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Originally posted by Perones:
Whilst I have some sympathy with people who support his non-voting i.e. it mixes things up a bit...I think BB need to take serious action..otherwise, this and any future BB series will be ruined because whenever nominations get a little difficult, they will know they can just not nominate without any serious consequences for themselves.

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Originally posted by kimota:
I like it that some have broken the rules in this way. The type of social experiments that inspired BB suggest that most people, even those like Lisa who look non-conformist, tend to meekly bow to authority in these situations. It is the minority, the Marcus' the Vashs' and Freddies' of this world that try to challenge the dominant authority. It is these sort of people who in far more serious situations like those American Interment camps, that blow the whistle and bring abuses to light. As such, they deserve to be applauded!

The problem is he just doesn't get punished much, same with Sophie, Rodrigo and Charlie....and this leads them to think they can get away with anything.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:


At the very start they assumed based on past BBs that Charlie and Rodrigo would be among the favourites. Outside information (such as from new HMs) has since made them revise that opinion at least a bit. Siavash's letter from home said he would have done well even if he didn't win it, which suggested he was indeed a favourite to win.

So did all the others, the messages were virtually the same, you're doing well, be yourself, I'm proud of you..... in fact if anyone would pick up anything in a message it would have been Rodrigo's message. His 'uk' dad virtually said he was one of the faves!
In simple terms the reasons for Siavash doing this is because of the block voting, and some having a free ride ino the final and he's right some have!

When the new housemates went into the house Siavash was not in the top three, so how the heck can he think he's one of the faves. Charlie is convinced he's got it in the bag and so are the rest.

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Originally posted by Lord Lucan:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
If Siavash had not opened up the competition by his non-voting, we could expect a very boring final few weeks. As it is, he has broken the predictability of Lisa's power base and the competition has been thrown wide open to fair play. By doing what he done, Siavash has taken the risk of (a) being ejected from the show for non-nomination or (b) being a possible evictee if they all go up. In my book, that is taking risks with winning the money, being heavily nominated nearer the final, and being greatly disliked by his fellow HMs. Obviously, Siavash thought the risks were worth taking, and he has the courage of his convictions with regard to a level playing field.

How is it fair play? Siavash is trying to a) stop him and Marcus going head to head because I bet you a zillion dollars he thought Marcus would've gone last week, not Freddie. If he goes up against Marcus he might lose and b) he knows he has a better chance of surviving if the whole House is up. So far he has got away with it but at what cost? At the cost of other HMs who have done nothing wrong (Hira) and who haven't been PROPERLY nominated for eviction either which isn't fair is it??? No wonder Rodrigo had a go at him for playing "God".

Siavash is an utter coward and instead of following the rules and facing the consequences of going which EVERYONE before him has done, he is changing them left, right and centre to stop himself from going up against someone popular. He is actually up his own @rse and getting wayyyyyy too cocky about this, something the public cannot stand. Look what happened to Freddie!

hi LordL. Fair play, as I understand it, is the system whereby everyone is given an equal chance to succeed. When that option is taken away, it only takes one person to change the system by not complying with the rules of the game and exposing the game as corrupt. Had Siavash nominated in the normal way this week, the same thing would have happened as had happened the week before, ie one of the outside gang would go. This is how the end of the show would have panned out, Lisa-style. Thankfully Siavash has outed the real cheaters, the ones who want to win by any means, the ones who would have accepted the corrupt block nominations to survive. At least concede that the system was corrupt and rotten. Liking Siavash for exposing cheating in a game is commendable imo. For agreeing to a corrupt system in a game is akin to agreeing that fair play and a level playing field are alien to society as a whole. The public may disagree with the latter concept, and applaud someone who has the nous to break the corruption.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
If Siavash had not opened up the competition by his non-voting, we could expect a very boring final few weeks. As it is, he has broken the predictability of Lisa's power base and the competition has been thrown wide open to fair play. By doing what he done, Siavash has taken the risk of (a) being ejected from the show for non-nomination or (b) being a possible evictee if they all go up. In my book, that is taking risks with winning the money, being heavily nominated nearer the final, and being greatly disliked by his fellow HMs. Obviously, Siavash thought the risks were worth taking, and he has the courage of his convictions with regard to a level playing field.

well said Twee! he is the only one in there with some honesty and integrity! and he's scared of SPIDERS!!! ya gotta love him

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

In simple terms the reasons for Siavash doing this is because of the block voting, and some having a free ride ino the final and he's right some have!

Siavash was part of the block voting too one week when it was obviously just one group v another. It's up to Endemol to put the twists in to mix things up and not the HMs. At present Endemol are letting Siavash dicatate what happens.

Siavash nominated last week didn't he, so what's changed this week for him? Maybe this week he was just more confident of not going as Bea or David was likely to be up. What is also annoying is him saying he is withdrawing from the game when he obviously isn't.

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Originally posted by Mollie:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
If Siavash had not opened up the competition by his non-voting, we could expect a very boring final few weeks. As it is, he has broken the predictability of Lisa's power base and the competition has been thrown wide open to fair play. By doing what he done, Siavash has taken the risk of (a) being ejected from the show for non-nomination or (b) being a possible evictee if they all go up. In my book, that is taking risks with winning the money, being heavily nominated nearer the final, and being greatly disliked by his fellow HMs. Obviously, Siavash thought the risks were worth taking, and he has the courage of his convictions with regard to a level playing field.

well said Twee! he is the only one in there with some honesty and integrity! and he's scared of SPIDERS!!! ya gotta love him

yes Mollie, and the operative words are honesty and integrity. Being honest about playing the game well and taking the flak for his non-compliance is admirable.

