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Originally posted by vrmaryport:
I don't think he liked freddie originally, but he grew to like him.


This...in contrast to me who started off thinking freddie was ok then couldnt wait to see the back of him.

It is natural for opinions to change as you get to know people....it is unnatural to hold onto our first impression and refuse to acknowledge it may have been wrong.
fz
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Originally posted by fz:
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Originally posted by vrmaryport:
I don't think he liked freddie originally, but he grew to like him.


It is natural for opinions to change as you get to know people....it is unnatural to hold onto our first impression and refuse to acknowledge it may have been wrong.


Not if you dont believe you were wrong.
Videostar
I think Siavash has grown as a person and some of the superficiality has gone. I think he may have thought Freddie to be an uncool odd bod that he wouldn't want to hang out with in case it rubbed off on him and made him look bad, at first, but he changed. He does genuinely like Freddie. Can you imagine if they had wanted to take his clothes away at the beginning? I don't think he would have agreed then, he didn't even want people touching them.
Summer_Breeze
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Wasn't his cup of tea at first but he grew to like him, similarly with Marcus...shame neither of them really liked him back


Nah! Disagree there. No love lost between Marcus or Siavash... they both completely had each others number... and whilst I wouldn't say it was hate... I think there was a lot of mental 'grrrrrr ing' on both sides.

Sooooops Valentine Hug
Dirtyprettygirlthing
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Originally posted by Videostar:
I wont argue with what anyone says, im just interested in what you all think.

I dont think he did, I go back to his bus stop chat with Karly and Lisa, you know the chat I mean. Wink


Are you referring to when Siavash said he didn't really want to talk to Freddie but felt obliged to (or words to that effect) ?
Comrade Ogilvy
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by fz:
quote:
Originally posted by vrmaryport:
I don't think he liked freddie originally, but he grew to like him.


It is natural for opinions to change as you get to know people....it is unnatural to hold onto our first impression and refuse to acknowledge it may have been wrong.


Not if you dont believe you were wrong.


Which is why I said " may have been wrong"...
fz
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
quote:
Originally posted by Videostar:
I wont argue with what anyone says, im just interested in what you all think.

I dont think he did, I go back to his bus stop chat with Karly and Lisa, you know the chat I mean. Wink


Are you referring to when Siavash said he didn't really want to talk to Freddie but felt obliged to (or words to that effect) ?


Yes, thats the one.

I could never get over that fully. Shake Head
Videostar
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Wasn't his cup of tea at first but he grew to like him, similarly with Marcus...shame neither of them really liked him back


Freddie likes Siavash alot.


Yes and Siavash liked Freddie a lot. One thing that sticks in my mind was when Bea was being at her vilest and Freddie was on his own upset in the bedroom, Siavash came in held his hand and comforted him.
Senora Reyes
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
quote:
Originally posted by Videostar:
I wont argue with what anyone says, im just interested in what you all think.

I dont think he did, I go back to his bus stop chat with Karly and Lisa, you know the chat I mean. Wink


Are you referring to when Siavash said he didn't really want to talk to Freddie but felt obliged to (or words to that effect) ?


Awful lot of water passed under the bridge since then
FM
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Wasn't his cup of tea at first but he grew to like him, similarly with Marcus...shame neither of them really liked him back


Freddie likes Siavash alot.


Wants Rodrigo to win!


That hardly means he doesn't like him.

He was very warming about Siavash in his interview.
Videostar
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by Videostar:


Not if you dont believe you were wrong.


Thought that you weren' going to argue!


Sorry, force of habbit. Ninja


Lol...knew you wouldn't be able to resist!

You drew me out of hiding. Mad Laugh
Videostar
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
quote:
Originally posted by Videostar:
I wont argue with what anyone says, im just interested in what you all think.

I dont think he did, I go back to his bus stop chat with Karly and Lisa, you know the chat I mean. Wink


Are you referring to when Siavash said he didn't really want to talk to Freddie but felt obliged to (or words to that effect) ?


Yes, thats the one.

I could never get over that fully. Shake Head


Me neither tbh, was very disapointing.
Comrade Ogilvy
I remember some FMs wanting the Three Amigos to occupy the top 3 places on finale night; but i don't think this was ever a realistic likelihood. The problem with the perceived individuals was that they had conflicting ideas (relating to female housemates, for instance), and what cemented any allegiance were late night discussions - many of which were situations of convenience (everyone else was in another group), rather than deep friendship or loyalty. Post show; i could see Siavash being closer to Sophie than to Freddie, as an example.
Cold Sweat
I am one of those who thinks Siavash makes too many misjudgments and gets too many things wrong.
He expounds like a wise philosopher, but he seems very UNwise to me.
I think he does too many things for attention and effect (as his wardrobe also demonstrates.)
I think most of his views are pretty shallow and tenuous and expedient (although it backfires when he is wrong so often.)
And I think this is carried through into his relationships with people. His relationship with Cairon, his defence of Freddie, his association with Noirin, don`t seem to have genuine depth to me.
I wouldn`t put much trust in Siavash.
He may have liked Freddie `for the moment`.
But I think of Siavash more as a `fair weather friend` to others, and when expedient he would move on.
(I also find him dull.)
brisket
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Originally posted by brisket:
I am one of those who thinks Siavash makes too many misjudgments and gets too many things wrong.
He expounds like a wise philosopher, but he seems very UNwise to me.
I think he does too many things for attention and effect (as his wardrobe also demonstrates.)
I think most of his views are pretty shallow and tenuous and expedient (although it backfires when he is wrong so often.)
And I think this is carried through into his relationships with people. His relationship with Cairon, his defence of Freddie, his association with Noirin, don`t seem to have genuine depth to me.
I wouldn`t put much trust in Siavash.
He may have liked Freddie `for the moment`.
But I think of Siavash more as a `fair weather friend` to others, and when expedient he would move on.
(I also find him dull.)


