Indeed!
'Homeland' season two UK premiere date confirmed
Published Monday, Sep 24 2012, 17:17 BST
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The show's debut run will be repeated in full on More4 ahead of the season two premiere, with episodes airing on consecutive evenings from tomorrow night (Tuesday, September 25) at 11.05pm.
Homeland has been named as one of US President Barack Obama's favourite TV shows and triumphed at the recent 2012 Emmy Awards, winning in six categories.
The second season will premiere in the US on cable network Showtime this Sunday (September 30), just one week ahead of UK transmission.
Cant wait!!
Can't wait! Thanks erinp!
ooooooh brilliant. . something decent they didn't actually cancel for once cos it's too cerebral for the 'audience'... yay! 
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:
ooooooh brilliant. . something decent they didn't actually cancel for once cos it's too cerebral for the 'audience'... yay!
If anyone needs to know/watch again, it is being shown on More4 tonight at 23:10. Tonight is the 2nd episode though. 
It's on every evening up to and including Saturday 6th October, by the way, if anyone needs to catch up on an episode.
What does Brodie have planned for series two?
Claire Danes chats to a shadowy figure
Brodie gets down to business
Carrie pulls her panic phone call face
Saul was hoping to complete his crossword in peace
Estes is back. Will he still be mad with Carrie?
Is that man following Carrie?
Estes has a swish office
THIS SUNDAY CH4 9PM 
Yep! Mrs Jer will record it for me. Hoffentlich!
Just off to get something to eat before tonight's episode comes on - I feel I have a very tenuous grip on what's happening! 
Remember, the new series starts tonight at 9 pm on Ch4.
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Remember, the new series starts tonight at 9 pm on Ch4.
I'm gonna have to +1 it as there is too many things on a 9 that I watch/record but I can't wait
No spoilers to be found in here... what do you reckon may happen in the second season of the Channel 4 thriller
The second season of the ace thriller starring Damian Lewis and Claire Danes kicks off tonight on Channel 4 at 9pm... and here the five big questions we're hoping get answered during this run.
Don't worry, there are no spoilers below. All conjecture is based on what has gone before and the preview trailers released in the US and by Channel 4.
1) Will Carrie's memory have more holes than a cartoon Swiss cheese?
Carrie will probably spend a lot of time doing this 'Can I remember...?' face this series Being fired by the CIA proved too much for Carrie by the end of season one - and the final moments of the last episode showed her undergoing electroconvulsive therapy.
Making the link between Saul informing her that Abu Nazir's son Issa was killed in a drone strike and that Brody called out the child's name during a nightmare JUST as she got zapped, will Carrie remember this crucial detail after her treatment?
Going by the trailer, it certainly looks as if Carrie is set to do a Jack Bauer and will be drawn into one last job, despite her insistence that "I've put all of that away". Either that or she's just got a lovely new hairdo and she's off on her holidays...
2) Will Brody be able to keep his religious beliefs classified information?
Dana is one of our favourite characters - but is she the biggest risk to Brody?
As if Brody didn't have enough to keep under wraps already, tracks were becoming increasingly hard to cover with his conversion to Islam. Nipping off to the garage for quick pray on a regular basis was sure to be rumbled eventually, especially as no other evidence was forthcoming that he enjoyed a spot of general pottering about.
Daughter Dana, intelligent but unsurprisingly volatile, was asked to keep this religious development from the rest of the family after interrupting her dad during a prayer ritual - but surely the only way to truly keep a secret, is not to tell anyone at all...?
Seen folding his Qur'an in cloth in the trailer, what fallout can we expect if Brody's new political colleagues and CIA associates cotton on?
3) How far will Brody rise up the greasy political pole?
Brody's about to be in a position of a lot of power - how will he use it?
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Shortly before offing Tom Walker, Brody insisted to Abu Nazir that he could achieve more for their cause wielding lobbying power as a politician. Will this be enough for Nazir? It seems unlikely - it isn't as if he's hoping for an improved service with his fortnightly bin collections.
Saying that, it does appear that Brody may be on the fast track to increased influence in Washington. In the trailer, Vice President Walden butters Brody up with the compliment: "I believe you're the future of the party".
What are Walden's hopes and ambitions for Brody? Or is he merely seeking to bask in the reflected glow of Brody's perceived heroism? How far can Brody go in politics?
4) Where is Brody's video confession?
Recorded in advance of Brody's planned attack on the State Department, the SD card holding his recorded admission was nowhere to be found when he attempted to retrieve it after the suicide mission's failure. There was, however, a second chalk line drawn where it had been stashed.
