Mmmmmm! shaken it up a tad me thinks!

Rodrigo had every right to shout at him "You think your the producer???!" Siavash is a huge disappointment.

BB hasn't even punished him or Sophie for that matter as far as I know.

i think his protest is about the unfairness of lisa and co constantly block voting, i just wish he would come out and tell BB what is on his mind instead of doing it in riddles.

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he knows the rules why did he go in the house if he doesn't want to live by them also Sophie is now getting on my wick too.

Making a mockery of the show should of been kicked out by now.

i agree! I am a big siavash fan but i am really getting fed up with him. Its a game mate...you could win a lot of money and chances are your blowing it!!!

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he knows the rules why did he go in the house if he doesn't want to live by them also Sophie is now getting on my wick too.

Making a mockery of the show should of been kicked out by now.

The housemate that you are supporting said that he wished he had done the same as Siavash...

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he knows the rules why did he go in the house if he doesn't want to live by them also Sophie is now getting on my wick too.

Making a mockery of the show should of been kicked out by now.

The housemate that you are supporting said that he wished he had done the same as Siavash...

but he didn't and hasn't

The producers have made a mockery of the show.

Allowing block voting, not punishing nomination talk consistantly, allowing information from the outside (alot!!) allowing nomination talk from now on.

So i'll blame the producers, thanks.

At the end of the day, both he and Sophie haven't been punished but those who are up have so what's the point of it all? I just hate the way he thinks he's some sort of crusader when in fact he can't hack being up for eviction. What a coward. He has totally blown his chances of winning with all this stupid carry-on imo.

Cannot stand him now.

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he knows the rules why did he go in the house if he doesn't want to live by them also Sophie is now getting on my wick too.

Making a mockery of the show should of been kicked out by now.

The housemate that you are supporting said that he wished he had done the same as Siavash...

but he didn't and hasn't

I could list all of his rule breaking but it is outlined clearly on several other recent threads -including climbing on the roof AFTER having already been previously told to get down - or be ejected. We can all make a case for the housemates that we don't like to be kicked out - but what is the point? Personally, i would rather see my favourite housemate win BB against the main rivals - rather than post that they should be removed...

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he knows the rules why did he go in the house if he doesn't want to live by them also Sophie is now getting on my wick too.

Making a mockery of the show should of been kicked out by now.

The housemate that you are supporting said that he wished he had done the same as Siavash...

but he didn't and hasn't

I could list all of his rule breaking but it is outlined clearly on several other recent threads -including climbing on the roof AFTER having already been previously told to get down - or be ejected. We can all make a case for the housemates that we don't like to be kicked out - but what is the point? Personally, i would rather see my favourite housemate win BB against the main rivals - rather than post that they should be removed...

You are making the presumption that I don't like Siavash and I haven't said that, I said I don't like the fact he won't nominate, there is also things I don't like about Marcus, I can see HMs faults as well as there good pooints, but this thread is about Siavash not Marcus

I don't think what Siavash has done regarding noms makes him a twat in any way, he's playing the game his own way, and why shouldn't he?

BB made the decision to make him nominate, and it was interesting to see who he would make physical contact with first. They were free to punish him, if they desired, but chose to pee off other HM's who may not have been chosen otherwise.

He's still my fave

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Originally posted by figtree:
Mmmmmm! shaken it up a tad me thinks!

I agree Siavash is being a prat, however, I do think that it's probably a good thing that BB chose his and Sophies nominations for them

It would be clear cut who was up as they are allowed to talk about nominations still, at least this way it's thrown abit of a spanner in the works.....mixed things up abit...

Another thing I was wondering is why Siavash took all the flak and Sophie seemed to get away with it!!!

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Originally posted by mozart:
i think his protest is about the unfairness of lisa and co constantly block voting

Me too. And I agree with him. For me, the weeks he hasn't nominated have led to the less predictable and more interesting evictions too.

David made me with giggle with his simplistic comparison with "paying council tax", etc. These dudes really do think BB is THAT important and real life, eh? Bless.