You are not alone Brisket... pretty much says it for me too.
Dirtyprettygirlthing
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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
quote:
Originally posted by brisket:
I am one of those who thinks Siavash makes too many misjudgments and gets too many things wrong.
He expounds like a wise philosopher, but he seems very UNwise to me.
I think he does too many things for attention and effect (as his wardrobe also demonstrates.)
I think most of his views are pretty shallow and tenuous and expedient (although it backfires when he is wrong so often.)
And I think this is carried through into his relationships with people. His relationship with Cairon, his defence of Freddie, his association with Noirin, don`t seem to have genuine depth to me.
I wouldn`t put much trust in Siavash.
He may have liked Freddie `for the moment`.
But I think of Siavash more as a `fair weather friend` to others, and when expedient he would move on.
(I also find him dull.)


You are not alone Brisket... pretty much says it for me too.
And me.
Marguerita
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Originally posted by Videostar:

Thought that you weren' going to argue!


Sorry, force of habbit. Ninja[/QUOTE]

Lol...knew you wouldn't be able to resist![/QUOTE]
You drew me out of hiding. Mad Laugh[/QUOTE]

Here's a challenge: in the next 24 hrs agree with something that a fan of a hm you don't like says....prize to be determined LOL
FM
quote:
Originally posted by brisket:
I am one of those who thinks Siavash makes too many misjudgments and gets too many things wrong.
He expounds like a wise philosopher, but he seems very UNwise to me.
I think he does too many things for attention and effect (as his wardrobe also demonstrates.)
I think most of his views are pretty shallow and tenuous and expedient (although it backfires when he is wrong so often.)
And I think this is carried through into his relationships with people. His relationship with Cairon, his defence of Freddie, his association with Noirin, don`t seem to have genuine depth to me.
I wouldn`t put much trust in Siavash.
He may have liked Freddie `for the moment`.
But I think of Siavash more as a `fair weather friend` to others, and when expedient he would move on.
(I also find him dull.)


Totally agree Brisket. Also I think Freddie probably embarrassed him but Siavash is the type of person who would show humanity to anyone being bullied or in distress.
Jeggo (Ben`s Buddy/Member of JJ`s LS]
Siavash is the cat who walks alone. He plays his game, and he plays it well. He has not been a friend to anyone and I don't think he has made a lasting friendship in there. That's my opinion.

He will probably win. It will probably suit BB for him to win. They have edited out his spitting since the first few weeks, although with someone like Siavash that will be a lifelong habit. I can see him posing in exotic outfits in all the mags, appearing on TV. I just cannot like the guy.
squiggle
quote:
Originally posted by Videostar:
quote:
Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Wasn't his cup of tea at first but he grew to like him, similarly with Marcus...shame neither of them really liked him back


Freddie likes Siavash alot.


That's because Freddie is so nice. Freddie likes people, he even manages to see the nice side of Lisa Roll Eyes
squiggle
I think Siavash liked Freddie

I thought at the time that the "bus stop conversation" was a typically Siavash moment. He was not dissing Freddie at all but in a typically evasive non-confrontational way pointing out that the others were being mean to him.
I like Siavash. He's no hero but, unlike most of this year's lot, he's a nice guy.
I know you're all going to bounce out of the ether and mention the girlfriend now. But come on, she seems pretty flakey to me.
riversider
quote:
Originally posted by brisket:
I am one of those who thinks Siavash makes too many misjudgments and gets too many things wrong.
He expounds like a wise philosopher, but he seems very UNwise to me.
I think he does too many things for attention and effect (as his wardrobe also demonstrates.)
I think most of his views are pretty shallow and tenuous and expedient (although it backfires when he is wrong so often.)
And I think this is carried through into his relationships with people. His relationship with Cairon, his defence of Freddie, his association with Noirin, don`t seem to have genuine depth to me.
I wouldn`t put much trust in Siavash.
He may have liked Freddie `for the moment`.
But I think of Siavash more as a `fair weather friend` to others, and when expedient he would move on.
(I also find him dull.)

Thumbs Up Sums it up for me too.
F
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Originally posted by Ņ•ÏÎđ∂Ņ”ŅÐžÏƒÎ·ÐšŅ”Îģ:
Siavash stood tall and defended Freddie's name after he was evicted. The likes of Lisa, Bea and Marcus were having a good old bitch about him.

That's all that matters to me. When it came to the crunch, only Siavash cared...




Definetly he spoke out in defence of Freddie Nod Clapping.
darloboy (Play The Game!)
Siavash probably wasn't keen on Freddie in there at first, it does take time to get to know people but maybe the more he spoke to Freddie he saw qualities that he liked which changed his opinion. When they became friends they had lots in common and were loyal to one another, Freddie stuck up for him during Rabbitgate so Siavash never forgot that and during the bitchfest that went on after Freddie left he spoke out so I would say he was a good friend to Freddie Smiler.
darloboy (Play The Game!)

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