Cologne, their life is not for me, at all, I honestly think the pair of them are just attention addicts (being polite there) and they both love nowt more than a photo-op. I also think that the pair of them would sell their grannies to get on the front of OK.
And I can see what folks are getting at...but I'm of the opinion that it probably was no more than a school thing for Harvey...
When Harvey was born, Katie's Mam helped a lot with childcare anyway because she was single and working, so he's used to being around her...I dunno...their call really...
To be fair, the pair of them have made other judgement calls that have been against my way of thinking far more than this one.
quote:my daughter has the same condition
As me, not Harvey (though oddly enough my best mates kid has the same one as Harvey)
Over and out, I'm gonna browse for a new dress...I'm wide awake
Penny Gabrielwise (Guest)
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
yeah yeah ok - so IF .... FOR REAL ... SHE ??? HE ..... SHE'D gone... HE ...... blah blah.....
I have a few issues with some of the comments I have read on this thread.
Firstly, it's left me flabbergasted that Peter and Katie are being slated over their treatment of Harvey in leaving him at home to continue his usual routine.
We cannot treat ALL disabled people the same, their needs vary the same as anyone elses. What is right for a disabled child that you may know, is not the same as the next child and the one after that.
I can understand anyone who is a parent of a child with complex needs having an opinion, but we can ALL only say what is right for our own child, not everyone elses. It's not fair to label Katie as a terrible Mother, or lambast Peter as he wrote a song with one hand and neglected Harvey with the other.
What gives anyone the right to wade in with such awful accusations?
The irony of all this is that by protesting that Harvey has been dumped etc etc is doing him a GREAT diservice. To consider him as a "photo opportunity" is plain nasty, are the non disabled children in the family not photo opportunities merely because they are 'well'? Hmmm but then we have someone else offer the opinion that his disabilities make him NOT good for photos?? My God! these notions are FAR more offensive than two parents who have made a decision which will have been deemed in the childs BEST interests!
For all the slating Katie Price is receiving, I'd say only a small proportion of it is worthy, the rest is just pack mentality running amok. Specualtion and judgement, without due thought. How ugly.
Harvey has very much been a massive part of life in the Andre household. They clearly love him, cater for him and respect him. Do you think a child of Harvey's complex nature 'fakes it' when the cameras start to roll?? Or can we believe that the warmth, bond, love and joy shared with BOTH parents is GENUINE?
Harvey hasn't grown in a world that happens without him, he's been engaged, supported and cherished. To suggest he's now been abandoned due to his disabilies is not only ludicrous, it's downright offensive. In fact, much of what has been said in this thread is beneath contempt.
Firstly, it's left me flabbergasted that Peter and Katie are being slated over their treatment of Harvey in leaving him at home to continue his usual routine.
We cannot treat ALL disabled people the same, their needs vary the same as anyone elses. What is right for a disabled child that you may know, is not the same as the next child and the one after that.
I can understand anyone who is a parent of a child with complex needs having an opinion, but we can ALL only say what is right for our own child, not everyone elses. It's not fair to label Katie as a terrible Mother, or lambast Peter as he wrote a song with one hand and neglected Harvey with the other.
What gives anyone the right to wade in with such awful accusations?
The irony of all this is that by protesting that Harvey has been dumped etc etc is doing him a GREAT diservice. To consider him as a "photo opportunity" is plain nasty, are the non disabled children in the family not photo opportunities merely because they are 'well'? Hmmm but then we have someone else offer the opinion that his disabilities make him NOT good for photos?? My God! these notions are FAR more offensive than two parents who have made a decision which will have been deemed in the childs BEST interests!
For all the slating Katie Price is receiving, I'd say only a small proportion of it is worthy, the rest is just pack mentality running amok. Specualtion and judgement, without due thought. How ugly.
Harvey has very much been a massive part of life in the Andre household. They clearly love him, cater for him and respect him. Do you think a child of Harvey's complex nature 'fakes it' when the cameras start to roll?? Or can we believe that the warmth, bond, love and joy shared with BOTH parents is GENUINE?
Harvey hasn't grown in a world that happens without him, he's been engaged, supported and cherished. To suggest he's now been abandoned due to his disabilies is not only ludicrous, it's downright offensive. In fact, much of what has been said in this thread is beneath contempt.
Well saidquote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:
I have a few issues with some of the comments I have read on this thread.
Firstly, it's left me flabbergasted that Peter and Katie are being slated over their treatment of Harvey in leaving him at home to continue his usual routine.