He's a contestant on a gameshow, not automatically cloned into a non-sentient pawn of the producers, stripped of opinion or volition. (Well any reasonably intelligent person is anyway; sorry David). He has the option of 'not playing'; they have a host of options open to them (including chucking him out). I bet, secretly, C4 are loving this opportunity for eviction twists he's given them.

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he knows the rules why did he go in the house if he doesn't want to live by them also Sophie is now getting on my wick too.

Making a mockery of the show should of been kicked out by now.

The housemate that you are supporting said that he wished he had done the same as Siavash...

but he didn't and hasn't

I could list all of his rule breaking but it is outlined clearly on several other recent threads -including climbing on the roof AFTER having already been previously told to get down - or be ejected. We can all make a case for the housemates that we don't like to be kicked out - but what is the point? Personally, i would rather see my favourite housemate win BB against the main rivals - rather than post that they should be removed...

You are making the presumption that I don't like Siavash and I haven't said that, I said I don't like the fact he won't nominate, there is also things I don't like about Marcus, I can see HMs faults as well as there good pooints, but this thread is about Siavash not Marcus

Your original post states that Siavash should have been kicked out by now - that is the point that i have been challenging - and using Marcus as a comparison. My replies have been on topic and valid, i believe. Siavash is not my favourite but i don't think he's a twat.

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Originally posted by subatomic partygirl:

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Originally posted by mozart:
i think his protest is about the unfairness of lisa and co constantly block voting

Me too. And I agree with him. For me, the weeks he hasn't nominated have led to the less predictable and more interesting evictions too.

David made me with giggle with his simplistic comparison with "paying council tax", etc. These dudes really do think BB is THAT important and real life, eh? Bless.

He's a contestant on a gameshow, not automatically cloned into a non-sentient pawn of the producers, stripped of opinion or volition. (Well any reasonably intelligent person is anyway; sorry David). He has the option of 'not playing'; they have a host of options open to them (including chucking him out). I bet, secretly, C4 are loving this opportunity for eviction twists he's given them.

If he hadn't done that, the block-voting would've been so predictable!

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he knows the rules why did he go in the house if he doesn't want to live by them also Sophie is now getting on my wick too.

Making a mockery of the show should of been kicked out by now.

The housemate that you are supporting said that he wished he had done the same as Siavash...

but he didn't and hasn't

I could list all of his rule breaking but it is outlined clearly on several other recent threads -including climbing on the roof AFTER having already been previously told to get down - or be ejected. We can all make a case for the housemates that we don't like to be kicked out - but what is the point? Personally, i would rather see my favourite housemate win BB against the main rivals - rather than post that they should be removed...

You are making the presumption that I don't like Siavash and I haven't said that, I said I don't like the fact he won't nominate, there is also things I don't like about Marcus, I can see HMs faults as well as there good pooints, but this thread is about Siavash not Marcus

Your original post states that Siavash should have been kicked out by now - that is the point that i have been challenging - and using Marcus as a comparison. My replies have been on topic and valid, i believe. Siavash is not my favourite but i don't think he's a twat.

and I stand by the statement, if you don't want to play the game get out, simple really, nominations is a fundamental rule of Big brother, to which he is not abiding by

Its a Game Show and I like that he is mixing things up. Rules are meant to be broken.

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Originally posted by Gorgeous Mimi:
Its a Game Show and I like that he is mixing things up. Rules are meant to be broken.

yep me too, at least siavash is making it a little less predictable with who is going up for nomination, i think that is what this is all about, Lisa and co block voting, possibly siavash`s little protest, BB have been unfair in allowing it for so long, so siavash is trying to make it a bit fairer.

Siavash is a self indulgent knob.
His pathetic actions at nominations were done in the belief that BB would put everybody up as they had before.
He was scared that he would have been up against Marcus and could have lost.
His morals are lower than Bea's.