His fear of spiders is quite a separate issue and that comes under the heading of something ending in 'phobia' but don't ask me what it is. He screams like a girl when he sees one, yet he has the balls to out cheating when he sees it. Yeah! you gotta love him.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by Lord Lucan:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
If Siavash had not opened up the competition by his non-voting, we could expect a very boring final few weeks. As it is, he has broken the predictability of Lisa's power base and the competition has been thrown wide open to fair play. By doing what he done, Siavash has taken the risk of (a) being ejected from the show for non-nomination or (b) being a possible evictee if they all go up. In my book, that is taking risks with winning the money, being heavily nominated nearer the final, and being greatly disliked by his fellow HMs. Obviously, Siavash thought the risks were worth taking, and he has the courage of his convictions with regard to a level playing field.

How is it fair play? Siavash is trying to a) stop him and Marcus going head to head because I bet you a zillion dollars he thought Marcus would've gone last week, not Freddie. If he goes up against Marcus he might lose and b) he knows he has a better chance of surviving if the whole House is up. So far he has got away with it but at what cost? At the cost of other HMs who have done nothing wrong (Hira) and who haven't been PROPERLY nominated for eviction either which isn't fair is it??? No wonder Rodrigo had a go at him for playing "God".

Siavash is an utter coward and instead of following the rules and facing the consequences of going which EVERYONE before him has done, he is changing them left, right and centre to stop himself from going up against someone popular. He is actually up his own @rse and getting wayyyyyy too cocky about this, something the public cannot stand. Look what happened to Freddie!

hi LordL. Fair play, as I understand it, is the system whereby everyone is given an equal chance to succeed. When that option is taken away, it only takes one person to change the system by not complying with the rules of the game and exposing the game as corrupt. Had Siavash nominated in the normal way this week, the same thing would have happened as had happened the week before, ie one of the outside gang would go. This is how the end of the show would have panned out, Lisa-style. Thankfully Siavash has outed the real cheaters, the ones who want to win by any means, the ones who would have accepted the corrupt block nominations to survive. At least concede that the system was corrupt and rotten. Liking Siavash for exposing cheating in a game is commendable imo. For agreeing to a corrupt system in a game is akin to agreeing that fair play and a level playing field are alien to society as a whole. The public may disagree with the latter concept, and applaud someone who has the nous to break the corruption.

Hi Twee, I see it that last week he wanted to "play the game" and nominated as per usual yet 2 weeks before he didn't? When the whole House was up because of it (including him), he almost had heart failure when Davina said his name (to say he was saved which he didn't know). I just can't stand the way he then went sorry, sorry guys when he knew he was safe.

I'm sure he voted Bea last week anyway so he is a hypocrite.

Hi Twee, I see it that last week he wanted to "play the game" and nominated as per usual yet 2 weeks before he didn't? When the whole House was up because of it (including him), he almost had heart failure when Davina said his name (to say he was saved which he didn't know). I just can't stand the way he then went sorry, sorry guys when he knew he was safe.

I'm sure he voted Bea last week anyway so he is a hypocrite.[/QUOTE]

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hi LordL. The week before the Freddie/Marcus noms was the first week that Siavash refused to nominate. He found out the punishment was that all the HMs were up. He re-thought his nomination tactics last week and decided that he should nominate like all the rest because he thought, by doing so, that it would be fair and could possibly help two of his friends to stay in the house. It didn't work because Bea made sure of that with her treacherous side-changing tactics.

This week Siavash decided it was time to go back to Plan A, and not nominate at all. By doing this again he risked the wrath of the other HMs, the wrath of BB and the wrath of the public. He was prepared to risk all these things to expose something that was wrong. Bea lost her usefulness to the group this week and was therefore nominated. Last week, they needed her for the numbers game. Siavash knew this, and simply decided that it was better to take the chance of him being the sacrificial lamb to make the game fairer for everyone (including himself), and refused to nominate and risk his usual nervous symptoms come Friday night if he was up for the vote, etc etc.

I am getting really fed up with Siavash and this not nominating nonsense, it would appear when he thinks he is going to be up he cant face being up with one other person, so he breaks the rules in the hope that the whole house is up, is that not cheating? This being a rebel thing doesnt wash with me, sitting back and letting BB decide because he hasnt the ba;;s to do it himself is cowardly. Sorry but i liked Siavash, but now i just see a weak pathetic person who really hasnt made one decision in the house, plus has made some bad judgements and totally misread the "rabbit" situation. If he refuses next week to nominate he should be out. End of rant

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Originally posted by Lord Lucan:
Rodrigo had every right to shout at him "You think your the producer???!" Siavash is a huge disappointment.

BB hasn't even punished him or Sophie for that matter as far as I know.

Totally agree, and I like Siavash. Like Rodrigo even more for challenging him.

POSTED BY luxor

Siavash is meddling with the only part of the game show that has a direct affect on the public.
Nominations lead to the part where we get to take part in the game show.
His actions are based purely on self interest and designed to boost his already inflated self importance.
He knows that he is fairly popular and would stand a good chance of not being evicted if he was up against Lisa and co. However, Marcus beat Freddie (the fave for a long time) Bea and David are unknown quantaties. He tried to fix it that he would not be up in a one on one situation

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Originally posted by CYBERDAZZLE:
POSTED BY luxor

Siavash is meddling with the only part of the game show that has a direct affect on the public.
Nominations lead to the part where we get to take part in the game show.
His actions are based purely on self interest and designed to boost his already inflated self importance.
He knows that he is fairly popular and would stand a good chance of not being evicted if he was up against Lisa and co. However, Marcus beat Freddie (the fave for a long time) Bea and David are unknown quantaties. He tried to fix it that he would not be up in a one on one situation

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I agree and in my mind thats cheating