Does the extra mark suggest fellow marine Tom Walker picked it up? And if so, where is the card now following Brody's execution of the lone sniper?
If that clip appears on YouTube, it could rack up more views than Gangnam Style.
5) Is there a mole? And who is the mole, if there is a mole?
Throughout season one, there were a few unsolved events that subtly suggested there may be someone on the inside of the CIA with a conflict of interest.
How did Hamid manage to come across a razor blade while held captive by the CIA? Was Raquim Faisel's wife Aileen tipped off before signalling to her husband that all was not well by flying a United States flag outside their home? And how did Brody manage to pass the polygraph test when questioned about Hamid's death?
Is Estes the mole?
Rex
And if there is a double agent in operation, might it be Saul? Or David Estes? Or maybe even Danny.
I have had my doubts about Saul, from time to time. 
Originally Posted by erinp:
Is Estes the mole?
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Idon't think Estes is clever enough. 
I'm watching on +1....don't tellme anything!
I enjoyed the show.
The father(Cody) and daughter relationship is getting interesting
And Carrie's father ,what's he all about.
Great ending 
Originally Posted by erinp:
I enjoyed the show.
The father(Cody) and daughter relationship is getting interesting
And Carrie's father ,what's he all about.
Great ending
Who's Cody?
Why, 'cos he told the sister to let Carrie go (to Beirut?
I meant Brody!!
I think there is more to her father than we know .
I'm always late to the party me. I didn't watch Season 1 (not my sort of programme - or so I thought!) It got such I hype, I recorded it all when it was rerun and I've watched it all in a week - and I flippin LOVE it. I've just watched Ep1 of season 2 and the recording cut off just as Dana and her Dad were in the garden (I'll just say that in case I spoil it for anyone) Anybody want to pm me with what was said/how it ended because my On Demand service isn't working either. Oh.. and all you clever people who managed to watch online - somebody want to send me a link to that too (ep 7 of season 1 didn't record (The Weekend) I read a synopsis online, but I'd love to watch it.
thanks muchly (and it has now officially bumped Downton into 'record and watch later' spot)
Originally Posted by erinp:
I meant Brody!!
I think there is more to her (Carrie's) father than we know .
Oh definitely. I felt (almost from the start) that there was 'something' about Carrie's father. Like maybe he knows stuff about the espionage/terrorist business that no-one knows he knows! 
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
I'm always late to the party me. I didn't watch Season 1 (not my sort of programme - or so I thought!) It got such I hype, I recorded it all when it was rerun and I've watched it all in a week - and I flippin LOVE it. I've just watched Ep1 of season 2 and the recording cut off just as Dana and her Dad were in the garden (I'll just say that in case I spoil it for anyone) Anybody want to pm me with what was said/how it ended because my On Demand service isn't working either. Oh.. and all you clever people who managed to watch online - somebody want to send me a link to that too (ep 7 of season 1 didn't record (The Weekend) I read a synopsis online, but I'd love to watch it.
thanks muchly (and it has now officially bumped Downton into 'record and watch later' spot)
Hmm....I know I watched it, but can't really recall it that closely at the moment, sorry.
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Hmm....I know I watched it, but can't really recall it that closely at the moment, sorry.
No worries Fluffs.. my On Demand started working again so I got to see the bit I missed. I'm still hoping Supes or Ells tell me where I can watch Season 1 online - I've tried looking but I'm getting nowhere.
Thanks, Fluffs - I'll try that later x
We are going to have some episode tonight.
After such a brilliant first season, questions were inevitably asked if it could pull off the trick again? The mystery of Brody's allegiance has been uncovered (if not by the CIA), and it appeared at the end of last season that Carrie was out of the spy game for good when she received shock treatment therapy. What more is there to tell?
Gardening leave
Quite a lot it seems, especially when we all knew that Carrie's early retirement was never going to last. At the start of the episode she is trying to lead an ordinary life: living with dad, making vegetable lasagne and teaching English at a language school (drawing a nice parallel with Brody teaching Issa English last season). But the CIA wants her back, as we discover trouble is afoot in the Middle East. Eerily reminiscent of last month's riots across the region, large crowds have gathered in Beirut to protest the killing of thousands of Iranians in a series of airstrikes by Israel. Whilst last season was all about 'homeland security', how America attempts to prevent attacks against it by terrorists, this season looks set to examine even further the role America and its allies play in the Middle East, and whether aggressive actions such as those taken by the likes of Israel and the US can be referred to as 'defence'.
