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Originally Posted by Baz:
I wasn't getting at anyone Soozy ....but I'm sorry , I can't find any excuse for his actions , no matter what she did ....cos if we make excuses for it , however tenuous , we are on very, very sticky road .. Just my opinion

I cannot excuse his behaviour in any way whatsoever, but and it's a small but you cannot behave like a tart either...they both should have gone

Kaytee

Hazel needs to tell the housies the truth about what happened, ie.... we were play-fighting, I took his duvet, I grabbed him round the neck, he grabbed me round the neck, he slapped my a*se, I pulled his boxers down, it was all role-play, then he got called to the DR and got a rollocking and then I got called to the DR and got a rollocking and I thought they were going to boot me out, so I told them I was scared........ then we spent the night together cuddling and laughing about it 

BS
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Baz:
So, then us flirting ...or even being tarty ...is an *excuse* for it ?

No Baz, but if you light a fuse you need to expect an explosion.

Can't agree, imo that's a bit like saying that if a girl wears a miniscule skirt, has her boobs out etc. etc. she's 'asking for it' 


No but if she's lying back in a bed giving him all those come to bed stares, licking her lips and pulling his under wear down asking him to get into bed with her... it's a bit hard to imagine she means no.

Bethni
Originally Posted by BARMYBRUMMIE - Slickman to WIN!:

Hazel needs to tell the housies the truth about what happened, ie.... we were play-fighting, I took his duvet, I grabbed him round the neck, he grabbed me round the neck, he slapped my a*se, I pulled his boxers down, it was all role-play, then he got called to the DR and got a rollocking and then I got called to the DR and got a rollocking and I thought they were going to boot me out, so I told them I was scared........ then we spent the night together cuddling and laughing about it 

 

Bethni
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Baz:
So, then us flirting ...or even being tarty ...is an *excuse* for it ?

No Baz, but if you light a fuse you need to expect an explosion.

Can't agree, imo that's a bit like saying that if a girl wears a miniscule skirt, has her boobs out etc. etc. she's 'asking for it' 

Not what I meant at all.

I am not in anyway excusing Dayley's behaviour but Hazel has to take responsibility for the part she played in last night's events.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Supes:
 

You know I don't bloody care whether she actually looked scared or not, his behaviour got seriously scary and intimidating, full stop. Her behaviour, although not okay, was never scary to him. It was a fun fight with a fair bit of sexual tension chucked in, which got waaaaay out of hand and he ended it by letting her know big style who was in charge in any 'fun fight' stakes. Couple that with what we saw on lf the other night with him in her face telling her when she should and shouldn't wear make up, when he wanted her to .... Holy f'in christ

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that supes - we're just saying there are more factors and she's not as innocent in it all as might be made out.

I know Kaffs, but as we all well know, victims of abuse aren't always shrinking violets...tbh I'm a bit shocked at some of the stuff I'm reading on here tonight, when it was Nigella, for example, no-one seemed to have any doubts

FM
Originally Posted by Bethni:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Baz:
So, then us flirting ...or even being tarty ...is an *excuse* for it ?

No Baz, but if you light a fuse you need to expect an explosion.

Can't agree, imo that's a bit like saying that if a girl wears a miniscule skirt, has her boobs out etc. etc. she's 'asking for it' 


No but if she's lying back in a bed giving him all those come to bed stares, licking her lips and pulling his under wear down asking him to get into bed with her... it's a bit hard to imagine she means no.

I agree. 

The girl knows the effect she has on him (and men in general).  It'd be smarter to put 'em away love and protect yourself instead of expecting others to do that for you.

Cosmopolitan

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