quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Just another thought.....it may well be that the Head is already seeking advice from the local authority etc. and some of the things I've mentioned are already in motion and you're not aware of it? May be advisable to check this out first?
quote:Originally posted by Rekaf:
the law on knife carrying used to be that a folding knife with a blade of 3 inches or less was legal to carry and not considered an offensive weapon, the subtle part now is that ANY blade, regardless of its length must be considered as an offensive weapon when it is used as such..........
quote:Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
Just another thought.....it may well be that the Head is already seeking advice from the local authority etc. and some of the things I've mentioned are already in motion and you're not aware of it? May be advisable to check this out first?
i will do super.....i'd hope he has...as with any school they don't want bad publicity etc....i'll check it out...
thanks for your help xx
quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:quote:Originally posted by captain marbles:
It looks like some police forces are still stuck in the days of the "We dont get involved in domestics" attitude. I thought things had changed for the better over the last few years but maybe not.
They CANNOT be allowed to get away with it - wonder if their reaction would be the same if it was one of their partners being threatened with a 'too short' knife?
Bloody unbelievable
A bloke mate of mine got arrested for trying to break into his house after a row with his wife..the copper told him to smear Imacc on her pillow case....
quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:quote:Originally posted by Rekaf:
the law on knife carrying used to be that a folding knife with a blade of 3 inches or less was legal to carry and not considered an offensive weapon, the subtle part now is that ANY blade, regardless of its length must be considered as an offensive weapon when it is used as such..........
...and....it's not just the knife/self harm ,the initial post said that he threatened to kill her and her new partner!
quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:quote:Originally posted by captain marbles:
It looks like some police forces are still stuck in the days of the "We dont get involved in domestics" attitude. I thought things had changed for the better over the last few years but maybe not.
They CANNOT be allowed to get away with it - wonder if their reaction would be the same if it was one of their partners being threatened with a 'too short' knife?
Bloody unbelievable
A bloke mate of mine got arrested for trying to break into his house after a row with his wife..the copper told him to smear Imacc on her pillow case....
Soz I should have added to this, the copper did say *that will teach the bitch* and all this came from as he told my friend that he had been through a bad divorce....
quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:quote:Originally posted by captain marbles:
It looks like some police forces are still stuck in the days of the "We dont get involved in domestics" attitude. I thought things had changed for the better over the last few years but maybe not.
They CANNOT be allowed to get away with it - wonder if their reaction would be the same if it was one of their partners being threatened with a 'too short' knife?
Bloody unbelievable
A bloke mate of mine got arrested for trying to break into his house after a row with his wife..the copper told him to smear Imacc on her pillow case....
Soz I should have added to this, the copper did say *that will teach the bitch* and all this came from as he told my friend that he had been through a bad divorce....
Jeeebus, stonks
quote:Originally posted by Rekaf:
...and....it's not just the knife/self harm ,the initial post said that he threatened to kill her and her new partner!
quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:quote:Originally posted by captain marbles:
It looks like some police forces are still stuck in the days of the "We dont get involved in domestics" attitude. I thought things had changed for the better over the last few years but maybe not.
They CANNOT be allowed to get away with it - wonder if their reaction would be the same if it was one of their partners being threatened with a 'too short' knife?
Bloody unbelievable
A bloke mate of mine got arrested for trying to break into his house after a row with his wife..the copper told him to smear Imacc on her pillow case....
Soz I should have added to this, the copper did say *that will teach the bitch* and all this came from as he told my friend that he had been through a bad divorce....
Jeeebus, stonks
I know and these are the people who are meant to protect us and not let their own issues get in the way....
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
I haven't read back properly... and I am not an expert in the DV stuff, but...
I'm surprised he hasn't been sectioned under the mental health act... because of his threats to kill himself...
or under the public health act.... a danger to the public.
I have actually seen a Director of Public Health sign off a sectioning for a man that was threatening to slash his wrists in a shopping centre in our town... the threat to the public being that is was a busy public area.... so ,near a school!??!
quote:Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:
right i've passed it all on....and told her word for word rekafs post on the change in law regarding the knife length thing......she's ringing the police now to find out what the hell is going on...
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
If he still has the same GP as her, she could also ring him and ask about the sectioning thing. He won't be able to discuss the husband with her... but he will be able to listen... and advise if necessary... or make the call!
quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
If he still has the same GP as her, she could also ring him and ask about the sectioning thing. He won't be able to discuss the husband with her... but he will be able to listen... and advise if necessary... or make the call!
Ello Ditty..A wife or a husband cannot section each other, any other member of the family can but never spouses....
quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
If he still has the same GP as her, she could also ring him and ask about the sectioning thing. He won't be able to discuss the husband with her... but he will be able to listen... and advise if necessary... or make the call!
Ello Ditty..A wife or a husband cannot section each other, any other member of the family can but never spouses....Damn, that's one plan bolloxedProbably with good reason!
quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
If he still has the same GP as her, she could also ring him and ask about the sectioning thing. He won't be able to discuss the husband with her... but he will be able to listen... and advise if necessary... or make the call!
Ello Ditty..A wife or a husband cannot section each other, any other member of the family can but never spouses....
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
If he still has the same GP as her, she could also ring him and ask about the sectioning thing. He won't be able to discuss the husband with her... but he will be able to listen... and advise if necessary... or make the call!
Ello Ditty..A wife or a husband cannot section each other, any other member of the family can but never spouses....
