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Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
need I say anymore?? SHE has fecked off with the youngest children (perfect as they are). HE has fecked off to his parents place in Greece (apparently)

Harvey (who???) has been left behind by BOTH of them.

Yes - admit it - u too watched their Stateside prog 2nite where Pete was writing a song all for Harvey....

fact of the matter is - its all STAGED - a complete MONEYSPINNER.

Never mind the fact that Harvey gets left behind...

I didn't watch - but I did hear some report the other day that said she'd gone off with her two children and I was a tad puzzled.

My heart goes out to that poor kid ... I think it's nothing short of exploitation the dozens upon dozens of photoshoots he also had to endure ...

I didn't watch the show but it was filmed before the split so not sure what's wrong about Pete writing a song for Harvey.

Not knowing the real reason Harvey's not been taken away with either of them recently I don't think it's fair to speculate as I'm sure they both love him

Just playing Devil's advocate, Harvey is at school and it's term time, the other 2 are pre-school.

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Originally posted by Shar:
My heart goes out to that poor kid ... I think it's nothing short of exploitation the dozens upon dozens of photoshoots he also had to endure ...

Harvey loves having his pic taken, it's the flashing lights. But I agree that there comes a point to draw a line.

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Originally posted by electric6:
Just playing Devil's advocate, Harvey is at school and it's term time, the other 2 are pre-school.

That would make more sense than people assuming neither of them care about him which I don't believe.

OMG IS HE LEFT HOME ALONE??? SOMEONE SHOULD PHONE THE SOCIAL SERVICES!!!!11!!!

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Originally posted by electric6:
Just playing Devil's advocate, Harvey is at school and it's term time, the other 2 are pre-school.

He had to go back to school or he would have lost his place I do believe there is no doubt he is loved by both of them very much

no need to bring social services into this thread - I just think it incredulous that they have both DONE ONE and left him behind - thats all

spesh since they know that once THAT statement went out they would be chased all over the place. Katie took the 'able' children WHEREVER and Peter naffed off home to his parents. School or no school - surely Junior should needs to be kept wherever he is??

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I do believe there is no doubt he is loved by both of them very much

How they conduct their lives is not for me, at all, but I have no doubt that lad is very much loved.

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Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
no need to bring social services into this thread - I just think it incredulous that they have both DONE ONE and left him behind - thats all

So do you not think/beleive it's school related? Katie's mum is possibly looking after him as there's no way he'd be neglected or unloved

Awww poor thing

and yes I DID mean to say Junior - he's no baby now

anyways - lets not let facts get in the way - The Andre's had two children together - Ms Price had one child with absent footballer...

lets guess which child gets left behind in the squabbles....

Harvey wont exactly generate too much publicity in the supposed 'separation/divorce' I suppose?

Well among all the hoo haa and publicity I don't think Harvey's been left at home because they don't love him

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Originally posted by Yellow Rose:

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Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:
no need to bring social services into this thread - I just think it incredulous that they have both DONE ONE and left him behind - thats all

So do you not think/beleive it's school related? Katie's mum is possibly looking after him as there's no way he'd be neglected or unloved

I thought she knew NOTHING of the split - like just about anyone else close to them by the looks of it - but hey ho lets not things get away from the fact that they have BOTH naffed off and left him with his nanny (whoever that might be)

His nanny AND his grandmother, from what I've read...and Junior isn't old enough for school

Harvey is serverley (sp?) autistic and a change in his routine would be very difficult for him to cope with. The best thing for him is to stay at home, with his grandmother and his nanny and go to his school and keep having a normal life.

yeah yeah ok - so IF this split is FOR REAL - why didnt SHE take all of them??? And when HE found out SHE'D gone - why didnt HE take Harvey with him - seeing as how he just a few weeks ago wrote a song about how he'll always be there...... blah blah.....

the whole thing stinks - and Harvey is the scapegoat in all of it

BARMY

I just can't care enough.

I think you're making him out to be one.

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Originally posted by faerykelstar:
Harvey is serverley (sp?) autistic and a change in his routine would be very difficult for him to cope with. The best thing for him is to stay at home, with his grandmother and his nanny and go to his school and keep having a normal life.

so ur saying that his normal routine is to be with his grandmother/nanny? Need I say more?

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Originally posted by cologne1:
BARMY

I just can't care enough.

sorry Cologne but I just think this little boy has been 'abandoned' whilst they supposedly fight out their 'supposed' split

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Originally posted by faerykelstar:
I think you're making him out to be one.

