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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
Thanks OHG - god, I wish I'd seen that. Go Marcus! I don't want him to leave, and for all his 'I want to go' statements, whilst I'm sure he thinks he means it, I also think he'll be secretly pleased if he's kept in.

hehe it aint UP TO HIM, BB NEEDS him now (we should do a poster) he owes it to US and to FRED,
he HAS to stay and slay the dragon NO ONE ELSE CAN,

Two points for all those who now think Freddie should go instead:

1) Marcus wants to go.
2) Bea (and most other HMs) want Freddie to go.

If Freddie goes, Bea will take it as a personal vindication. She's pretty much said so.
Charlie mentioned in passing last night (LF) the reason why Freddie's getting so much abuse - because they know he's popular outside. They're doing this because they see it as the only way they can get at him.

Freddie's a lot stronger than even a lot of his fans give him credit for: don't let the bad guys get their way here.

How ironic the the grand duchess of righteousness and good, conspired with sleazebag geordie to STEAL a can of booze, and a packet of tea from Freddie's drawer, from right under his nose while he slept. Marcus cottoned on to them, and they had to sneak it all back. Love him or not, Marcus was Freddie's champion last night, and miss prissy pants was well and truly shot down in flames. As for Charlie......he's a wet lettuce! Really hope there are some videos of last night's LF around to-day, as everybody should see exactly what went on.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
Thanks OHG - god, I wish I'd seen that. Go Marcus! I don't want him to leave, and for all his 'I want to go' statements, whilst I'm sure he thinks he means it, I also think he'll be secretly pleased if he's kept in.

hehe it aint UP TO HIM, BB NEEDS him now (we should do a poster) he owes it to US and to FRED,
he HAS to stay and slay the dragon NO ONE ELSE CAN,

I'll be doing my bit - have decided I'm definitely chucking a few votes the way of the Fredster. ( I know you don't vote, OHG, but your name will be on a couple! )

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
If Marcus really wanted to go he would walk being a rebel and all that that suggests to me he wants to stay.

NO HE WOULDNT, he has ALWAYS said he WILL NOT WALK "cowards and wankers walk" he wants to be VOTED OUT,
well fine go ahead and vote him out...then sit back and watch team lisa gloat all the way to the final unopposed, and watch them destroy Fred,
he is the ONLY one in there who has any chance of stopping that from happening,
love him or hate him, it doesnt change the truth, if HE leaves Friday when the Marcus haters have finished cheering and high fiveing each other, they will suddenly look around and realise LISA has won,

Team nasty are Marcus Freddie Bea ,they were the nasty trio when they were together much worse than the rest.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
NO HE WOULDNT, he has ALWAYS said he WILL NOT WALK "cowards and wankers walk" he wants to be VOTED OUT,
well fine go ahead and vote him out...then sit back and watch team lisa gloat all the way to the final unopposed, and watch them destroy Fred,

You're right that Marcus won't walk.
As for you're scenario if Marcus stays: in what way would it be any different than if Freddie stays? Marcus cannot out-vote team Lisa any more than Freddie can.

The only difference would be that team Lisa woul be happier if Freddie goes, because they see him as the bigger threat.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
If Marcus really wanted to go he would walk being a rebel and all that that suggests to me he wants to stay.

NO HE WOULDNT, he has ALWAYS said he WILL NOT WALK "cowards and wankers walk" he wants to be VOTED OUT,
well fine go ahead and vote him out...then sit back and watch team lisa gloat all the way to the final unopposed, and watch them destroy Fred,
he is the ONLY one in there who has any chance of stopping that from happening,
love him or hate him, it doesnt change the truth, if HE leaves Friday when the Marcus haters have finished cheering and high fiveing each other, they will suddenly look around and realise LISA has won,

Whoever I spend my money voting out will be my choice, if he stays which looks likely I guarantee you Marcus and Siavash will turn on each other Marcus has already done so twice with Siavash behind his back, he has no loyalty I dont care who stays if you read my post properly I said I did not do the poll.

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
Team nasty are Marcus Freddie Bea ,they were the nasty trio when they were together much worse than the rest.

That's true, Margeurita; you can also add Siavash to the group.

People on here, particularly the Freddie fans, have selective memories, as well as selective hearing. I've just read a couple of pages of the Freddie Fan Club thread . . . such drivel! Don't these people have lives outside of BB? They take it all far too seriously.

Having said that, I do agree with the Marcus fans in their defence of him - a much worthier HM than Freddie, or many of the others, imo.