We cannot treat ALL disabled people the same, their needs vary the same as anyone elses. What is right for a disabled child that you may know, is not the same as the next child and the one after that.
I can understand anyone who is a parent of a child with complex needs having an opinion, but we can ALL only say what is right for our own child, not everyone elses. It's not fair to label Katie as a terrible Mother, or lambast Peter as he wrote a song with one hand and neglected Harvey with the other.
What gives anyone the right to wade in with such awful accusations?
The irony of all this is that by protesting that Harvey has been dumped etc etc is doing him a GREAT diservice. To consider him as a "photo opportunity" is plain nasty, are the non disabled children in the family not photo opportunities merely because they are 'well'? Hmmm but then we have someone else offer the opinion that his disabilities make him NOT good for photos?? My God! these notions are FAR more offensive than two parents who have made a decision which will have been deemed in the childs BEST interests!
For all the slating Katie Price is receiving, I'd say only a small proportion of it is worthy, the rest is just pack mentality running amok. Specualtion and judgement, without due thought. How ugly.
Harvey has very much been a massive part of life in the Andre household. They clearly love him, cater for him and respect him. Do you think a child of Harvey's complex nature 'fakes it' when the cameras start to roll?? Or can we believe that the warmth, bond, love and joy shared with BOTH parents is GENUINE?
Harvey hasn't grown in a world that happens without him, he's been engaged, supported and cherished. To suggest he's now been abandoned due to his disabilies is not only ludicrous, it's downright offensive. In fact, much of what has been said in this thread is beneath contempt.
quote:Originally posted by StGeorgina:
I have a few issues with some of the comments I have read on this thread.
Firstly, it's left me flabbergasted that Peter and Katie are being slated over their treatment of Harvey in leaving him at home to continue his usual routine.
We cannot treat ALL disabled people the same, their needs vary the same as anyone elses. What is right for a disabled child that you may know, is not the same as the next child and the one after that.
I can understand anyone who is a parent of a child with complex needs having an opinion, but we can ALL only say what is right for our own child, not everyone elses. It's not fair to label Katie as a terrible Mother, or lambast Peter as he wrote a song with one hand and neglected Harvey with the other.
What gives anyone the right to wade in with such awful accusations?
The irony of all this is that by protesting that Harvey has been dumped etc etc is doing him a GREAT diservice. To consider him as a "photo opportunity" is plain nasty, are the non disabled children in the family not photo opportunities merely because they are 'well'? Hmmm but then we have someone else offer the opinion that his disabilities make him NOT good for photos?? My God! these notions are FAR more offensive than two parents who have made a decision which will have been deemed in the childs BEST interests!
For all the slating Katie Price is receiving, I'd say only a small proportion of it is worthy, the rest is just pack mentality running amok. Specualtion and judgement, without due thought. How ugly.
Harvey has very much been a massive part of life in the Andre household. They clearly love him, cater for him and respect him. Do you think a child of Harvey's complex nature 'fakes it' when the cameras start to roll?? Or can we believe that the warmth, bond, love and joy shared with BOTH parents is GENUINE?
Harvey hasn't grown in a world that happens without him, he's been engaged, supported and cherished. To suggest he's now been abandoned due to his disabilies is not only ludicrous, it's downright offensive. In fact, much of what has been said in this thread is beneath contempt.
Excellently put. I strongly dissapprove of the implication/remark made by another fm that as Harvey is unphotogenic he gets left behind. That's plain wrong.
Maybe harvey needs stability and that come in the form of routine, I do think a lot is staged for the cameras.
She clearly adores her children and to allege that little boy is in some way being neglected is ridiculous.
Who wants to bet that Harvey has been left many times before to continue with his normal routine while the two orange people go off for a week here and there on 'business'
It never made the news before I bet, and is only doing so now because they have split.. I doubt it was a one off. . nor abnormal either...
I'd be more worried if they had kept shifting the poor kid all over the place while they did their 'work' rather than letting him have the continuity which I believe his condition requires..
It never made the news before I bet, and is only doing so now because they have split.. I doubt it was a one off. . nor abnormal either...
I'd be more worried if they had kept shifting the poor kid all over the place while they did their 'work' rather than letting him have the continuity which I believe his condition requires..
I think Katie and Peter's TV life is staged for entertainment value. I think their real life is totally different and we never really know what goes on behind closed doors.quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
Maybe harvey needs stability and that come in the form of routine, I do think a lot is staged for the cameras.
quote:Originally posted by Oscar:
She clearly adores her children and to allege that little boy is in some way being neglected is ridiculous.