Saul Berenson, the avuncular CIA investigator, hears in Beirut from one of Carrie's former sources of a planned terrorist attack on US soil. And with that, Carrie is shipped off on the next flight to Lebanon. In a clichÃĐd exchange, an exasperated Carrie tells her sister, "I wouldn't be going if I didn't have a choice," to which the response she receives is, "You always have a choice". Like an abused lover, Carrie seems perpetually drawn to the CIA, an organisation that has chewed her up and spat her out more times than she has changed dresses. Is it patriotism that lures Carrie to this dangerous line of work, or something else entirely?
Running mate
Brody can't seem to escape the clutches of those who want to use him either. After deciding blowing himself and the Vice President up in a suicide bomb attack wasn't the best idea, he convinced Abu Nazir that his efforts as a congressman can influence American policy from the inside. Playing the mole certainly has its benefits. His family are enjoying Brody's newfound political connections, with his children Chris and Dana now attending the same fancy school as the Veep's. His rollercoaster ride up the chain of power shows no signs of stopping when the VP turns up and offers him the role of running mate in the upcoming presidential elections.
But Abu Nazir hasn't forgotten his agent on the inside, and appears impatient about the lack of plotting and scheming going on at terrorist HQ. A journalist named Roya Hammad turns up at Brody's office saying that Nazir demands he retrieve a dossier full of potential attack targets from the safe of CIA chief David Estes; easier said than done. Brody is reluctant to get involved, but in the end steals the files in a thrilling moment where Estes abandons his office for five minutes. Brody is complicit to an extent in helping Nazir get the documents, maybe because he can deny his actions are deliberately jeopardising others. But what will he do if Nazir asks him to take arms, to go out and get blood on his hands?
The Smile
The two opposing forces of the CIA and al-Qaeda might have plans for Carrie and Brody, but it doesn't prove hard to coerce them back into action. The fundamental religious beliefs instilled in Brody from his time in captivity remain strong, as evidenced by his horror with the way his wife Jessica desecrates his Qur'an, ("That's not supposed to touch the floor!") and the tender way in which he buries the holy book. Against her better judgment, Carrie also seeks an alternative, hidden life. Pursued by a couple of men in Beirut, the ensuing chase down a crowded souk is both tense and thrilling. When trapped in a corner she switches headscarves with another woman before immobilising the man behind her in a lightning strike. We see this all the time in Hollywood action films. James Bond or Jason Bourne would take out an opponent and walk on without breaking a sweat. But what does Carrie do as she runs away? She smiles. The action-packed moment becomes simultaneously exciting and repulsive as we become aware of Carrie's addiction to this dangerous life, the flare of her white teeth a crack in the facade she'd maintained that all was well and she was on the road to recovery. One moment of violence was all it took for Carrie's true identity to be revealed. The cracks are appearing in Carrie and Brody's lives, how soon will it be before things falls apart?
Originally Posted by erinp:
The action-packed moment becomes simultaneously exciting and repulsive as we become aware of Carrie's addiction to this dangerous life, the flare of her white teeth a crack in the facade she'd maintained that all was well and she was on the road to recovery. One moment of violence was all it took for Carrie's true identity to be revealed. The cracks are appearing in Carrie and Brody's lives, how soon will it be before things falls apart?
I dispute that. IMO she kneed the guy in the groin and called for help for him so he couldn't follow her. The grin was because she had foiled the plot and had enjoyed the adrenalin surge.
Those viewers who found their suspense of disbelief stretched a tad too far by the finale of Homeland's first season - which saw Brody somehow receive a pivotal call from his distraught teenage daughter in a maximum-security underground bunker - may have a few issues coming out of this week's episode. Phone-based miracles are clearly Brody's thing, as this week he managed to send a warning text message to his Al-Qaeda boss about the CIA's assassination plot from the government situation room.
Seriously.
Let's just all take a moment to think about that.
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AndâĶ moving on. Brody found himself in what's likely to be the first of many awkward conflict of interest situations, now that he's straddling the political animal/undercover terrorist divide. When the jingoistic VP jovially asks him to help convince the Secretary of Defence to do a spot more bombing in Iran, there's just enough ambiguity in Lewis's performance that for a moment, you think he might just punch the guy's lights out and give up the whole charade. But he's smarter than that, and he's playing a much longer game than that.