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Originally posted by luxor:
Siavash is a self indulgent knob.
His pathetic actions at nominations were done in the belief that BB would put everybody up as they had before.
He was scared that he would have been up against Marcus and could have lost.
His morals are lower than Bea's.

Absolutely spot on, well said and straight to the point

If Siavash had not opened up the competition by his non-voting, we could expect a very boring final few weeks. As it is, he has broken the predictability of Lisa's power base and the competition has been thrown wide open to fair play. By doing what he done, Siavash has taken the risk of (a) being ejected from the show for non-nomination or (b) being a possible evictee if they all go up. In my book, that is taking risks with winning the money, being heavily nominated nearer the final, and being greatly disliked by his fellow HMs. Obviously, Siavash thought the risks were worth taking, and he has the courage of his convictions with regard to a level playing field.

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Originally posted by luxor:
Siavash is a self indulgent knob.
His pathetic actions at nominations were done in the belief that BB would put everybody up as they had before.
He was scared that he would have been up against Marcus and could have lost.
His morals are lower than Bea's.

Now,now...we have no evidence that that is the motive for his actions. It may be that, or may be, as he's said, him preferring not to be part of who is nominated for eviction / leaves.

He should walk then? Why? I don't think anyone can predict how the situation and various events (including nominating) will affect them in there and there's no 'rule' (actual or moral) on how to deal with it. This is his choice.

As BB can and do add (aka change) the rules at any time, they've had at least two opportunities to remove him for this particular transgression. They haven't thus far. Maybe they will. His choice. His consequence.

Siavash has blown his chances of winning. Remember Freddie blew his chances by being too cocky and a Mr-Know-It-All about staying in the House? .

Siavash has gone down that very same road by trying to be some kind of martyr and trying to pre-empt what will happen next because of HIS meddling with nominations .

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he knows the rules why did he go in the house if he doesn't want to live by them also Sophie is now getting on my wick too.

Making a mockery of the show should of been kicked out by now.

The housemate that you are supporting said that he wished he had done the same as Siavash...

but he didn't and hasn't

I could list all of his rule breaking but it is outlined clearly on several other recent threads -including climbing on the roof AFTER having already been previously told to get down - or be ejected. We can all make a case for the housemates that we don't like to be kicked out - but what is the point? Personally, i would rather see my favourite housemate win BB against the main rivals - rather than post that they should be removed...

You are making the presumption that I don't like Siavash and I haven't said that, I said I don't like the fact he won't nominate, there is also things I don't like about Marcus, I can see HMs faults as well as there good pooints, but this thread is about Siavash not Marcus

Your original post states that Siavash should have been kicked out by now - that is the point that i have been challenging - and using Marcus as a comparison. My replies have been on topic and valid, i believe. Siavash is not my favourite but i don't think he's a twat.

and I stand by the statement, if you don't want to play the game get out, simple really, nominations is a fundamental rule of Big brother, to which he is not abiding by

So, with that same reasoning - Marcus wanting to go home (ie wanting to go home = not wanting to play the game anymore); you will be voting him out.

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I am really fed up with the tw@t Siavash

Hhhhm gotta say I'm getting there.



Might have to change my sig soon.

I'm liking him not nominating, to me it's show who is so desperate to stay and who isn't. I want Marcus in the final, but he protests too much me thinks. He said he wasn't going to nominate and he did, if he really wasn't bothered about going then he would have taken the risk, it's never bothered him rule breaking before. Dave, Charlie, Lisa and Rodrigo to some extent showed how desperate they want to stay in the house. I don't think he's a twat for breaking rules, but surely this statement should apply to Sophie too. The nominations have been a farce for years, it's been more evident this year than any.

I can also see Siavash's point about the block vote, they used Bea last week to get rid of either Freddie or Marcus, Bea's not changed at all, yet this week they are all nominating her because she served her purpose. I hope they all refuse next week, but that's some hope for Team Lisa, who will cling on to the door handle until the dying seconds.