It was brought to attention by her though, in an attempt to score points off Pete..."Pete left Harvey Home Alone"..which to me undermines how odious she is.
blimey... that is out of order..quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:quote:Originally posted by Oscar:
She clearly adores her children and to allege that little boy is in some way being neglected is ridiculous.
It was brought to attention by her though, in an attempt to score points off Pete..."Pete left Harvey Home Alone"..which to me undermines how odious she is.
she is a really bitter and twisted person..
she's turned into her arch nemesis. .the other orange bird from essex.. was in ZBB and has the white cliffs of Dover in her gob and who's name I've completely forgotten and also got her baps out for the 'boys'.. she was bitter and twisted too..
quote:Originally posted by Mount Olympus:blimey... that is out of order..quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:quote:Originally posted by Oscar:
She clearly adores her children and to allege that little boy is in some way being neglected is ridiculous.
It was brought to attention by her though, in an attempt to score points off Pete..."Pete left Harvey Home Alone"..which to me undermines how odious she is.
she is a really bitter and twisted person..
she's turned into her arch nemesis. .the other orange bird from essex.. was in ZBB and has the white cliffs of Dover in her gob and who's name I've completely forgotten and also got her baps out for the 'boys'.. she was bitter and twisted too..
Jodie Minging Marsh
quote:Originally posted by longcat:I think Katie and Peter's TV life is staged for entertainment value. I think their real life is totally different and we never really know what goes on behind closed doors.quote:Originally posted by love greek sunsets:
Maybe harvey needs stability and that come in the form of routine, I do think a lot is staged for the cameras.
I agree, no one knows what is like when the doors are closed and that is why Harvey is in his routine with his Grandma his primary carer while Katie is off doing work and other stuff,its his normality. ut the impression I got and I quote from her own mouth in last nights programme, "I'm been a mom today"......I'm a mom everyday of the week it is not a optional job for when I feel like it, but that aside I do think she loves her kids immensley just doesn't portray it that well in the programme thats all.
that's the one!! cheersquote:Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
Jodie Minging Marsh
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I haven't ever given Jordan too much thought - but the one thing that's always struck me about her is that she does seem to have a very deep love for that little lad.
Pete (Material Boy) has never really featured in my radar - he just served a purpose in terms of essential packaging of the brand.......
Pete (Material Boy) has never really featured in my radar - he just served a purpose in terms of essential packaging of the brand.......
Most relationships that end in the public arena illicit some point scoring. She has an unsavoury public persona but it doesn't mean she's a bad Mother surely?
It seems to me that some people would be better off steering clear of reading the papers.
who in their right mind would call their kid harvey, when your surname is price?
come on..harv price!!
should called the other kids
20% off
and 50% discount!
come on..harv price!!
should called the other kids
20% off
and 50% discount!
quote:Originally posted by china:
who in their right mind would call their kid harvey, when your surname is price?
come on..harv price!!
should called the other kids
20% off
and 50% discount!
Or BOGOF?
You read the headline in the newspaper we don't know if she actually said it.quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:quote:Originally posted by Oscar:
She clearly adores her children and to allege that little boy is in some way being neglected is ridiculous.
It was brought to attention by her though, in an attempt to score points off Pete..."Pete left Harvey Home Alone"..which to me undermines how odious she is.
quote:Originally posted by longcat:You read the headline in the newspaper we don't know if she actually said it.quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:quote:Originally posted by Oscar:
She clearly adores her children and to allege that little boy is in some way being neglected is ridiculous.
It was brought to attention by her though, in an attempt to score points off Pete..."Pete left Harvey Home Alone"..which to me undermines how odious she is.
Well i read the whole article not just the headline but you are right...however....given that she talks to the press constantly cos any publicity is good publicity it wouldn't surprise me if she did say that or something like that.
Most of the so called exclusives are coming from a friend of a friend of a friend and not Katie and Peter.quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:quote:Originally posted by longcat:You read the headline in the newspaper we don't know if she actually said it.quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:quote:Originally posted by Oscar:
She clearly adores her children and to allege that little boy is in some way being neglected is ridiculous.
It was brought to attention by her though, in an attempt to score points off Pete..."Pete left Harvey Home Alone"..which to me undermines how odious she is.
Well i read the whole article not just the headline but you are right...however....given that she talks to the press constantly cos any publicity is good publicity it wouldn't surprise me if she did say that or something like that.
