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Brown has been caught on mic after a meet and greet session in Rochdale, describing one lady, a long time Labour voter, as a "Bigotted Woman".  His comments came on the back of an exchange between him and the lady regarding the current immigration problems in our Country.

Some popular polls had already put Brown in third place behind the other two main party leaders.  This latest development is bound to have caused further significant damage, as his comments show that he has become out of touch with today's politics and today's people.

I have mentioned in previous threads on this forum that Labour could probably win this election if they'd had the guts to ditch Brown and find a better leader.  I feel today's events have vindicated my opinion on this matter.  Brown is single handedly ruining the Labour Party's popularity and reputation.  It is little wonder that the likes of Nick Clegg are saying they would refuse to work with the Labour Party while Brown is at the helm.

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Having just seem this item on the lunctime BBC news, this will do major damage to Labour's chances. The damage according to BBC political correspondents is not so much as to what Brown said in the car, but that it shows to the public the difference between the public image of Brown and how he can be in private. It is only time before the media and his opponents will refer back to those reports some weeks ago about Brown the bully.

For Demantoid and for others who cannot yet hear what was said, this is the BBC article in question. What this article does not say, but the news does is to indicate that Mrs Duffy's question on immigration was her concern over employment prospects resulting from the influx of workers from Eastern Europe.The BBC news item also reported that Mrs Duffy, after Gordon Brown had apologised to her, said that her postal vote (for Labour) would now remain unposted.

The BBC article:

Gordon Brown describes pensioner as a 'bigoted woman'

Prime Minister Gordon Brown has been caught on microphone describing a voter he had just spoken to in Rochdale as a "bigoted woman".

Sixty five-year-old Gillian Duffy had challenged Mr Brown on a number of issues including immigration and crime.

As he got into his car, he was still wearing a broadcast microphone and was heard to say "that was a disaster".

Mr Brown later apologised after the tape was played to him as he was interviewed on BBC Radio 2.

After listening to the recording, with his forehead resting on his hand, he said: "I do apologise if I've said anything that has been hurtful."

The comments were made after the conversation with Mrs Duffy which ended with him complimenting her and her family.

Off camera, but not realising he still had a Sky News microphone pinned to his shirt, he was head to tell an aide: "That was a disaster - they should never have put me with that woman. Whose idea was that? It's just ridiculous..."

Gillian Duffy: "I want to know why I was called a bigot"

Asked what she had said, he is heard to reply: "Ugh everything! She's just a sort of bigoted woman that said she used to be Labour. I mean it's just ridiculous. I don't know why Sue brought her up towards me."

Mrs Duffy, a widow, said after hearing of Mr Brown's comments: "I'm very upset. He's an educated person. Why has he come out with words like that?

"He's supposed to be leading the country and he's calling an ordinary woman who's come up and asked questions that most people would ask him...It's going to be tax, tax, tax for another 20 years to get out of this national debt, and he's calling me a bigot."

She had earlier told reporters she was a lifelong Labour voter and described Mr Brown as being "very nice."

BBC News Channel chief political correspondent Laura Kuenssberg said this was "the worst moment of the campaign so far" for the Labour Party. Their tactic of putting him in contact with more "ordinary people" had "gone quite horribly wrong".

Brown: 'I apologise if I've said anything that has been hurtful'

Speaking on Radio 2's Jeremy Vine show, Mr Brown said: "Of course I apologise if I've said anything that's been offensive and I would never put myself in a position where I would want to say anything like that about a woman I'd met.

"I blame myself for what is done, but you've got to remember that this was me being helpful to the broadcasters, with my microphone on, rushing into the car because I had to get to another appointment and they have chosen to play my private conversation. These things can happen, I apologise profusely to the lady concerned."

Gordon Brown has since telephoned Mrs Duffy to personally apologise for the comments, telling her he was very sorry and said she "is a good woman".

When asked did this in any way make up for the comments she said "no - absolutely not".