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he knows the rules why did he go in the house if he doesn't want to live by them also Sophie is now getting on my wick too.

Making a mockery of the show should of been kicked out by now.

The housemate that you are supporting said that he wished he had done the same as Siavash...

but he didn't and hasn't

I could list all of his rule breaking but it is outlined clearly on several other recent threads -including climbing on the roof AFTER having already been previously told to get down - or be ejected. We can all make a case for the housemates that we don't like to be kicked out - but what is the point? Personally, i would rather see my favourite housemate win BB against the main rivals - rather than post that they should be removed...

You are making the presumption that I don't like Siavash and I haven't said that, I said I don't like the fact he won't nominate, there is also things I don't like about Marcus, I can see HMs faults as well as there good pooints, but this thread is about Siavash not Marcus

Your original post states that Siavash should have been kicked out by now - that is the point that i have been challenging - and using Marcus as a comparison. My replies have been on topic and valid, i believe. Siavash is not my favourite but i don't think he's a twat.

and I stand by the statement, if you don't want to play the game get out, simple really, nominations is a fundamental rule of Big brother, to which he is not abiding by

So, with that same reasoning - Marcus wanting to go home (ie wanting to go home = not wanting to play the game anymore); you will be voting him out.

Siavash is meddling with the only part of the game show that has a direct affect on the public.
Nominations lead to the part where we get to take part in the game show.
His actions are based purely on self interest and designed to boost his already inflated self importance.
He knows that he is fairly popular and would stand a good chance of not being evicted if he was up against Lisa and co. However, Marcus beat Freddie (the fave for a long time) Bea and David are unknown quantaties. He tried to fix it that he would not be up in a one on one situation.

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he knows the rules why did he go in the house if he doesn't want to live by them also Sophie is now getting on my wick too.

Making a mockery of the show should of been kicked out by now.

The housemate that you are supporting said that he wished he had done the same as Siavash...

but he didn't and hasn't

I could list all of his rule breaking but it is outlined clearly on several other recent threads -including climbing on the roof AFTER having already been previously told to get down - or be ejected. We can all make a case for the housemates that we don't like to be kicked out - but what is the point? Personally, i would rather see my favourite housemate win BB against the main rivals - rather than post that they should be removed...

You are making the presumption that I don't like Siavash and I haven't said that, I said I don't like the fact he won't nominate, there is also things I don't like about Marcus, I can see HMs faults as well as there good pooints, but this thread is about Siavash not Marcus

Your original post states that Siavash should have been kicked out by now - that is the point that i have been challenging - and using Marcus as a comparison. My replies have been on topic and valid, i believe. Siavash is not my favourite but i don't think he's a twat.

and I stand by the statement, if you don't want to play the game get out, simple really, nominations is a fundamental rule of Big brother, to which he is not abiding by

So, with that same reasoning - Marcus wanting to go home (ie wanting to go home = not wanting to play the game anymore); you will be voting him out.

wanting to go home and not nominating are two entirely different things, we are going round in circles and I am getting dizzy, I am fed up of Siavash get it Siavash think we have to agree to disagree on whatever point you are trying to make

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Originally posted by luxor:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he knows the rules why did he go in the house if he doesn't want to live by them also Sophie is now getting on my wick too.

Making a mockery of the show should of been kicked out by now.

The housemate that you are supporting said that he wished he had done the same as Siavash...

but he didn't and hasn't

I could list all of his rule breaking but it is outlined clearly on several other recent threads -including climbing on the roof AFTER having already been previously told to get down - or be ejected. We can all make a case for the housemates that we don't like to be kicked out - but what is the point? Personally, i would rather see my favourite housemate win BB against the main rivals - rather than post that they should be removed...

