Flows naturally, nowadays, eh Karms.  

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Sorry Lilibet. For obvious reasons I didn't read the original article, and thus thrashed around in the dark.

How about, "first they came for the anxious but I did nothing!" etc.

It always does when I'm ranting (and ello x)

Just wanted to add (another) bit on.....

Funny how this 'lets tax the rich' idea has been shuffled under the carpet isn't it. Hmmm could it be because Cameron and his nodding dog might slightly lose out financially per chance? What they would individually lose (and could afford to lose), would make a significant difference to a family in genuine need. The odd 40 quid a week to a Politician which would be a minute drop in their ocean would be like winning the lottery to some families. But noooooo, Cameron and Fido just want to keep taking from those who bloody need it, no mention of their own sacrifices to a country they 'claim' to care so much about.

I'd go and protest but I know I'd end up getting nicked cos they make me so ANGRY!  Bunch of dicksaps

 Don't be daft. I wasn't annoyed.


Except maybe with pretty_p for studiously ignoring my post on the first page, which was absolutely relevant to the Scum article.
Mind you, I should be used to that, by now!

Karma, sorry to hear that things aren't much better.


My brother has terrible back problems and is avoiding an operation, at the moment. The last time I saw him, he was in obvious pain and couldn't stay still for one minute. It's horrible to see anyone suffering like that.


As for the rest, I would like to point out that the sub-prime mortgage problem was chiefly an American thing. Then these dodgy debts were packaged up and sold around the world, which is why it became a global problem. I know we were also indebted rather too much, but it was the American banks which sent us over the edge.

Thanks Blizzie x I had no choice but to have my spinal op cos I was temporarily paralysed but if anyone is told they 'should' have one after having a slipped disc or other condition for a while, then my advice would be to check out all other avenues beforehand. Saying that, there are loads of people who have had the surgery I have and are fine. Sorry to hear about your brother Hope he manages to get it sorted x

i had a letter last week saying I am one of the ones who has underpaid tax on my husbands works widow pension, I always felt I was being taxed to much on my works pension but it seems through no fault of mine I have underpaid £2,363 I have no option to accept what the inland revenue say as I do not understand any of it,my daughter has all my documents P60 etc and is going over it all, she thinks I have paid enough and one year were my tax code number does not seem right she said it looks like an emergency tax code number.

Karma sorry to hear  your operation was not a success take care

• £2 billion undercharged to tax payers in the UK. This amount “cannot afford” to be written off by Her Majesty’s Tax Collectors. £6 billion of tax avoided by Vodafone and already written off by Her Majesty’s Tax Collectors.

A recent "number crunching" article published in Private Eye.

What I don't understand is, no matter how many times this is being flagged up, not too many people in this country seem to have the stomach to fight it. The French would have a backlog in the Bastille by now.

Well,  Personally I think this country is pretty great....Let's not forget why Britain was given the title "Great"......Let's not forget those who fought and died for us.....let's not forget that there are many, many countries worse off  than us.......and many, many more people who's lives are harder and poorer than ours.......If at birth they had been given a choice, I guess alot of them would have chosen to live here too.......Stand back for just a moment and realise maybe this country aint all bad......

It seems some of the big buisness/millionaires are getting written off the ordinary working person or as in my case pensioner wont be getting the same privelege.... their mistakes for bungling peoples taxes.

I completely agree - too many people build up massive debts then blame the Government!!

Marguerita, you really should not pay this. I remember a time when they said if the Government made a mistake, hard luck. Why don't you just put up two fingers and say try and get it?  The whole thing is wrong, wrong, wrong.

I don't think anyone blames the government. I for one blame the people in charge.

???????

The Tories Clegg and Cameron are merely obeying orders from their evil fat cat masters. etc..

Never  

He's lying  

 cologne  If I do find that I definitely do  owe it I will pay it I could not take the hassle of threatening letters etc  I will be annoyed as it is their mistake it is not like I tried to dodge paying my taxes my daiughter thinks they are wrong I hope she finds she is right...

You said it all there Marguerita, tell them to get lost. You have been living and paying your dues in good faith. They (the Government) are the ones at fault.

cologne

The thing is, you don't owe them anything. You have paid your tax, the fact that they made a mistake is up to them. Please Marguerita tell them to get on their bikes. You are a widow, the pension you have has been taxed when you and your husband earned it, why tax it again? Tell them to get lost and see what will happen.

cologne I will keep you updated

Whilst agreeing that of all the places to live in the world living in the UK is one of the easier ones, the term "Great Britain" was first used in 1474 (thanks Wiki for the exact date).

It was to identify the entity of Britannia Minor (Lesser Britain) together with Britannia Major (Greater Britain).  It has nothing at all to do with any notion of "greatness" 

Totally agree, I would never want to live anywhere else.

Unfortunately, they are entitled to tax you on pension. The pension I get from my late husband is taxed. However, me, and you too Marguerita, are still entitled to our tax allowance before they start deducting that tax. Seems unfair I know, but that's the way it is.

I may be wrong, but I don't think the amount you get deducted for your pension when you are working, is taxed. So in effect it's only being taxed once.

You are right - you get tax relief on pension contributions therefore you are only taxed when you start drawing your pension.

which means you are being taxed on something you've payed tax on before.

Can't say I've noticed... 

(Ello  and very well done on your first assignment - shy of a distinction )

Speak soon.

Indeed. 

Not really cologne. On my payslips, the amount of the pension contribution I paid was deducted from my wages before the calculation of tax. Therefore, the amount paid towards the pension is not taxed. But when you finally receive that pension back, that is when they tax it. But they must allow you your Tax allowance against your income and only tax you on the remainder.

Marguerita, I would recommend your daughter carries on and check your pension income and tax deducted. Don't automatically assume Inland Revenue are correct in saying that you owe them money. You may well do, but always check first. If you have underpaid, check online if there is anything you can do about it before paying. Perhaps they have a system in place where you gradually pay it back, instead of all in one go. I don't know, as I haven't underpaid, thank goodness.

Ta muchly Ninj

Six outta ten 

I wouldn't bother if I were you - you are right that is why pensions are referred to as being tax efficient.

Sorry PP. What shouldn't I bother with?

Trying to explain - unfortunately there are some people who are unable to accept that somebody else mau know a bit more about a given topic than them

I know more than you about everything. 

Some people ignore all salient points. 

aaahhh but you don't know more about me ... than me!!

I'll give you that one.