It was a play fight, from what I saw.
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He'll be crisp by now.
Roller iron. I've got a Kenwood.
Originally Posted by Videostar:
It was a play fight, from what I saw.
It started that way, but there was always an undercurrent of anger from Daley , as he was annoyed that Hazel had spent about an hour talking with Charlie. He really seemed to lose it after Hazel grabbed his shorts and started with the threats. It was then that she realised he wasn't playing anymore!
Originally Posted by kimota (Corin's Crib #1) FAKER # 1:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
It was a play fight, from what I saw.
It started that way, but there was always an undercurrent of anger from Daley , as he was annoyed that Hazel had spent about an hour talking with Charlie. He really seemed to lose it after Hazel grabbed his shorts and started with the threats. It was then that she realised he wasn't playing anymore!
Don't get me wrong, I didn't like Daley and he was aggressive several times in that house, and I hate aggression, but in that fight with Hazel she did give as good as she got and she didn't seem upset by any of it, until BB called him to the DR, and she went and sat on the chair, you could see the wheels turning in her mind as to how she was going to play this situation.
Hazel hung Daley out to dry
Shame it wasn't by the bollox.
...and yes, she should be out too.
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Hazel hung Daley out to dry
Shame it wasn't by the bollox.
...and yes, she should be out too.
But I doubt she'd be able to get enough of a grip around something that small.
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Hazel hung Daley out to dry
Shame it wasn't by the bollox.
...and yes, she should be out too.
I agree. She seemed to thrive on the thrill of a bit of danger knowing full well that BB would be there to save her if need be.
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Hazel hung Daley out to dry
Shame it wasn't by the bollox.
...and yes, she should be out too.
I agree... had ÂĢ25 on her to leave last Friday.
Damn that annoying wolf girl!
As I just mentioned in another thread I've not seen tonight's hl show as I had to visit someone. But from what I saw on a vid posted earlier today I was surprised Hazel didn't pick up on some signals from Daley. She kept saying she wanted a cuddle, he seemed drunk, tired and it got to the point after her taking his cover away he just wanted it back so he could go to sleep. Like others in no way would I ever condone physical threats but from what the vid showed it seemed she just wouldn't let him go to sleep because of her needs. I hope BB gave her some advice on how her actions/behaviour can give out the wrong message to certain types of personalities. When I watch the recorded hl's tomorrow maybe I'll think differently than how I do now.
Give a man enough rope and he will hang himself morelike.....and she gave him a lot of rope
But he has issues, serious ones
Originally Posted by Yellow Rose:
As I just mentioned in another thread I've not seen tonight's hl show as I had to visit someone. But from what I saw on a vid posted earlier today I was surprised Hazel didn't pick up on some signals from Daley. She kept saying she wanted a cuddle, he seemed drunk, tired and it got to the point after her taking his cover away he just wanted it back so he could go to sleep. Like others in no way would I ever condone physical threats but from what the vid showed it seemed she just wouldn't let him go to sleep because of her needs. I hope BB gave her some advice on how her actions/behaviour can give out the wrong message to certain types of personalities. When I watch the recorded hl's tomorrow maybe I'll think differently than how I do now.
all they need do is stop the lesson there, that encompasses all sorts of behaviours/personalities she is likely to encompass throughout her life. .
she needs a lesson in learning you can't use your tits, short dresses with no knickers and other womenly wiles to get your way missus cos it will get you into trouble if you try it on the wrong person who may be weak cos there are people out there who are like that with no control compasses built in.. have respect for yourself girl and stop using your body for your living try using a brain instead.. for good not for evilish ways 
Does all this mean the Vegas wedding is off?
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Does all this mean the Vegas wedding is off?
I think so, and I bought a hat too. 
I got a hat as well 
The difference why he's out and she is'nt is she did'nt grab him around the throat and threaten to nut him....if he'd have been left in and gone on to hit someone else in the house everyone would have been up in arms, he's a boxer, he's trained in self control but it does'nt seem to have worked with his twisted head....