You are making the presumption that I don't like Siavash and I haven't said that, I said I don't like the fact he won't nominate, there is also things I don't like about Marcus, I can see HMs faults as well as there good pooints, but this thread is about Siavash not Marcus

Your original post states that Siavash should have been kicked out by now - that is the point that i have been challenging - and using Marcus as a comparison. My replies have been on topic and valid, i believe. Siavash is not my favourite but i don't think he's a twat.

and I stand by the statement, if you don't want to play the game get out, simple really, nominations is a fundamental rule of Big brother, to which he is not abiding by

So, with that same reasoning - Marcus wanting to go home (ie wanting to go home = not wanting to play the game anymore); you will be voting him out.

Siavash is meddling with the only part of the game show that has a direct affect on the public.
Nominations lead to the part where we get to take part in the game show.
His actions are based purely on self interest and designed to boost his already inflated self importance.
He knows that he is fairly popular and would stand a good chance of not being evicted if he was up against Lisa and co. However, Marcus beat Freddie (the fave for a long time) Bea and David are unknown quantaties. He tried to fix it that he would not be up in a one on one situation.

thank you Luxor

The more Siavash meddles, the more the likes of Lisa and David will become more popular with the public imo. Siavash is just sh!tting himself in case he is up against Marcus and loses and is doing everything in his power to prevent it. It's sooooooooooooooo boringly obvious .

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Originally posted by Cold Sweat:

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Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
he knows the rules why did he go in the house if he doesn't want to live by them also Sophie is now getting on my wick too.

Making a mockery of the show should of been kicked out by now.

The housemate that you are supporting said that he wished he had done the same as Siavash...

Because he knows they don't get punished for doing this. He is as pissed off as everyone else that this group (Siavash, Sophie, Charlie, Rodrigo) have never received a single warning on this series. They have sometimes not received any real punishment at all for major violations such as non nominations or physical violence.

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Originally posted by luxor:


Siavash is meddling with the only part of the game show that has a direct affect on the public.
Nominations lead to the part where we get to take part in the game show.
His actions are based purely on self interest and designed to boost his already inflated self importance.
He knows that he is fairly popular and would stand a good chance of not being evicted if he was up against Lisa and co. However, Marcus beat Freddie (the fave for a long time) Bea and David are unknown quantaties. He tried to fix it that he would not be up in a one on one situation.

I can't see the self interest bit, they could easily eject him from the house, so that doesn't make sense to me. How can he possibly know he's popular, all the feedback from the new housemates was about Freddie and Lisa. There's no way he can judge how popular he is with the viewing public, when the new ones went in he wasn't in the top three, in fact if anyone probably thinks they will win it will be Charlie, he was up there with Freddie weeks ago.

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Originally posted by Dame_Ann_Average:

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Originally posted by luxor:


Siavash is meddling with the only part of the game show that has a direct affect on the public.
Nominations lead to the part where we get to take part in the game show.
His actions are based purely on self interest and designed to boost his already inflated self importance.
He knows that he is fairly popular and would stand a good chance of not being evicted if he was up against Lisa and co. However, Marcus beat Freddie (the fave for a long time) Bea and David are unknown quantaties. He tried to fix it that he would not be up in a one on one situation.

I can't see the self interest bit, they could easily eject him from the house, so that doesn't make sense to me. How can he possibly know he's popular, all the feedback from the new housemates was about Freddie and Lisa. There's no way he can judge how popular he is with the viewing public, when the new ones went in he wasn't in the top three, in fact if anyone probably thinks they will win it will be Charlie, he was up there with Freddie weeks ago.

I think he does consider himself a favourite as the new HMs intimated that (why else would Noirin suddenly link up with him?). Also his message from home suggested he had a chance of winning.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:


I think he does consider himself a favourite as the new HMs intimated that (why else would Noirin suddenly link up with him?). Also his message from home suggested he had a chance of winning.