What's more, he's got plenty of other concerns on his plate. The reintroduction of his Marine buddy Mike (Diego Klattenhoff) ended up being even more of a headache than you'd expect. It was bad enough when he was just the guy who'd been banging Brody's wife while he was presumed dead, but now Mike, along with a few of his fellow Marines, are getting suspicious about Tom Walker.
It doesn't make sense to any of them that Walker, a renowned crack shot, would have missed his target, while his death remains unexplained. It's interesting that barely two episodes into the season, the walls are already beginning to close in on Brody. His political career initially looked like it would be a long-term plot point, but if the end of this episode's anything to go by, he'll be on the run before he gets anywhere near the White House.
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In contrast to last week's opener where her arc was (a little disappointingly) plot-driven, here it was Carrie's storyline that gave the episode its emotional backbone. Her panic attack and rooftop breakdown gave Claire Danes the chance to remind us all just how shatteringly strong she is in this role, as well as acknowledging the impact last season had on her. This is a person whose sense of self literally seemed to revolve entirely around her job and her ability to do it exceptionally, so "I have never been so sure, and so wrong" was a moment of devastation we needed to see from her.
And while there wasn't any reason to read that tearful confession to Saul as being any kind of foreshadowing, it turned out to be exactly that. Thanks to a trademark moment of reckless determination that gets her chased onto a rooftop by gun-wielding militants and almost shot in the head (we're pretty sure none of this is in the after-care manual for electroconvulsive therapy), Carrie manages to steal a bag containing a certain memory stick. As Saul watches that video in the episode's final moments, presumably what we see on his face is the realisation that in actual fact, poor Carrie was so sure, and so right.
This was more than a quality jaw-dropper on which to end the episode. We don't believe there's a single viewer out there who would have called Saul discovering the truth about Brody this soon, and the utter surprise factor works as a great antidote to last week's rather predictable machinations to get Carrie back in the field.
Ever since it premiered, viewers and critics alike have been voicing doubts about Homeland's longevity - asking whether it can sustain such a seemingly finite premise for any length of time without becoming plain ludicrous. As of now, we've been given little reason to doubt it. There are no signs of the powers that be stretching things out unnecessarily, or holding off on making big changes for the sake of eking out a longer shelf life. This is only the second episode of the season, and already the status quo has shifted irreversibly. If the writers can just keep Brody away from phones, this season's looking very promising indeed.
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Final thoughts: - It's hard to think much beyond that final reveal. How on earth the showrunners are going to keep the wheels spinning on Brody for an entire season now that Saul knows the truth is pretty mind-boggling. Thoughts and theories in the comments below! - Hands up: who else is just absolutely not interested in seeing Dana developing a romance with the "moron" from last week at school? Really. She's been written unusually well as far as moody teens on TV go so far, but this plotline has the potential to become a real drag, although we'll reserve judgment until its goal becomes clearer. - We may have mentioned this, but Claire Danes is really, really, really good. The emptiness of that moment when she lets herself back into her sister's house, alone, after the CIA has once again chewed her up and spat her back out, was a quietly sad counterpoint to her much showier emotional moment earlier.
I'm in agreement, generally, with that synopsis/surmisation this week.
The Lebanese government has threatened to sue the makers of Homeland for misrepresenting Beirut.
Tourism Minister Faddy Abboud claims that 'Beirut Is Back', the second episode of season two which aired on Channel 4 on Sunday, did not depict reality as it was filmed in Israel.
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Abboud, who fears the show could impact tourism, insisted that Hamra Street is actually a thriving neighbourhood with popular shops and cafes.
"This kind of film damages the image of Lebanon. It is not fair to us and it's not true, it is not portraying reality," Abboud told Executive magazine.
"We want to take action, we want to write to the filmmakers and producers and demand an apology. And we are planning to raise a lawsuit against the director and the producer.
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"Beirut is one of the most secure capitals in the world, more secure than London or New York. We would like to welcome the crews here to film in this city - we were offended by the fact that they filmed the thing in Israel and said it was Beirut."
Israel and Lebanon are still technically at war. Filming the episode in Beirut would have been difficult because Homeland's co-creator Gideon Raff is Israeli and Israel's citizens are barred from visiting the city.
Quite ironic isn't it that a day or so after that was released, this happened.
Well I thought I'd posted a video ^^
Anyway it was with regards to the Lebanese government protesting that Homeland was depicting Beirut as an unsafe city and it might deter visitors. Then a day or so later a huge bomb goes off in Beirut. Note to Lebanese government: I think you might find it's these sort of things and not fictional TV programmes that put people off visiting.