I'm not making him out to be anything other than what he is - which is a disabled child.

EITHER of them could have taken the upper hand and took 'custody' of Harvey - but neither of them could be arsed - I dont care about his 'education' etc etc - IF its true that the split is genuine - NEITHER side will give a shit that he wasnt 'educated' - they will both be very worried that NEITHER of them took charge of him - but HEY-HO - thats telly for u

Oh good grief, I cant post here cos I will lose my temper.
(and thats as a parent of a child with difficulties - not as a fan of either the permatanned two. I just feel the ignorance that is oozing through this thread does not want to be educated)
*gone*

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Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:

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Originally posted by cologne1:
BARMY

I just can't care enough.

sorry Cologne but I just think this little boy has been 'abandoned' whilst they supposedly fight out their 'supposed' split

I don't think either of them thought oh lets abandon Harvey in all this cos neither of us really care about him. Any decision taken would have probably thought to be in his best interests

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Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:

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Originally posted by cologne1:
BARMY

I just can't care enough.

sorry Cologne but I just think this little boy has been 'abandoned' whilst they supposedly fight out their 'supposed' split

I know, but he's been on display since he was born, that's what these people do for a living. It's not how I would want to live and I think you might be right thinking that a mere mortal would have a knock on the door questioning their parenting, but it just goes on.

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Originally posted by MoFo:
Oh good grief, I cant post here cos I will lose my temper.
(and thats as a parent of a child with difficulties - not as a fan of either the permatanned two. I just feel the ignorance that is oozing through this thread does not want to be educated)
*gone*

hey guess what - I am a parent of a severly disabled child too - and no matter what - I'm ALWAYS/STILL around for her - in fact she's in the next room - hubby/boyfriend or not - SHE is still here with ME!!!!

right - I am out of here now because I am injured (yes I have yet again hurt my neck whilst lifting my daughter out of bed or out of her chair or whatever - I'm injured again anyhow). S'pose I will get a knock on the door 2morrow...

I didnt want to offend anyone with this thread - I just think it quite incredulous that both who supposedly love him so much - have pissed off to another country and left him with his 'nannys'

seems to me that she is holed up with the Andre kids and he is holed up at his 'ma's' - and they just happened to leave Harvey behind - school or no school - thats wrong!

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Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:

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Originally posted by MoFo:
Oh good grief, I cant post here cos I will lose my temper.
(and thats as a parent of a child with difficulties - not as a fan of either the permatanned two. I just feel the ignorance that is oozing through this thread does not want to be educated)
*gone*

hey guess what - I am a parent of a severly disabled child too - and no matter what - I'm ALWAYS/STILL around for her - in fact she's in the next room - hubby/boyfriend or not - SHE is still here with ME!!!!

Oh YAY, then you are obviously an expert on every different type of disability and all the situations that make disabled children on every spectrum calm and secure. And you also know exactly what is going on in this situation with this child and this family. OOOOH SUPER YAAY, THANK GAWD FOR YOU!!! Tell us oh wise expert on every special needs child in the world, what shall I give my son for breakfast.

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right - I am out of here now because I am injured (yes I have yet again hurt my neck whilst lifting my daughter out of bed or out of her chair or whatever - I'm injured again anyhow). S'pose I will get a knock on the door 2morrow...

I hope you don't think that anyone in this thread is in any way disabilist...I can assure you that couldn't be further from the truth.

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Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:

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Originally posted by MoFo:
Oh good grief, I cant post here cos I will lose my temper.
(and thats as a parent of a child with difficulties - not as a fan of either the permatanned two. I just feel the ignorance that is oozing through this thread does not want to be educated)
*gone*

hey guess what - I am a parent of a severly disabled child too - and no matter what - I'm ALWAYS/STILL around for her - in fact she's in the next room - hubby/boyfriend or not - SHE is still here with ME!!!!

When I worked with children, who I came to love every one, were so severely physically and/or mentally challenged that their life expectancy was very short, the longest expectancy was teenage years. I also got to know the parents and had absolute respect for them and often felt humbled by them. Their love is as intense, of course, as parents of healthy children, maybe more so at the knowledge that their children have a limited life span. Maybe it's why I find it hard to think that Harvey has been so called "abandoned" through lack of love or concern.

eerrrrrr maybe .. considering the circumstances.. Harvey is continuing on in his normal routine in order to cause him least upset and disruption..

