similarly though, a vegan may avoid dairy/ eggs for health reasons rather than any form of principle ?

What are they talking about on BOTS? how is Sophie the tough one?  she was the biggest moaner in that task.

Does that mean if it's not nailed down, she'll eat it? 

Wolfy is

A shaman is one who goes into an altered state of consciousness at will.       While in this altered state, he or she makes a conscious choice to journey     to another reality, a reality which is outside of time and space. This         other reality is composed of three layers: the lower world, the middle         world and the upper world and is inhabited by helping spirits. The shaman     is able to establish relationships with these spirits and to bring back         information and healing for the community or the individual.
        Most importantly, shamanic work makes a practical difference in this world we live in. The work brings about a change. The journeys are undertaken  with a specific purpose in mind.
        A basic principle of shamanism is the belief that everything has a spirit and is alive. The tree has a spirit, the rock has a spirit, my drum has a spirit, and yes, even this computer has a spirit. If everything has  a spirit and is alive, we humans then find ourselves in a position of  equality rather than dominance. If you follow this logic, you begin to  realize that shamanism is a radical act. Shamans don’t follow the laws of man; they follow the laws of spirits. They don’t dominate  the earth and its creatures; they strive to live in harmony and balance.

It'd need to be nailed down.

My arse

Joe Mangle, Lydia Louisa... but who's that girl in yellow?

Yup, omnibuses included

Wolfy is...a Josie Gibson wannabe, and a poor one at that.

And the original Josie Gibson wasn't all that either.

Proper veganism isn't just about food though: they won't have anything to do with any animal products, e.g. leather.

She's one of the Made in Chelsea cast.

I swear, the celeb panelists never watch the show and are told to be positive about certain HM's, this time round it's Sophie.

I love Joe Mangle.  Not for anything he's saying tonight in particular.. i just do.

Just lke the rest of us then!

(Or is that just me?   )

she claims to be but your right ...My arse ,she is the biggest fake in there.

Thanks - that would explain why i didn't recognise her as i've never watched it.

Oh noo... Lydia doesn't have a famous fiance any more.   She's got a famous husband now.

I mean, all Sophie had to do is sit on her backside in a room for a few hours and she couldn't even handle that...tough.?

Couldn't agree more, erin

she was stuck with Jackie and jack though... I might have struggled too

New Guestpert

My psychiatrist is gonna appear next 

I eat dairy and eggs ( cause I got waaaaaay too skinny without them! ) but don't use animal products .. lots of veggies wouldn't , whereas some folk I know who'd say they were vegans  still wear leather shoes . I get what you're saying about " proper"  vegans , but I reckon most " proper" vegetarians  ( if we're using that to mean people who don;t eat meat for ethical reasons) wouldn't go fishing either

woops, quotetastic up there, sorry!  

You couldnae pay for insight like that  

Anyone got his number?

My god! What;s she wearing!

They are saying Callum is nicey nicey ,Dan's work is done .

I would agree with that. The reason I backtracked earlier was because I know a number of people who are vegetarian for religious or dietary reasons (rather than "meat is murder" type ethical reasons), and they probably wouldn't have much of a problem with fishing as a sport.

ahhh, yeah , that's true ! 

The Star is at it again

RANDY Lingerie model Hazel O’Sullivan tried to “turn” gay policeman Dan Neal with a sizzling romp in the house.

         The saucy session was considered too hot to be screened in full on Channel 5

She straddled the ex-detective as he lay in bed in the early hours and pinned him to the mattress.

The saucy session was considered too hot to be screened in full on Channel 5.

But our pictures show the pair grappling and kissing, with Dan seemingly succumbing to the Irish beauty’s charms.

A show insider said: “Dan seemed very excited to have Hazel on top of him. This had been building for a while.”

Dan, 33, has been a source of conflict in the house, having a drunken row with Jemima Slade, 41, and then being accused of bullying Wolfy Millington, 20.

But he made love not war for once as 32DD Hazel climbed into his bed, grabbed him, kissed him and then straddled him.

The pictures will stun viewers, as Dan has a boyfriend back at home in Essex.

Yet that has not stopped the pair acting like lovebirds.

“I just love him as a person.”        

<cite>Hazel O’Sullivan</cite>    

Sky Sports model Hazel, 24, is totally obsessed with the copper, who quit working on the Jimmy Savile sex abuse inquiry Operation Yewtree to go on the show.

The duo cosy up together on the sofa and some nights they snuggle up in bed.

Hazel says Dan is the spitting image of an ex-boyfriend, and fans reckon she is referring to rugby hunk Fergus McFadden, 27.

Hazel told a housemate: “I just love him as a person.

“The other night when I was in bed I thought he was my ex. I had to get out. I thought this is weird now.”

Twins Jack and Joe Glenny, 18, saw her blowing on Dan’s neck in bed in the early hours, and said: “This is such an erotic moment.”

Scenes we won't see because.................

they didn't happen?

we don't see most of what goes on

Oh

my

God....

Michael  

Jemima's friend

That's her son I think 

I wish he had gone in the house...

"Any publicity is good publicity."

Tell that to Jo O'Meara...