Okay... didn't know that (and THAT is effing barmy... given that you still have to have two doctors sign it off).
What about public health then... is that the same?
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by stonks:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
If he still has the same GP as her, she could also ring him and ask about the sectioning thing. He won't be able to discuss the husband with her... but he will be able to listen... and advise if necessary... or make the call!
Ello Ditty..A wife or a husband cannot section each other, any other member of the family can but never spouses....
quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by stonks:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
If he still has the same GP as her, she could also ring him and ask about the sectioning thing. He won't be able to discuss the husband with her... but he will be able to listen... and advise if necessary... or make the call!
Ello Ditty..A wife or a husband cannot section each other, any other member of the family can but never spouses....
Okay... didn't know that (and THAT is effing barmy... given that you still have to have two doctors sign it off).
Relatives don't 'section' though- an approved social worker applies for it, generally in agreement from a GP and a psychiatrist, or, in emergencies, just one doctor
quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by stonks:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
If he still has the same GP as her, she could also ring him and ask about the sectioning thing. He won't be able to discuss the husband with her... but he will be able to listen... and advise if necessary... or make the call!
Ello Ditty..A wife or a husband cannot section each other, any other member of the family can but never spouses....
Okay... didn't know that (and THAT is effing barmy... given that you still have to have two doctors sign it off).
Relatives don't 'section' though- an approved social worker applies for it, generally in agreement from a GP and a psychiatrist, or, in emergencies, just one doctor
It is the family who usually bring it to the attention of the authorities, eg family Doctor and it is one of the family who have to sign the dotted line but not a spouse, I'm not making any of this up or guessing, I know this for a fact....
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by stonks:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
If he still has the same GP as her, she could also ring him and ask about the sectioning thing. He won't be able to discuss the husband with her... but he will be able to listen... and advise if necessary... or make the call!
Ello Ditty..A wife or a husband cannot section each other, any other member of the family can but never spouses....
Okay... didn't know that (and THAT is effing barmy... given that you still have to have two doctors sign it off).
Relatives don't 'section' though- an approved social worker applies for it, generally in agreement from a GP and a psychiatrist, or, in emergencies, just one doctor
It is the family who usually bring it to the attention of the authorities, eg family Doctor and it is one of the family who have to sign the dotted line but not a spouse, I'm not making any of this up or guessing, I know this for a fact....
I believe you Stonks... never doubted it. I have only ever seen the process from the second sign off end.... you know.. phone rings... paperwork faxed through... Director of PH has to sign on dotted line.
..never would.. ..I'll back away from the thread.... 
..no I'm going for my shower.... 
quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by stonks:quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:quote:Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:quote:Originally posted by stonks:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
If he still has the same GP as her, she could also ring him and ask about the sectioning thing. He won't be able to discuss the husband with her... but he will be able to listen... and advise if necessary... or make the call!
Ello Ditty..A wife or a husband cannot section each other, any other member of the family can but never spouses....
Okay... didn't know that (and THAT is effing barmy... given that you still have to have two doctors sign it off).
Relatives don't 'section' though- an approved social worker applies for it, generally in agreement from a GP and a psychiatrist, or, in emergencies, just one doctor
It is the family who usually bring it to the attention of the authorities, eg family Doctor and it is one of the family who have to sign the dotted line but not a spouse, I'm not making any of this up or guessing, I know this for a fact....
I believe you Stonks... never doubted it. I have only ever seen the process from the second sign off end.... you know.. phone rings... paperwork faxed through... Director of PH has to sign on dotted line.
quote:Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:
right....update....a slight improvement but i still don't think it's that good...
she called and they said they'd phone her back which they just have....
they are now saying she was misinformed earlier....
she has now been told it is LIKELY....not definate.but likely....he will be charged with.
public order offence....
common assault
carrying a lethal weapon.....(it was a folding clasp knife?).....
he has been bailed til june 3rd and mustn't contact her....if he does he'll be arrested
he was assessed by the mental health team who didn't deem him unwell enough to be admitted(would that be sectioned?)....but they think he needs help.....
so it's still not clear whether they'll charge him.....or am i understanding that wrong??
quote:Originally posted by Veggieburger:
She needs to keep on at them though Spongey and I would urge her again to call Womens Aid as not only will they know the law but they will have contact numbers for local solicitors who specialise in this stuff. They might be able to provide someone to liaise with the police and mental health teams on her behalf - it depends on how they are set up locally to you.
Don't scare her more than she has been scared hun but try to impress upon her that she needs to get it sorted now before he really loses it.
You're a good friend to her
quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by spongebob squarepants
he was assessed by the mental health team who didn't deem him unwell enough to be admitted(would that be sectioned?)....but they think he needs help.....
Sponge they will have considered if he needed hospital admission, either on a voluntary basis or compulsorarily by sectioning him under the Mental Health Act if he was considered to be a risk to himself or others
quote:Originally posted by spongebob squarepants:quote:Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by spongebob squarepants
he was assessed by the mental health team who didn't deem him unwell enough to be admitted(would that be sectioned?)....but they think he needs help.....
Sponge they will have considered if he needed hospital admission, either on a voluntary basis or compulsorarily by sectioning him under the Mental Health Act if he was considered to be a risk to himself or others
i'd of thought the threats of suicide and then slashing at his wrists would mean he's a danger to himself(at least).....but it appears they don't think so????...i don't really know how it all works though....