Isn't that how its done though...a friend of a friend to make it look like its not the person themselves directly slagging off the other one
well I'm sorry any friend of mine offering any info to slag each other off, when there are 3 children involved, would be a friend no longer.
My point is, on the front of a newspaper it says Katie exclusive or Peter exclusive when really its an exclusive about Peter or Katie from a so called friend.quote:Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Isn't that how its done though...a friend of a friend to make it look like its not the person themselves directly slagging off the other one
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by china:
who in their right mind would call their kid harvey, when your surname is price?
come on..harv price!!
should called the other kids
20% off
and 50% discount!
Or BOGOF?
which is what mr andrex has told her to do-or so she says
quote:Originally posted by electric6:
Just playing Devil's advocate, Harvey is at school and it's term time, the other 2 are pre-school.
he has been left with Katies mum and his nanny which isn't a neglect case at all but more responsible than pulling him out of school just for a holiday.
Well don't doubt they didn't want to upset his routine but why did she have to sod off to the Maldives in the first place, surely Harveys routine is to have her and his siblings around him on a daily basis
selfish cawwwwwwwww
selfish cawwwwwwwww
thats sort of the point I'm trying to make ^^^^ - they havent gone AWOL on work commitments - they've BOTH left the country to sulk/sell papers and taken his brother and sister away too
Katie went away, she left Harvey with his father Peter who then flew off to Cyprus.quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
thats sort of the point I'm trying to make ^^^^ - they havent gone AWOL on work commitments - they've BOTH left the country to sulk/sell papers and taken his brother and sister away too
quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
thats sort of the point I'm trying to make ^^^^ - they havent gone AWOL on work commitments - they've BOTH left the country to sulk/sell papers and taken his brother and sister away too
Agreed Both of them didn't have to leave the house, never mind the country.
She has a nerve though, don't she? Swanning off with 2/3 of her kids and ecpecting Pete to make sure harvey was OK... She could have stayed with him.. or taken him with her.. Jordan is dispicable. The poor lad. Wonder how he feels.quote:Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
need I say anymore?? SHE has fecked off with the youngest children (perfect as they are). HE has fecked off to his parents place in Greece (apparently)
Harvey (who???) has been left behind by BOTH of them.
Yes - admit it - u too watched their Stateside prog 2nite where Pete was writing a song all for Harvey....
fact of the matter is - its all STAGED - a complete MONEYSPINNER.
Never mind the fact that Harvey gets left behind...
Yuuuuuup!!!quote:Originally posted by Shizzlex:
Well don't doubt they didn't want to upset his routine but why did she have to sod off to the Maldives in the first place, surely Harveys routine is to have her and his siblings around him on a daily basis
selfish cawwwwwwwww
quote:Originally posted by electric6:
Just playing Devil's advocate, Harvey is at school and it's term time, the other 2 are pre-school.
Apart from tha the he left him with his carer and Katie's mother, hardly abandoning him eh..
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:
I didn't watch the show but it was filmed before the split so not sure what's wrong about Pete writing a song for Harvey.
Not knowing the real reason Harvey's not been taken away with either of them recently I don't think it's fair to speculate as I'm sure they both love him
On Twitter, she says she left Harvey behind because of his meds & she didn't want to upset his routine. Imo, people will always judge, but what do we really know about the situation (sod all tbh)
Its nothing short of a disgrace saw intodays paper that Katie is missing Harvey because he couldn't come to the maldives with her. THE BLOODY MALDIVES!! Marriages break up ever day and people don't go jetting off to sunset paradises. She should be with her son. A terrible mother for how she is performing.
Just reading all the posts, alot of people are missing the point which not why he didn;t go with her but why she left him at all! if he couldn't go why couldn't she stay with him. It wasn't complusary for her to run off!!
Peter isn't there either and she left him with Peter, he was the one who left him with a carer.quote:Originally posted by Irish-Princess:
Just reading all the posts, alot of people are missing the point which not why he didn;t go with her but why she left him at all! if he couldn't go why couldn't she stay with him. It wasn't complusary for her to run off!!
quote:Originally posted by longcat:Peter isn't there either and she left him with Peter, he was the one who left him with a carer.quote:Originally posted by Irish-Princess:
Just reading all the posts, alot of people are missing the point which not why he didn;t go with her but why she left him at all! if he couldn't go why couldn't she stay with him. It wasn't complusary for her to run off!!
and her mother..
Don't think She's coming outta this in a good light at all..
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