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Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:

I'm sure that audience member (female) was one of the original singers in the Honeyz.  Or the dead spit.

Who's the Honeyz?

 

Trio.  They were on that recent docu along with Atomic Kitten, Liberty X and Blue.  They sang "Finally Found" (or something like that) and were set to break the US before one of them bailed out.

I think her name was Heavenly (she wasn't )

Well done!!! I asked the other night where I knew her from - knew I'd seen her before.

Is it her, Soozy?  Or just a look a like?  I can't be certain.

Cosmopolitan
Originally Posted by Supes:
 

You know I don't bloody care whether she actually looked scared or not, his behaviour got seriously scary and intimidating, full stop. Her behaviour, although not okay, was never scary to him. It was as a fun fight with a fair bit of sexual tension chucked in, which got waaaaay out of hand and he ended it by letting her know big style who was in charge in any 'fun fight' stakes. Couple that with what we saw on lf the other night with him in her face telling her when she should and shouldn't wear make up, when he wanted her to .... Holy f'in christ

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that supes - we're just saying there are more factors and she's not as innocent in it all as might be made out.

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Syd:
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
Originally Posted by Bethni:
Originally Posted by Baz:
They missed out his dreadful rants !

They did, but they showed her getting right up into his face and grabbing him by the neck first. It was that that send him over the edge. Granted he was tottering on it before it. She looked shocked he had gone though.

I think the pulling down the shorts thing really angered him too, but his reaction was completely out of order

She may have been sent packing if he had behaved differently, if he had exposed her body without her permission the 'internet' and 'OFCOM' would have gone wild.

They both should have been out

FM
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Syd:
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
Originally Posted by Bethni:
Originally Posted by Baz:
They missed out his dreadful rants !

They did, but they showed her getting right up into his face and grabbing him by the neck first. It was that that send him over the edge. Granted he was tottering on it before it. She looked shocked he had gone though.

I think the pulling down the shorts thing really angered him too, but his reaction was completely out of order

She may have been sent packing if he had behaved differently, if he had exposed her body without her permission the 'internet' and 'OFCOM' would have gone wild.

They both should have been out

I certainly agree with that Supes

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Syd:
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
Originally Posted by Bethni:
Originally Posted by Baz:
They missed out his dreadful rants !

They did, but they showed her getting right up into his face and grabbing him by the neck first. It was that that send him over the edge. Granted he was tottering on it before it. She looked shocked he had gone though.

I think the pulling down the shorts thing really angered him too, but his reaction was completely out of order

She may have been sent packing if he had behaved differently, if he had exposed her body without her permission the 'internet' and 'OFCOM' would have gone wild.

They both should have been out

 Agreed, Supes.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by Syd:
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
Originally Posted by Bethni:
Originally Posted by Baz:
They missed out his dreadful rants !

They did, but they showed her getting right up into his face and grabbing him by the neck first. It was that that send him over the edge. Granted he was tottering on it before it. She looked shocked he had gone though.

I think the pulling down the shorts thing really angered him too, but his reaction was completely out of order

She may have been sent packing if he had behaved differently, if he had exposed her body without her permission the 'internet' and 'OFCOM' would have gone wild.

They both should have been out

yep, I think so 

FM
Originally Posted by Baz:
So, then us flirting ...or even being tarty ...is an *excuse* for it ?

No Baz,  you can't excuse it, I wouldn't even try to do that, I just think it should have been pulled up by BB when she first instigated the aggression. She pulled his under wear down and made a grab for his neck/face first.

He got what he deserved when he was ejected but she was in no way afraid of him IF they then got into bed together and continued giggling about it and hugging AFTER the fact. He was foul and beyond aggressive but if he had pulled her clothes off he wouldn't have got out of that DR.

Bethni
Originally Posted by Baz:
I wasn't getting at anyone Soozy ....but I'm sorry , I can't find any excuse for his actions , no matter what she did ....cos if we make excuses for it , however tenuous , we are on very, very sticky road .. Just my opinion

I don't see anyone excusing his actions, they are just saying that Hazel behaved badly too.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Syd:
Originally Posted by Baz:
So, then us flirting ...or even being tarty ...is an *excuse* for it ?

The trouble is to many words from 'men' come from films...
The trouble is to many women think their body and their looks are irresistible and rely on them for money and power.

You don't wanna watch Une Femme et un Homme.

FM
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Baz:
So, then us flirting ...or even being tarty ...is an *excuse* for it ?

No Baz, but if you light a fuse you need to expect an explosion.

Can't agree, imo that's a bit like saying that if a girl wears a miniscule skirt, has her boobs out etc. etc. she's 'asking for it' 

FM
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Originally Posted by Syd:
Originally Posted by Baz:
So, then us flirting ...or even being tarty ...is an *excuse* for it ?

The trouble is to many words from 'men' come from films...
The trouble is to many women think their body and their looks are irresistible and rely on them for money and power.

You don't wanna watch Une Femme et un Homme.

I know I don't, I am having enough angst watching BB  

Syd
Originally Posted by kimota (Corin's Crib #1) FAKER # 1:
Originally Posted by Baz:
I wasn't getting at anyone Soozy ....but I'm sorry , I can't find any excuse for his actions , no matter what she did ....cos if we make excuses for it , however tenuous , we are on very, very sticky road .. Just my opinion

One that I wholeheartedly agree with Baz!

Yep, me too. It was broadcast on TV and there is a real responsibility to prove what is unacceptable behaviour on any level. Thin end of the wedge otherwise. 

Xochi
Originally Posted by Baz:
I wasn't getting at anyone Soozy ....but I'm sorry , I can't find any excuse for his actions , no matter what she did ....cos if we make excuses for it , however tenuous , we are on very, very sticky road .. Just my opinion

I know you weren't Baz - I just don't see it as black and white. 

 

Violence to women is always unacceptable - I'm not excusing his behaviour in any way - I'm also not gonna excuse hers - she has behaved abysmally.

 

But ......if we're drawing lines on what we accept and what we don't - shouldn't no always mean no? I do believe he tried to put distance between them - he did try - it may have looked half hearted because I think he didn't want to look stupid in trying to repel a beautiful woman and her advances. She has been very sexually aggressive IMO - she has been playing a dangerous game.

Soozy Woo

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