So bloody true

On past evidence ours will be the ones bombing them and notching up eye-watering levels of collateral damage.  Gaddafi's will be flying about in circles doing loop the loops and shit.

Auto Teller Machine?

Now that's just cynical. Don't you trust our heartless soulless morally bankrupt government then? They're just like you and me you know. Allegedly.

God I hate that phrase. Spin-ese for dead people. That and " friendly fire".

elo peoples of ze west i have comere new and want yur suport. we wil nver surender to thi west. long lif libiya.


Just seen this this shady character on Livecloud?

 Every time I see Nick Clegg I get that Jello Biafra and Mojo Nixon song in my head.

He looks a bit Bo Selecta

Yeah but them rich gits have millions invested in shares that us normal folk could never afford or defend.

You'd soon change your tune if you got to speak to him. 'Hi, I'm Nick can I call you Slinki?'.

He makes my bloody flesh crawl.

THats one rich git that will have shares in the oil there. God- the files that are set aside for 25 yrs under govt rules as "classified" will make the "UFO" files seem irrelevent.

He has sold himself and his party to the Devil May him and his party rot in hell

Gaddafi's now threatening to go mental in the Med if Libya is attacked.  Prob doesn't mean a 10 day trip to Ibiza with glow sticks and a bag of Es.

Mine too. He;s very Alan Partridge.. without the funny bits.

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 Or it never happened.

Yep.

Saif Al-Islam... is there a more annoying pr*ck than this guy?

i dont understand the implications of a 'no fly zone'
could someone tell me why it means going to war please..?


signed


'thick* of birmingham

It means the Lybians can no longer fly their own aircraft which they were using to kill their own people basically Pirate - if they do then the UN will shoot them down ...

Ummmm, with what? We're scrapping aircraft carriers, spy planes and fighter pilots. Britain should stay out of it and - hey, ho, here's an idea - let Libya's Arab League neighbours sort it out.
Nothing whatsoever to do with us.

Couldn't agree more Deman

Libya have agreed to an immediate ceasefire

Have to disagree, Demantoid.  It is to do with us, give that we're fellow humans drifting around space on the same rock.  Clearly there are plently of examples of global intervention that haven't quite *cough* gone according to plan but there others to the contrary.

Suppose we did nothing and get to watch a month of Gadaffi slaughtering folk in Benghazi on the news night after night.  Where's the humanity in that?

It's nothing to do with us has always struck me as particularly hard-hearted attitude to take.  WW11 wasn't technically anything to do with us until we told Hitler to cut it out.  Be some stain on Earth's history - more so than it already is - if we'd abandoned the Jews and the Poles etc etc to that particular miscreants philosophies and actions (I know that the reasons for entering that war are a little more complex than that, but you get my drift).

Having said that Antiope why is it always us Brits that end up doin the dirty work why can't the French get their hands dirty for a change - even better like Deman says let their own neighbours sort it - after all no matter what happens something/someone else will kick off further along - I fear we will never have our boys home at this rate ..EVER!
Bloody toss despots!

Golly are you lot still at it? 

In all fairness slimfern the French have pretty much led the way here. They were the first to officially recognise the "rebels" (what else can we call them but it seems wrong) and have taken front of stage at the UN. Their airbases will be used as well as an aircraft carrier they already have in the Med.

And although I and so many others slated Obama and the rest of the US for dithering about the whole issue I have to say it's worked out really well. More by accident than design I'm sure.   But the US standing back has allowed the Arab League to come forward and maybe enabled China and Russia to abstain rather than take up their usual position 180 degrees opposite the US.

Of course Ghaddafi has announced a ceasefire and if you believe that then you probably believed there really were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq ... he will do whatever it takes to stay in power. I just hope that any UN intervention doesn't escalate into anything more - that it just gives the Libyans the breathing space they need to sort out their own future. 

***cleans rose tinted spectacles**

You mean there weren't NO weapons of mass distruction 

I just wish you men would get a grip & relax - us wimmin are fed up with our boys fighting all the bliddy time! 
Wouldn't happen in my house !



(and I know it is no laffing matter but FGS am so fed up of the constant bickering between nations)

It would be good for once if all the UN countries agreed 100% on something. Thinking of themselves as usual, the countries who abstained, ( due to economic ties)  FFS people are getting killed for protesting against a dictator. Those countries that abstained are chicken shit yellow bellied IMO.

Or they know the whole place is full of bloody looneys who will find one way or another of killing each other so hey just leave them to it. Their 'neighbours' don't give a flying because they're just as looney tunes but hey we get a gold medal for 'caring' how it all turns out. Whoop. De. Doo.

Crap.

The actions of Libya's geographical neighbours are irrelevant. 

Our be-knighted leaders may have some God complex or 'place in history' notion behind them but that's of no relevance to the ground..  Nadda.


I'm not particularly interested in the motivations of our heads of government.  Concern about that over the humane concern over fellow human beings faced with annihilation strikes me as somewhat self-interested and saturated in solipsism.

Absolute bollocks.  We sort them out then leave then they'll be killing each other again just like they were before. Are you relishing our ground attacks with 'collateral' human damage? Hey it must be great to be so indifferent to seeing our boys go down for nothing while a massive percentage of them go down for a lost cause too. Hurrah for your bravado.

That's very unfair, Prom.

Do you not believe everyone deserves to live in a 'free' society?
All I've heard from those rebelling is for a chance for just that.

I believe they are all as cuckoo as each other. Make of that what you will.

Sorry, I don't recognise the 'our boys' notion.  But then I have little or no tribal loyalties.  Always seemed a little base to me but I recognise the attraction. 

Bravado applied to me is probably the funniest, most non-sensical, description ever bestowed in my general direction...

Yaah, I'm a reet flag waving, King and country chap, me.   [btw: Using the term "our boys" tends to nail you to the bravado mast..... ]

They may well be killing each other in the future....if you'd rather sit back and watch 'em die first to protect your boys then good on ya.

Oh aye, I right relish death and destruction - collateral or otherwise.  That's me through and through.  I'd kill 'em meself if I could.

At least engage with intelligence, Demon.  God knows, you're occasionally capable, lol

Unfortunately, your post is retarded. You're not but your post is. 

Racist, I'm guessing.

You up on the chit chat from the Libyan underground?

I hate that we keep going to war. It is an often thankless task where the people we are supposed to be liberating end up hating us. Meanwhine our military personnel are killed in action or damaged for life. Its a pretty awful state of affairs which we are not very well eqipped for. Our airforce has been almost crippled by successive goverment cuts. Labour killed off our Jaguars and Sea Harriers. Tories killed off the Ground Attack Harrier and Ark Royal. Our strike capability is restricted to the few Tornado squadrons that remain. Why don't we send our support to Japan instead of Libya. Now there is a real worthy cause.

I'd rather they didn't die for no good reason. I can see why it means nothing to you, since you seem to see some deeper meaning and greater sense of righteousness in the whole gung-ho approach. There is nothing to gain at all in this situation and everything to lose not just for us but for them too.

And they are massively down the evolutionary ladder compared to us. Some fictitious God or wildly insane 'leader' motivates them. Leave them all to their madness it is NOT worth British troops dying for. Never will be.

Wow! 

I think you'll find that they're actually rather fed up with their 'wildly insane leader'. 

And they are massively down the evolutionary ladder compared to us. Some fictitious God or wildly insane 'leader' motivates them. Leave them all to their madness it is NOT worth British troops dying for. Never will be.


Well that's depressing. 

Good luck with that one, mate.