A spokesman for the prime minister said: "Mr Brown has apologised to Mrs Duffy personally by phone. He does not think that she is bigoted. He was letting off steam in the car after a difficult conversation.

"But this is exactly the sort of conversation that is important in an election campaign and which he will continue to have with voters."

The Conservatives said Mr Brown's comments spoke for themselves.

Shadow chancellor George Osborne said: "That's the thing about general elections, they do reveal the truth about people."

El Loro
There must be many occasions when politicians struggle to suppress their true feelings.
I thought this woman did seem somewhat uncareful with her choice of words.  I thought she was gobby with one of those tight-lipped cocky mouths. However the recording of his comments afterwards was obviously a big mistake.
Since the day he just drifted into the prime ministers chair I have been surprised that his own party think he is good for them. I am still surprised. A few have dared to challenge him of course but have been cut down. I think Brown is a burden to the labour party. But then who else is there?
brisket
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Personally i think it's wrong to broadcast private conversations. As I understand it he kept the mic on as a favour so as to avoid having to mic up again for his radio interview. As I see it - all he is guilty of is being incredibly naive on this occasion. Do people honestly think that other leaders/campaigners don't spout their views when out of earshot.
The woman has every right to hold the views that she does - she was being a bit covky IMO .......firing questions (to show how knowledgable she was /or wasn't) she wasn't even listening to his responses - Just as she's entitled to her views I think GB is entitled to his.
Soozy Woo
Thanks, Elo Loro. We're still none the wiser about how this woman worded her 'concerns' about immigration though.

As for this:
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Shadow chancellor George Osborne said: "That's the thing about general elections, they do reveal the truth about people."
Except in your case, Georgie, because DC obviously thinks you're a liability and keeping you well out of the public eye and off the campaign trail. Some right-hand man!
Demantoid
Referenceemantoid
Thanks, Elo Loro. We're still none the wiser about how this woman worded her 'concerns' about immigration though.
According to the Telegraph, this is the exchange between Mrs Duffy and Gordon Brown relating to immigration:

During their earlier conversation, she had told the Prime Minister that she was concerned that vulnerable people were missing out on support while those who did not deserve them where able to claim benefits.

She went on: "All these Eastern Europeans, where are they coming from?"

Mr Brown said that a million Europeans had come to the United Kingdom, but that a similar number of Britons were now living on the continent.

Mrs Duffy told him that she felt that the issue of immigration was not being discussed properly for reasons of political correctness. "You can't say anything about immigrants," she said.



El Loro
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She went on: "All these Eastern Europeans, where are they coming from?" Mr Brown said that a million Europeans had come to the United Kingdom, but that a similar number of Britons were now living on the continent. Mrs Duffy told him that she felt that the issue of immigration was not being discussed properly for reasons of political correctness. "You can't say anything about immigrants," she said.
Eastern Europe, presumably.
Actually, reading that, I can see where Brown got frustrated. She complained you "can't talk about immigrants". But they WERE talking about immigrants. And she still had a problem with them, even though he told her there were about as many Brits who'd moved abroad. Sounds like an entrenched mindset to me.
Demantoid
It is true that it has become socially unacceptable to discuss the problem of immigration in this country.  By doing so you face the prospect of being labelled racist, bigoted, and so on.

It is all very well that an equal number of people have left Britain proportionately to the number of immigrants who have come to our Country (although where is the proof for this statement?).  The elderly, poor and vulnerable in our Country should still be the priority.  Indeed in any Country.
SpiderMonkey
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In answer to the question in the thread title... I do hope so He obviously knows he has made a major boo boo.... cos he is now on his way to the woman's house to personally apologise to her!
I find it bizarre that he would want to apologise to her, unless of course, his allegation of her being a bigot was incorrect in the first place...
SpiderMonkey
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I find it bizarre that he would want to apologise to her, unless of course, his allegation of her being a bigot was incorrect in the first place...
Exactly....  He has shown how arrogant and two faced  he is.... bigotry aside..... one minute, on camera it was *very nice to speak to her*... the next the meeting was a *disaster*!!
Baz

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