Maybe he should have done a Marcus with the tissues in the loo. .
oh not that sort of explosion. .
I'll get me coat 
Originally Posted by stonks:
The difference why he's out and she is'nt is she did'nt grab him around the throat and threaten to nut him....if he'd have been left in and gone on to hit someone else in the house everyone would have been up in arms, he's a boxer, he's trained in self control but it does'nt seem to have worked with his twisted head....
they are also by nature, aggressive - it comes as part and parcel of being a boxer.
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by stonks:
The difference why he's out and she is'nt is she did'nt grab him around the throat and threaten to nut him....if he'd have been left in and gone on to hit someone else in the house everyone would have been up in arms, he's a boxer, he's trained in self control but it does'nt seem to have worked with his twisted head....
they are also by nature, aggressive - it comes as part and parcel of being a boxer.
I'm not sure that's necessarily the case tbh
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by stonks:
The difference why he's out and she is'nt is she did'nt grab him around the throat and threaten to nut him....if he'd have been left in and gone on to hit someone else in the house everyone would have been up in arms, he's a boxer, he's trained in self control but it does'nt seem to have worked with his twisted head....
they are also by nature, aggressive - it comes as part and parcel of being a boxer.
I'm not sure that's necessarily the case tbh
if they want to win they have to have a certain amount of aggression or they end up on their backsides - it's not just technique, there has to be a force behind it and it's usually aggression fuelled but that's just my opinion 
Tonightâs Big Brother 2013 sees Hazel OâSullivan telling the housemates about why Daley Ojuederie was kicked out of the house.
Yesterday Big Brother booted Daley from the show for being abusive, aggressive and threatening to Hazel in the safe house the night before.
Following the announcement to the house by Big Brother, the group were naturally keen to understand what had happened.
Detective Dan naturally led the questioning, asking Hazel: âDid he try it on hard or something?â
âNo he just flippedâĶI donât need anybody knowing this at allâĶit was just really weird, like we were messing and I hugged himâĶwe were messing around pulling on each otherâs covers and play fighting like you do when youâre drunk,â Hazel explained. âI donât know he just turned; the eyes and everything. I had my knees up to his chest trying to push him away, really really intense.
âI just grabbed his throat, pushing him away saying you donât think I am afraid of aggressive men do you, I was pushing him away. Then at that second Big Brother were like âDaley come to the diary room.â I didnât want anyone to be kicked out, just got a little bit of a fright.â
Dan claimed: âI am not surprised this has happened.â
Hazel admitted: âI just canât believe it got him kicked out.â
But Dan asked: âYou were scared right?â
âYeah, I was terrified,â commented Hazel.
Dan told her: âThere you go. If you were scared and you felt threatened by that then even if it was a f***ing joke it was too much then the right thing has happened.â
Speaking later with Dan and Charlie, Hazel said: âI just donât want my whole time in this thing to have been about him. My mind was changed last night; he was very drunk last night.â
She added: âAs well and good as it is being in the there, it is very intense. Iâm a very straight person, my personality doesnât change much. So when people flip on me, when I donât know what somebody is going to do next, that frightens me.â
Big Brother UK airs tonight at 10PM on Channel 5.
Read more: http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-...t.html#ixzz2ZEIDkEz9
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by stonks:
The difference why he's out and she is'nt is she did'nt grab him around the throat and threaten to nut him....if he'd have been left in and gone on to hit someone else in the house everyone would have been up in arms, he's a boxer, he's trained in self control but it does'nt seem to have worked with his twisted head....
they are also by nature, aggressive - it comes as part and parcel of being a boxer.
I would agree with that to some extent. My husbamd always wanted to box as a boy but never got the opportunity until he was 28 (and a father). He joined a very successful amateur club much to the amusement of the younger lads. He soon won their respect as he worked harder and got fitter than every single one of them.
In the ring - he was rubbish - he only had two fights but really didn't have a 'killer' instinct' - it just wasn't there - he is sooo far from an aggressive person - there does need to be some aggression - you can't really box, certainly not professionally without it IMO.