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Originally posted by Eugene's Lair:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
NO HE WOULDNT, he has ALWAYS said he WILL NOT WALK "cowards and wankers walk" he wants to be VOTED OUT,
well fine go ahead and vote him out...then sit back and watch team lisa gloat all the way to the final unopposed, and watch them destroy Fred,

You're right that Marcus won't walk.
As for you're scenario if Marcus stays: in what way would it be any different than if Freddie stays? Marcus cannot out-vote team Lisa any more than Freddie can.

The only difference would be that team Lisa woul be happier if Freddie goes, because they see him as the bigger threat.

who ever stays will be up, against Siavash next week,
thats not the issue the public decide WHO GOES though,
Fred...OR Marcus, which of those 2 is better equiped to stand up to a full week or 2 of attacks?
dont know if you saw what happened last night or even if they will show it or if there are any videos of it about,
but if you DO get to watch it, ONE thing...ignore Marcus Ignore Bea WATCH Charlie, watch how he smiles n simpers n looks dumb when Marcus and Bea are going at it,
THEN watch him transform into "macho man" when Fred appears, see how he speaks to Fred,
oh AND he accused Fred of "using his intelligence"...I think thats where ALL of their problems with Fred lie, a mile wide resentment streak,...like in their twisted logic, using your "intelligence" isnt fair,!!! its cheating in some way,
they WILL be like a pack of dogs as SOON as Marcus is out of the way, and Fred doesnt stand a chance, AND as they all seem to know that Fred is/was the favourite, and they are all walking around thinking its a foregone conclusion that Marcus wont stay up against Fred,...then take into account last night row,..what message would THAT give team Lisa?
the PUBLIC want MARCUS to stay, why? because they DONT LIKE YOU,

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Originally posted by Marguerita:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
If Marcus really wanted to go he would walk being a rebel and all that that suggests to me he wants to stay.

NO HE WOULDNT, he has ALWAYS said he WILL NOT WALK "cowards and wankers walk" he wants to be VOTED OUT,
well fine go ahead and vote him out...then sit back and watch team lisa gloat all the way to the final unopposed, and watch them destroy Fred,
he is the ONLY one in there who has any chance of stopping that from happening,
love him or hate him, it doesnt change the truth, if HE leaves Friday when the Marcus haters have finished cheering and high fiveing each other, they will suddenly look around and realise LISA has won,

Whoever I spend my money voting out will be my choice, if he stays which looks likely I guarantee you Marcus and Siavash will turn on each other Marcus has already done so twice with Siavash behind his back, he has no loyalty I dont care who stays if you read my post properly I said I did not do the poll.

he has said quite openly and to his face that he doesnt trust Siavash and that he is NOT in any "group gang or anything like that, I am me I am Marcus I speak for me and no one else"

AND going on what I have seen of Siavash I wouldnt trust him as far as I could spit him,
he was VERY loyal towards Fred last night, because he TRUSTS Fred,
he has never said he trusts Siavash he has even said something along the lines of "I will trust you when you show me I CAN trust you"
and of course its YOUR choice to spen YOUR money how ever you wish, sorry if I gave you the impression that I said otherwise,
personaly I wouldnt vote if it was FREE, not after how they have treated their fans,
I, like everyone else here, am only saying how I see things,

Freddie to go

Marcus to go still.

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
Marcus to go still.

Darlo mate if he stays they will rip him to shreds, and I wouldnt be supprised if he ends up walking, I was all for Marcus going cause he want to go,...but seriously, if we want team Lisa to have a fight on their hands Marcus has to stay,
if he goes, team lisa have won,

I still want Marcus to go out of those two but feel its a shame cos he is one of the better housemates

I watched it last night and thought Marcus was brilliant but in saying that so was she. It was tit for tat. She didn't let him away with anything. Why does Marcus feel he can point out everyone's faults and failings and think it's alright?
I also thought Charli was right telling Freddie to go back to bed. Freddie was having a panic attack and it didn't need to get any worse.
I don't want either of them to go even though I dislike Marcus. I hope Marcus stays but only for the war that will ensue between him and Bea.

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Originally posted by Tayto:
I watched it last night and thought Marcus was brilliant but in saying that so was she. It was tit for tat. She didn't let him away with anything. Why does Marcus feel he can point out everyone's faults and failings and think it's alright?
I also thought Charli was right telling Freddie to go back to bed. Freddie was having a panic attack and it didn't need to get any worse.
I don't want either of them to go even though I dislike Marcus. I hope Marcus stays but only for the war that will ensue between him and Bea.

do you think Charlie was right when he told Fred in front of every one to "leave my stuff alone (over the towel) please just respect my stuff"

and then last night the sneaky little bastard STEALS Freds beer, then YELLS at him to go back to bed and stop "ganging up" on Bea, even though Fred hadnt said a word yet?

