message when dealing with imbeciles like this, a straight 10 years in prison.
Story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-...live-reporting-story
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
A police officer was spat at and a second officer was racially abused when officers broke up a house party.
We need a strong message when dealing with imbeciles like this, a straight 10 years in prison.
Story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-...live-reporting-story
My daughter works in a small supermarket which often has shoplifters, earlier this week when she confronted one he coughed at her, absolute scumbag
*Breaking News*
The Queen is to broadcast to the nation on Sunday evening at 8pm.
Apparently it will be recorded, not live.
No doubt we'll get more details closer to the event...
Ramp it up. Ramping up...yeah sure. The new catchphrase to convince us black is white. Black is black Johnson, Hancock, Gove et all. And all the six figure salaried clueless experts and advisors.
It's all jam the morra when we want jam today. And should have had it yesterday if anyone running this show had a clue what they're doing.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows this is unforgiveable. And deeply tragic. Feck the economy!
The Peter Principle.
Applies to the whole Cabinet, but none moreso than one Matthew Hancock.
jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
machel posted:Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
A police officer was spat at and a second officer was racially abused when officers broke up a house party.
We need a strong message when dealing with imbeciles like this, a straight 10 years in prison.
Story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-...live-reporting-story
My daughter works in a small supermarket which often has shoplifters, earlier this week when she confronted one he coughed at her, absolute scumbag
Dreadful Machel.
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
Sprout posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
They say you can still be contagious two weeks after you appear to recover 
Basically they know nothing about it. That two metre rule was and is just too random. It's getting blown out the water now.
velvet donkey posted:Sprout posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
They say you can still be contagious two weeks after you appear to recover
So someone's taking us for mugs eh? I suggest this whole shitshow of a government are.....
velvet donkey posted:Basically they know nothing about it. That two metre rule was and is just too random. It's getting blown out the water now.
They have no earthly clue and are making it up as they go along
velvet donkey posted:Sprout posted:Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:jUST SEEN Johnson SAYING HE'S STILL SELF ISOLATING.
Looked to me like he was struggling not to laugh!
Makes a mockery of Hancock being out and on the telly and opening up wards and thingies, doesn't it? hmmm *strokes chin*
They say you can still be contagious two weeks after you appear to recover
Please watch the video i posted of the Korean doctor talking about this.
He said we should all be wearing masks when we go out too
SK are so much smarter than us.
It's embarrassing. Clueless R Us.
Not a franchise to be proud of.
I’ve got as much reason to fear this virus as everyone else - compromised immune system; husband with underlying heath condition; two sons and a DiL are key workers; and parents in their 80’s with health conditions.
I know we are in a terrifying situation - this is a new and deadly virus and, as yet, there is no definitive, correct way of dealing with it. Even the most eminent scientists in the field of flu and respiratory disease have given conflicting advice - and the advice will change as more things are learned. We are on a huge learning curve with this virus and mistakes will be made but that doesn’t mean that those in charge aren’t doing what they think is best.
I really hope people won’t use this tragic situation for political point scoring and government bashing - even opposition politicians aren’t doing that - as it would be contemptible, IMO.
velvet donkey posted:After months we are still sailing blindfold into this. Act now, even though it's far too late - that horse has bolted. Open borders with people from all over walking through airports unchecked for starters. No thermometers, hand gel or info. Nothing. No info on self-quarantine for Italians or Iranians. Where's the crowd control as in Europe? If you think the NHS is coping with this dream on.
They know how this is heading. Hancock really struggled this morning - you'd think you were about to pull all his teeth. He's a joke like Johnson and the rest of them. This is life v money/economy and this bunch of shysters are going to choose money. It's frightening, completely inept and criminal.
What part of that do you disagree with Yogi? Posted 1st March.
Our borders are still not closed.
velvet donkey posted:velvet donkey posted:After months we are still sailing blindfold into this. Act now, even though it's far too late - that horse has bolted. Open borders with people from all over walking through airports unchecked for starters. No thermometers, hand gel or info. Nothing. No info on self-quarantine for Italians or Iranians. Where's the crowd control as in Europe? If you think the NHS is coping with this dream on.
They know how this is heading. Hancock really struggled this morning - you'd think you were about to pull all his teeth. He's a joke like Johnson and the rest of them. This is life v money/economy and this bunch of shysters are going to choose money. It's frightening, completely inept and criminal.
What part of that do you disagree with Yogi? Posted 1st March.
Our borders are still not closed.
“The WHO criticized countries that implemented blanket travel bans, and Dr. Mike Ryan, director of the WHO's Health Emergencies Program, said during a Friday press conference that they will do "nothing to protect individual states." “
I, personally, would like to see our borders closed but what do you do when WHO says it will do nothing to protect individual states/countries.