Well said Sooz and respect to Mr Woo.
He got in there.
that's why a lot of young lads take up boxing as it's a controlled way to channel any aggression and usually they learn discipline and have an outlet to let out any pent up frustration.
I don't think this has been entirely successful with Daley but I'm not entirely sure he was enthusiastic about his boxing. 
Originally Posted by Pengy:
I don't think this has been entirely successful with Daley but I'm not entirely sure he was enthusiastic about his boxing.
Didn't I read somewhere that he had had only a couple of fights in the last 4 years?
Originally Posted by stonks:
The difference why he's out and she is'nt is she did'nt grab him around the throat and threaten to nut him....if he'd have been left in and gone on to hit someone else in the house everyone would have been up in arms, he's a boxer, he's trained in self control but it does'nt seem to have worked with his twisted head....
She should have been evicted for pulling his shorts down, if a bloke did that to a girl they would have been kicked out
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by stonks:
The difference why he's out and she is'nt is she did'nt grab him around the throat and threaten to nut him....if he'd have been left in and gone on to hit someone else in the house everyone would have been up in arms, he's a boxer, he's trained in self control but it does'nt seem to have worked with his twisted head....
She should have been evicted for pulling his shorts down, if a bloke did that to a girl they would have been kicked out
BB are entirely to blame for this fiasco Aims. They manipulated the couple into the SH in the hope they would achieve their stupid holy grail of on-screen sex. So when things get hot and saucy and then scary they suddenly become the moral judges of how it all panned out. Shocking. And Hazel should have been thrown out too btw.
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by stonks:
The difference why he's out and she is'nt is she did'nt grab him around the throat and threaten to nut him....if he'd have been left in and gone on to hit someone else in the house everyone would have been up in arms, he's a boxer, he's trained in self control but it does'nt seem to have worked with his twisted head....
they are also by nature, aggressive - it comes as part and parcel of being a boxer.
I'm not sure that's necessarily the case tbh
if they want to win they have to have a certain amount of aggression or they end up on their backsides - it's not just technique, there has to be a force behind it and it's usually aggression fuelled but that's just my opinion
Obviously they have to be able to be aggressive in the ring - I just question the 'by nature, aggressive' tag. Sure if they're in a fight and in the zone.. I'm just struggling to see the like of Barry McGuigan going around in Daley mode, trying to look macho and beating his missus up.
*waits for someone finding a Barry McGuigan wife beating story*
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by stonks:
The difference why he's out and she is'nt is she did'nt grab him around the throat and threaten to nut him....if he'd have been left in and gone on to hit someone else in the house everyone would have been up in arms, he's a boxer, he's trained in self control but it does'nt seem to have worked with his twisted head....
She should have been evicted for pulling his shorts down, if a bloke did that to a girl they would have been kicked out
I agree It's assault and others have got kicked out for less...
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Originally Posted by Aimee:
Originally Posted by stonks:
The difference why he's out and she is'nt is she did'nt grab him around the throat and threaten to nut him....if he'd have been left in and gone on to hit someone else in the house everyone would have been up in arms, he's a boxer, he's trained in self control but it does'nt seem to have worked with his twisted head....
She should have been evicted for pulling his shorts down, if a bloke did that to a girl they would have been kicked out
BB are entirely to blame for this fiasco Aims. They manipulated the couple into the SH in the hope they would achieve their stupid holy grail of on-screen sex. So when things get hot and saucy and then scary they suddenly become the moral judges of how it all panned out. Shocking. And Hazel should have been thrown out too btw.
Yep
Iâm seeing quite a few posts saying Hazel should have also been bootedâĶ but Iâm not clear what she should have been booted for, exactly.
Originally Posted by Cold Sweat:
Iâm seeing quite a few posts saying Hazel should have also been bootedâĶ but Iâm not clear what she should have been booted for, exactly.