I really don't want either Freddy or Marcus to go, but after last night I want Marcus to stay, Freddie's time is unfortunately up...he's not coping well

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
I watched it last night and thought Marcus was brilliant but in saying that so was she. It was tit for tat. She didn't let him away with anything. Why does Marcus feel he can point out everyone's faults and failings and think it's alright?
I also thought Charli was right telling Freddie to go back to bed. Freddie was having a panic attack and it didn't need to get any worse.
I don't want either of them to go even though I dislike Marcus. I hope Marcus stays but only for the war that will ensue between him and Bea.

do you think Charlie was right when he told Fred in front of every one to "leave my stuff alone (over the towel) please just respect my stuff"

and then last night the sneaky little bastard STEALS Freds beer, then YELLS at him to go back to bed and stop "ganging up" on Bea, even though Fred hadnt said a word yet?

Charlie didn't tell him to go back to bed because he was having a panic attack and he was concerned , all Charlie was concerned with was having a go at Freddie, any excuse would've done!

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
I watched it last night and thought Marcus was brilliant but in saying that so was she. It was tit for tat. She didn't let him away with anything. Why does Marcus feel he can point out everyone's faults and failings and think it's alright?
I also thought Charli was right telling Freddie to go back to bed. Freddie was having a panic attack and it didn't need to get any worse.
I don't want either of them to go even though I dislike Marcus. I hope Marcus stays but only for the war that will ensue between him and Bea.

do you think Charlie was right when he told Fred in front of every one to "leave my stuff alone (over the towel) please just respect my stuff"

and then last night the sneaky little bastard STEALS Freds beer, then YELLS at him to go back to bed and stop "ganging up" on Bea, even though Fred hadnt said a word yet?

Charlie didn't tell him to go back to bed because he was having a panic attack and he was concerned , all Charlie was concerned with was having a go at Freddie, any excuse would've done!

he is a bloody coward, he never misses a chance ot get all "hard man" with Fred yet simpers like a little girl when talking to Marcus,
with him Bea Lisa Dave and Sophie ALL on his case poor Fred would be torn to pieces next week, I bet "that" lot cant WAIT for Marcus to be out of the way so they can start "operation break Freddy"
He aint built of the right "stuff" to take em on, Marcus on the other hand......

Unfortunately we can't get rid of bloody Charlie, this weeks vote is a travesty..I'm still fuming about it

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
I watched it last night and thought Marcus was brilliant but in saying that so was she. It was tit for tat. She didn't let him away with anything. Why does Marcus feel he can point out everyone's faults and failings and think it's alright?
I also thought Charli was right telling Freddie to go back to bed. Freddie was having a panic attack and it didn't need to get any worse.
I don't want either of them to go even though I dislike Marcus. I hope Marcus stays but only for the war that will ensue between him and Bea.

do you think Charlie was right when he told Fred in front of every one to "leave my stuff alone (over the towel) please just respect my stuff"

and then last night the sneaky little bastard STEALS Freds beer, then YELLS at him to go back to bed and stop "ganging up" on Bea, even though Fred hadnt said a word yet?

No OHG I don't. I don't like Charli all that much but I saw it for what it was last night. Freddie laughed in the bedroom Charli heard him. Then Freddie came out all fired up. Charli said leave her alone because he though Freddie was going to say something to her. I think Charli was right not to make it any worse.
Then Freddie said he was having a panic attack and his heart was going thump thump. If Freddie is as innocent as is being said he wouldn't have laughed out loud and have got out of bed. He was fuming you can't deny that.
I have always liked Freddie but anyone watching can see that he is not the same Freddie we all fell for in the first few weeks. I'm with Bea on that one - only that one by the way. I don't like her at all.

I'm torn if Marcus stayed then Lisa and Bea would be so smug they have managed to get rid of Freddie. If Freddie stays then to see their faces would be brilliant and also to send a message their behaviour is not liked by us. Marcus is able to take them all on by his own, Freddie is an easy target to single out so he would only have Siavash to rely on if they all gang up again so it's a win-lose situation.

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Originally posted by Tayto:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
I watched it last night and thought Marcus was brilliant but in saying that so was she. It was tit for tat. She didn't let him away with anything. Why does Marcus feel he can point out everyone's faults and failings and think it's alright?
I also thought Charli was right telling Freddie to go back to bed. Freddie was having a panic attack and it didn't need to get any worse.
I don't want either of them to go even though I dislike Marcus. I hope Marcus stays but only for the war that will ensue between him and Bea.

do you think Charlie was right when he told Fred in front of every one to "leave my stuff alone (over the towel) please just respect my stuff"

and then last night the sneaky little bastard STEALS Freds beer, then YELLS at him to go back to bed and stop "ganging up" on Bea, even though Fred hadnt said a word yet?