Norin would not have a clue he was popular, when Kenny came in Siavash was not in the top three, and if he got a inkling in his message from home, then they all did. Everyone of their family said they were doing great and just continue being themselves, I just don't get how he knows he's popular. Most of them are under the assuption that Charlie is going to win it, even Bea said this last night. Freddie's gone and Charlie was next favorite when the new ones went in, they are all assuming it's going to be a walk in the park for Charlie.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
If Siavash had not opened up the competition by his non-voting, we could expect a very boring final few weeks. As it is, he has broken the predictability of Lisa's power base and the competition has been thrown wide open to fair play. By doing what he done, Siavash has taken the risk of (a) being ejected from the show for non-nomination or (b) being a possible evictee if they all go up. In my book, that is taking risks with winning the money, being heavily nominated nearer the final, and being greatly disliked by his fellow HMs. Obviously, Siavash thought the risks were worth taking, and he has the courage of his convictions with regard to a level playing field.

How is it fair play? Siavash is trying to a) stop him and Marcus going head to head because I bet you a zillion dollars he thought Marcus would've gone last week, not Freddie. If he goes up against Marcus he might lose and b) he knows he has a better chance of surviving if the whole House is up. So far he has got away with it but at what cost? At the cost of other HMs who have done nothing wrong (Hira) and who haven't been PROPERLY nominated for eviction either which isn't fair is it??? No wonder Rodrigo had a go at him for playing "God".

Siavash is an utter coward and instead of following the rules and facing the consequences of going which EVERYONE before him has done, he is changing them left, right and centre to stop himself from going up against someone popular. He is actually up his own @rse and getting wayyyyyy too cocky about this, something the public cannot stand. Look what happened to Freddie!

I like it that some have broken the rules in this way. The type of social experiments that inspired BB suggest that most people, even those like Lisa who look non-conformist, tend to meekly bow to authority in these situations. It is the minority, the Marcus' the Vashs' and Freddies' of this world that try to challenge the dominant authority. It is these sort of people who in far more serious situations like those American Interment camps, that blow the whistle and bring abuses to light. As such, they deserve to be applauded!

Whilst I have some sympathy with people who support his non-voting i.e. it mixes things up a bit...I think BB need to take serious action..otherwise, this and any future BB series will be ruined because whenever nominations get a little difficult, they will know they can just not nominate without any serious consequences for themselves.

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Originally posted by Lord Lucan:


How is it fair play? Siavash is trying to a) stop him and Marcus going head to head because I bet you a zillion dollars he thought Marcus would've gone last week, not Freddie. If he goes up against Marcus he might lose and b) he knows he has a better chance of surviving if the whole House is up. So far he has got away with it but at what cost? At the cost of other HMs who have done nothing wrong (Hira) and who haven't been PROPERLY nominated for eviction either which isn't fair is it??? No wonder Rodrigo had a go at him for playing "God".

Siavash is an utter coward and instead of following the rules and facing the consequences of going which EVERYONE before him has done, he is changing them left, right and centre to stop himself from going up against someone popular. He is actually up his own @rse and getting wayyyyyy too cocky about this, something the public cannot stand. Look what happened to Freddie!

How is Siavash trying to stop him and Marcus going head to head? If BB had put him up he would have been up against Marcus, there was no way that Siavash knew what the punishment was.
He's refused to nominate before he knew Marcus was popular, so again I can't see how he would be trying to avoid being up against Marcus.
I thought he made it plain enough as to why he wasn't voting, the block votes are the issue! He was refering to Marcus and Freddie being up last week, when not many of them can stand Bea, as Siavash said she's not changed, she's still exactly the same as last week, but they prefered to get rid of Freddie.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:


I think he does consider himself a favourite as the new HMs intimated that (why else would Noirin suddenly link up with him?). Also his message from home suggested he had a chance of winning.

Norin would not have a clue he was popular, when Kenny came in Siavash was not in the top three, and if he got a inkling in his message from home, then they all did. Everyone of their family said they were doing great and just continue being themselves, I just don't get how he knows he's popular. Most of them are under the assuption that Charlie is going to win it, even Bea said this last night. Freddie's gone and Charlie was next favorite when the new ones went in, they are all assuming it's going to be a walk in the park for Charlie.