My problem is that she sexually provoked him to a degree that he couldn't have controlled that aggressive behaviour. She humiliated him very easily with every interaction she had with him. The pulling down of his pants was surely enough to get her evicted imo.
Originally Posted by Cold Sweat:
Iâm seeing quite a few posts saying Hazel should have also been bootedâĶ but Iâm not clear what she should have been booted for, exactly.
Sexual harrassment.
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by stonks:
The difference why he's out and she is'nt is she did'nt grab him around the throat and threaten to nut him....if he'd have been left in and gone on to hit someone else in the house everyone would have been up in arms, he's a boxer, he's trained in self control but it does'nt seem to have worked with his twisted head....
they are also by nature, aggressive - it comes as part and parcel of being a boxer.
I'm not sure that's necessarily the case tbh
if they want to win they have to have a certain amount of aggression or they end up on their backsides - it's not just technique, there has to be a force behind it and it's usually aggression fuelled but that's just my opinion
Obviously they have to be able to be aggressive in the ring - I just question the 'by nature, aggressive' tag. Sure if they're in a fight and in the zone.. I'm just struggling to see the like of Barry McGuigan going around in Daley mode, trying to look macho and beating his missus up.
*waits for someone finding a Barry McGuigan wife beating story*
Not heard of a Mc Guigan one but Mike Tyson and Frank Bruno spring to mind.
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Cold Sweat:
Iâm seeing quite a few posts saying Hazel should have also been bootedâĶ but Iâm not clear what she should have been booted for, exactly.
Sexual harrassment.
Yep, in a nutshell Kaffs.
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Originally Posted by Cold Sweat:
Iâm seeing quite a few posts saying Hazel should have also been bootedâĶ but Iâm not clear what she should have been booted for, exactly.
My problem is that she sexually provoked him to a degree that he couldn't have controlled that aggressive behaviour. She humiliated him very easily with every interaction she had with him. The pulling down of his pants was surely enough to get her evicted imo.
..and she's humiliated him continuously for a couple weeks before that - deliberately trying to make him have an erection all over the house ... only (imo) so she could demonstrate her power over him.
Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:
Originally Posted by Cold Sweat:
Iâm seeing quite a few posts saying Hazel should have also been bootedâĶ but Iâm not clear what she should have been booted for, exactly.
My problem is that she sexually provoked him to a degree that he couldn't have controlled that aggressive behaviour. She humiliated him very easily with every interaction she had with him. The pulling down of his pants was surely enough to get her evicted imo.
I think he did find that very humiliating .....he was angry before that but it does seem to be the pulling down of pants that stepped it up a notch. TBH - what was she thinking? Did she honestly think that was gonna 'cool' the situation?
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by stonks:
The difference why he's out and she is'nt is she did'nt grab him around the throat and threaten to nut him....if he'd have been left in and gone on to hit someone else in the house everyone would have been up in arms, he's a boxer, he's trained in self control but it does'nt seem to have worked with his twisted head....
they are also by nature, aggressive - it comes as part and parcel of being a boxer.
I'm not sure that's necessarily the case tbh
if they want to win they have to have a certain amount of aggression or they end up on their backsides - it's not just technique, there has to be a force behind it and it's usually aggression fuelled but that's just my opinion
Obviously they have to be able to be aggressive in the ring - I just question the 'by nature, aggressive' tag. Sure if they're in a fight and in the zone.. I'm just struggling to see the like of Barry McGuigan going around in Daley mode, trying to look macho and beating his missus up.
*waits for someone finding a Barry McGuigan wife beating story*
Not heard of a Mc Guigan one but Mike Tyson and Frank Bruno spring to mind.
haha.. I deliberately chose Barry! I think what I'm trying to say is I imagine the 'aggression' a boxer needs in the ring isn't necessarily that he needs to want to kill his opponent, I think it's the same kind of aggression a supreme athlete needs to keep going in a race, or throwing a javelin or whatever. I know what I mean I just don't think every boxer is walking around trying to contain the urge to hit people outside the ring.