No OHG I don't. I don't like Charli all that much but I saw it for what it was last night. Freddie laughed in the bedroom Charli heard him. Then Freddie came out all fired up. Charli said leave her alone because he though Freddie was going to say something to her. I think Charli was right not to make it any worse.
Then Freddie said he was having a panic attack and his heart was going thump thump. If Freddie is as innocent as is being said he wouldn't have laughed out loud and have got out of bed. He was fuming you can't deny that.
I have always liked Freddie but anyone watching can see that he is not the same Freddie we all fell for in the first few weeks. I'm with Bea on that one - only that one by the way. I don't like her at all.

I think he was laughing at the irony of some of the things Bea was saying, and NOT because she was upset, but we will never know cause he was jumped on by Charlie before he could say anything,

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
I'm torn if Marcus stayed then Lisa and Bea would be so smug they have managed to get rid of Freddie. If Freddie stays then to see their faces would be brilliant and also to send a message their behaviour is not liked by us. Marcus is able to take them all on by his own, Freddie is an easy target to single out so he would only have Siavash to rely on if they all gang up again so it's a win-lose situation.

thats the main point though Darlo ya have to think with ya head and not ya heart right now, Fred is a GREAT HM, and I would have NO problem with him staying and going on to win it,
BUT I really dont think he can take team bastards on in the way Marcus could, also ALL OF THEM excpect Marcus to go, and are probably just waiting for him to "be out of the way" so that they can get to work on Fred in earnest, I will make a prediction, within 2 DAYS of Marcus going ONE of team bastard will say to Fred, "you havent got Marcus to back you up now", REMEMBER I SAID THAT,
IF we want to see team bastard NOT have it all their own way Marcus HAS to stay,
they would be UTTERLY gob smaked if Marcus stays they will poo their pants,
if Marcus STAYS its as good as a bloody banner over the house saying "WE THINK TEAM LISA ARE ALL BASTARDS"

A copuple of weeks back it wouldve been Marcus to go for sure. Yes, Ive now changed my mind. Really cannot bare Freddie at all

He was laughing at the irony of it. Siavash was also awake listening but he was cute enough to say nothing.
Bea and Charli were right when they said Freddie is game playing all the time. I said it here weeks ago.
I just wish all this deep thinking would stop and they relaxed a bit more. It's spoiling the show.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
The ideal solution would be for neither to be up this week. Bea could try to batter Freddy emotionally again, but perhaps this time Marcus would get her told each time.

I really wish that BB had introduced a twist as this is such an awful eviction.

I agree with you.

Normally I hate their twists, but as I said in another thread, this really would be the right time to put the evictee into a secret house or something like that.

I can just picture the nasties faces if that happened.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
I'm torn if Marcus stayed then Lisa and Bea would be so smug they have managed to get rid of Freddie. If Freddie stays then to see their faces would be brilliant and also to send a message their behaviour is not liked by us. Marcus is able to take them all on by his own, Freddie is an easy target to single out so he would only have Siavash to rely on if they all gang up again so it's a win-lose situation.

thats the main point though Darlo ya have to think with ya head and not ya heart right now, Fred is a GREAT HM, and I would have NO problem with him staying and going on to win it,
BUT I really dont think he can take team bastards on in the way Marcus could, also ALL OF THEM excpect Marcus to go, and are probably just waiting for him to "be out of the way" so that they can get to work on Fred in earnest, I will make a prediction, within 2 DAYS of Marcus going ONE of team bastard will say to Fred, "you havent got Marcus to back you up now", REMEMBER I SAID THAT,
IF we want to see team bastard NOT have it all their own way Marcus HAS to stay,
they would be UTTERLY gob smaked if Marcus stays they will poo their pants,
if Marcus STAYS its as good as a bloody banner over the house saying "WE THINK TEAM LISA ARE ALL BASTARDS"

I would relish if Marcus stayed of him making them look like fools .

Still want Marcus to go, plus he says he wants to, not heard Freddie say that.
Plus, I want to see Bea and her new band of "positive" friends, reactions!

Have'nt changed my mind at all. Even if I liked Marcus more, I would respect his wish to leave!