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Originally posted by MoFo:

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Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:

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Originally posted by MoFo:
Oh good grief, I cant post here cos I will lose my temper.
(and thats as a parent of a child with difficulties - not as a fan of either the permatanned two. I just feel the ignorance that is oozing through this thread does not want to be educated)
*gone*

hey guess what - I am a parent of a severly disabled child too - and no matter what - I'm ALWAYS/STILL around for her - in fact she's in the next room - hubby/boyfriend or not - SHE is still here with ME!!!!

Oh YAY, then you are obviously an expert on every different type of disability and all the situations that make disabled children on every spectrum calm and secure. And you also know exactly what is going on in this situation with this child and this family. OOOOH SUPER YAAY, THANK GAWD FOR YOU!!! Tell us oh wise expert on every special needs child in the world, what shall I give my son for breakfast.

You're obviously not dead perfect because you were just a wee bit OTT there in your answer to BARMY's post.

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by MoFo:

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Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:

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Originally posted by MoFo:
Oh good grief, I cant post here cos I will lose my temper.
(and thats as a parent of a child with difficulties - not as a fan of either the permatanned two. I just feel the ignorance that is oozing through this thread does not want to be educated)
*gone*

hey guess what - I am a parent of a severly disabled child too - and no matter what - I'm ALWAYS/STILL around for her - in fact she's in the next room - hubby/boyfriend or not - SHE is still here with ME!!!!

Oh YAY, then you are obviously an expert on every different type of disability and all the situations that make disabled children on every spectrum calm and secure. And you also know exactly what is going on in this situation with this child and this family. OOOOH SUPER YAAY, THANK GAWD FOR YOU!!! Tell us oh wise expert on every special needs child in the world, what shall I give my son for breakfast.

You're obviously not dead perfect because you were just a wee bit OTT there in your answer to BARMY's post.

Oooooh nooooo!?!?1 Did I jump to conclusions with out any facts to back them up?? Shame on me.

Please excuse any irony dripping from this post onto anything that needs dry-cleaning. Send the bill to someone else.

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Originally posted by MoFo:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by MoFo:

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Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:

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Originally posted by MoFo:
Oh good grief, I cant post here cos I will lose my temper.
(and thats as a parent of a child with difficulties - not as a fan of either the permatanned two. I just feel the ignorance that is oozing through this thread does not want to be educated)
*gone*

hey guess what - I am a parent of a severly disabled child too - and no matter what - I'm ALWAYS/STILL around for her - in fact she's in the next room - hubby/boyfriend or not - SHE is still here with ME!!!!

Oh YAY, then you are obviously an expert on every different type of disability and all the situations that make disabled children on every spectrum calm and secure. And you also know exactly what is going on in this situation with this child and this family. OOOOH SUPER YAAY, THANK GAWD FOR YOU!!! Tell us oh wise expert on every special needs child in the world, what shall I give my son for breakfast.

You're obviously not dead perfect because you were just a wee bit OTT there in your answer to BARMY's post.

Oooooh nooooo!?!?1 Did I jump to conclusions with out any facts to back them up?? Shame on me.

Please excuse any irony dripping from this post onto anything that needs dry-cleaning. Send the bill to someone else.

Ok weird person.

Well I'm disabled, my daughter has the same condition (it limits her-only slightly for now) but it is not yet disabling per se... and I have left her with family for weekends, she's been on holiday with my folks etc...I don't see the fact that she has wonky genes should mean I have to "prove" my love by being with her 24/7...



Mebbes I'm just evil

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Originally posted by BARMY BRUMMIE:

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Originally posted by faerykelstar:
Harvey is serverley (sp?) autistic and a change in his routine would be very difficult for him to cope with. The best thing for him is to stay at home, with his grandmother and his nanny and go to his school and keep having a normal life.

so ur saying that his normal routine is to be with his grandmother/nanny? Need I say more?

No, I'm saying that his normal routine is to wake up in his own bed, eat breakfast in his own house, go to school with his normal teachers and friends, come home to his own house and sleep in his own bed. As someone who's been through a parental breakdown, I wish that my normal life could've continued, and I was a lot more able to cope with it than he is.

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Originally posted by electric6:
Well I'm disabled, my daughter has the same condition (it limits her-only slightly for now) but it is not yet disabling per se... and I have left her with family for weekends, she's been on holiday with my folks etc...I don't see the fact that she has wonky genes should mean I have to "prove" my love by being with her 24/7...



Mebbes I'm just evil

I think BARMY is saying that they've both taken off in the easy way and the problem, eg. Harvey has been left behind with the carers. I agree really because everything they do is photogenic and he, unfortunately, is not, so when the chips are down, he gets left behind.