At the very start they assumed based on past BBs that Charlie and Rodrigo would be among the favourites. Outside information (such as from new HMs) has since made them revise that opinion at least a bit. Siavash's letter from home said he would have done well even if he didn't win it, which suggested he was indeed a favourite to win.

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Originally posted by Perones:
Whilst I have some sympathy with people who support his non-voting i.e. it mixes things up a bit...I think BB need to take serious action..otherwise, this and any future BB series will be ruined because whenever nominations get a little difficult, they will know they can just not nominate without any serious consequences for themselves.

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Originally posted by kimota:
I like it that some have broken the rules in this way. The type of social experiments that inspired BB suggest that most people, even those like Lisa who look non-conformist, tend to meekly bow to authority in these situations. It is the minority, the Marcus' the Vashs' and Freddies' of this world that try to challenge the dominant authority. It is these sort of people who in far more serious situations like those American Interment camps, that blow the whistle and bring abuses to light. As such, they deserve to be applauded!

The problem is he just doesn't get punished much, same with Sophie, Rodrigo and Charlie....and this leads them to think they can get away with anything.

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Originally posted by Free Thinking:


At the very start they assumed based on past BBs that Charlie and Rodrigo would be among the favourites. Outside information (such as from new HMs) has since made them revise that opinion at least a bit. Siavash's letter from home said he would have done well even if he didn't win it, which suggested he was indeed a favourite to win.

So did all the others, the messages were virtually the same, you're doing well, be yourself, I'm proud of you..... in fact if anyone would pick up anything in a message it would have been Rodrigo's message. His 'uk' dad virtually said he was one of the faves!
In simple terms the reasons for Siavash doing this is because of the block voting, and some having a free ride ino the final and he's right some have!

When the new housemates went into the house Siavash was not in the top three, so how the heck can he think he's one of the faves. Charlie is convinced he's got it in the bag and so are the rest.

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Originally posted by Lord Lucan:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
If Siavash had not opened up the competition by his non-voting, we could expect a very boring final few weeks. As it is, he has broken the predictability of Lisa's power base and the competition has been thrown wide open to fair play. By doing what he done, Siavash has taken the risk of (a) being ejected from the show for non-nomination or (b) being a possible evictee if they all go up. In my book, that is taking risks with winning the money, being heavily nominated nearer the final, and being greatly disliked by his fellow HMs. Obviously, Siavash thought the risks were worth taking, and he has the courage of his convictions with regard to a level playing field.

How is it fair play? Siavash is trying to a) stop him and Marcus going head to head because I bet you a zillion dollars he thought Marcus would've gone last week, not Freddie. If he goes up against Marcus he might lose and b) he knows he has a better chance of surviving if the whole House is up. So far he has got away with it but at what cost? At the cost of other HMs who have done nothing wrong (Hira) and who haven't been PROPERLY nominated for eviction either which isn't fair is it??? No wonder Rodrigo had a go at him for playing "God".

Siavash is an utter coward and instead of following the rules and facing the consequences of going which EVERYONE before him has done, he is changing them left, right and centre to stop himself from going up against someone popular. He is actually up his own @rse and getting wayyyyyy too cocky about this, something the public cannot stand. Look what happened to Freddie!

hi LordL. Fair play, as I understand it, is the system whereby everyone is given an equal chance to succeed. When that option is taken away, it only takes one person to change the system by not complying with the rules of the game and exposing the game as corrupt. Had Siavash nominated in the normal way this week, the same thing would have happened as had happened the week before, ie one of the outside gang would go. This is how the end of the show would have panned out, Lisa-style. Thankfully Siavash has outed the real cheaters, the ones who want to win by any means, the ones who would have accepted the corrupt block nominations to survive. At least concede that the system was corrupt and rotten. Liking Siavash for exposing cheating in a game is commendable imo. For agreeing to a corrupt system in a game is akin to agreeing that fair play and a level playing field are alien to society as a whole. The public may disagree with the latter concept, and applaud someone who has the nous to break the corruption.