Oh this is still going lol Looks like i'm not the only one wanting Freddie out.

barstewerds ! freddie should stay and marcus should go although i dont want either of them to if freddie goes then marcus then siavash thast the end of the show for me

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Originally posted by Tayto:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
I watched it last night and thought Marcus was brilliant but in saying that so was she. It was tit for tat. She didn't let him away with anything. Why does Marcus feel he can point out everyone's faults and failings and think it's alright?
I also thought Charli was right telling Freddie to go back to bed. Freddie was having a panic attack and it didn't need to get any worse.
I don't want either of them to go even though I dislike Marcus. I hope Marcus stays but only for the war that will ensue between him and Bea.

do you think Charlie was right when he told Fred in front of every one to "leave my stuff alone (over the towel) please just respect my stuff"

and then last night the sneaky little bastard STEALS Freds beer, then YELLS at him to go back to bed and stop "ganging up" on Bea, even though Fred hadnt said a word yet?

No OHG I don't. I don't like Charli all that much but I saw it for what it was last night. Freddie laughed in the bedroom Charli heard him. Then Freddie came out all fired up. Charli said leave her alone because he though Freddie was going to say something to her. I think Charli was right not to make it any worse.
Then Freddie said he was having a panic attack and his heart was going thump thump. If Freddie is as innocent as is being said he wouldn't have laughed out loud and have got out of bed. He was fuming you can't deny that.
I have always liked Freddie but anyone watching can see that he is not the same Freddie we all fell for in the first few weeks. I'm with Bea on that one - only that one by the way. I don't like her at all.

No Tates Freddie didnt just get out of bed......Charlie went into the bedroom and asked "who was laughing just then?" to which Fred replied...."me in response to the comment "if you can't take it don't give it out by Bea",,,,,,then Charlie walked out of the bedroom and said "he's laughing in there, i think he needs to grow up as well" and carried on with his rant......THAT is why Freddie got out of bed.....to defend himself

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Originally posted by Tequila:
THAT is why Freddie got out of bed.....to defend himself

And anyone of us would have done the same.

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Originally posted by Tayto:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Tayto:
I watched it last night and thought Marcus was brilliant but in saying that so was she. It was tit for tat. She didn't let him away with anything. Why does Marcus feel he can point out everyone's faults and failings and think it's alright?
I also thought Charli was right telling Freddie to go back to bed. Freddie was having a panic attack and it didn't need to get any worse.
I don't want either of them to go even though I dislike Marcus. I hope Marcus stays but only for the war that will ensue between him and Bea.

do you think Charlie was right when he told Fred in front of every one to "leave my stuff alone (over the towel) please just respect my stuff"

and then last night the sneaky little bastard STEALS Freds beer, then YELLS at him to go back to bed and stop "ganging up" on Bea, even though Fred hadnt said a word yet?

No OHG I don't. I don't like Charli all that much but I saw it for what it was last night. Freddie laughed in the bedroom Charli heard him. Then Freddie came out all fired up. Charli said leave her alone because he though Freddie was going to say something to her. I think Charli was right not to make it any worse.
Then Freddie said he was having a panic attack and his heart was going thump thump. If Freddie is as innocent as is being said he wouldn't have laughed out loud and have got out of bed. He was fuming you can't deny that.
I have always liked Freddie but anyone watching can see that he is not the same Freddie we all fell for in the first few weeks. I'm with Bea on that one - only that one by the way. I don't like her at all.

He repeated what Bea said and saw the absolute irony of it all!

Freddie to stay!Freddie to stay Freddie to stay Freddie to stay!

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Originally posted by 15:10:

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Originally posted by Tequila:
THAT is why Freddie got out of bed.....to defend himself

And anyone of us would have done the same.

Yes absolutely......Freddie said his heart was pounding and mine was doing exactly the same just watching last night/this morning. Charlie was absolutely awful the way he spoke to Freddie.....and that was all on top of Bea's OTT dramatics

Though the result is the same I have changed my mind.

Before last night I wanted Freddie to go (so voted Freddie).

Today, having seen last nights LF, I want Marcus to stay (so I voted Freddie).

Its kinda a big difference to me... even though the outcomes the same

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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
Though the result is the same I have changed my mind.

Before last night I wanted Freddie to go (so voted Freddie).

Today, having seen last nights LF, I want Marcus to stay (so I voted Freddie).

Its kinda a big difference to me... even though the outcomes the same

So when you wanted Freddie to go....didn't you want Marcus to stay Ditty??

Freddie to stay.

He knows what Bea is like now and she will not be able to get to him in the same way.

Freddie needs this victory so badly.
The HM's also need to know that Freddie is popular and that they haven't beaten him down.