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I was watching her today on last night's HL show, when she had the disagreement with JJ that caused him to want to walk out.  She is very manipulative in how she is with him.  She knows exactly what button to press and how to get to him, and actually enjoys the power she has over him.  She seemed to actually be enjoying it when JJ was going to walk and turned the situation to make herself seem the victim.  She has an unpleasant side to her.
Liverpoollass
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I was watching her today on last night's HL show, when she had the disagreement with JJ that caused him to want to walk out. She is very manipulative in how she is with him. She knows exactly what button to press and how to get to him, and actually enjoys the power she has over him. She seemed to actually be enjoying it when JJ was going to walk and turned the situation to make herself seem the victim. She has an unpleasant side to her.
 She is unpleasant. Full stop.
cologne 1
True Blizzie,I'm still cynical about JJ1.He stated he'd do anything to win this.So all his motives are a bit suspect to me.Ah well looks like he will win it anyway.Hope the allstars at the end injects a bit of Ooomph back into this years show,somehow I doubt it.BB is limping to the end of it's time ,like a tired old dog....oh get me with the wassname metaphor!
kattymieoww
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Blizzie online 13,560 Forum Posts Today at 6:53 PM Last Edited: I'd say the person crying and running into the camera runs, or the diary room, every time the other one doesn't agree with them, is the manipulative one.
Josie is way more manipulative then JJ.  She holds the upper hand, imo, and has the power to make JJ laugh or cry.  That's my take on it anyway.
Liverpoollass
It is glaringly obvious that she is.  She manipulates him, by going into a strop and ignoring him over the slightest thing thus making him follow her around the place apologising and begging for her forgiveness.  Ok, he doesn't have to do that, but he cares about her and doesn't like to think he has upset her.  She plays on this to get her own way.
Liverpoollass
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It is glaringly obvious that she is. She manipulates him, by going into a strop and ignoring him over the slightest thing thus making him follow her around the place apologising and begging for her forgiveness. Ok, he doesn't have to do that, but he cares about her and doesn't like to think he has upset her. She plays on this to get her own way.
Yes. If this was a bloke doing it to one of the girls we'd never hear the end of it from certain quarters.
cologne 1
I'd say it was the other way around.

He gets upset over the slightest thing and cries and runs off, until she has to comfort him back to his normal self. She's allowed to get annoyed with him, surely? Especially when he's comparing her to Shabby! And she wasn't even stroppy, when she offered to change beds with JJ. She seemed quite calm, as she went off to check her whites weren't boiled dry!

They both care about each other, that's obvious, but he is more prone to tears and she laughs at the ridiculousness of it all (part embarassment at the situation and part cheering him up before he makes even more of a show of their strange relationship).
This may be why she appears to some people to be the manipulative one, as many people see this as cold and uncaring. I think she cares very much, but puts on a front to protect herself.
Blizz'ard
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Blizzie online 13,562 Forum Posts Today at 8:15 PM Last Edited: I'd say it was the other way around. He gets upset over the slightest thing and cries and runs off, until she has to comfort him back to his normal self. She's allowed to get annoyed with him, surely? Especially when he's comparing her to Shabby! And she wasn't even stroppy, when she offered to change beds with JJ. She seemed quite calm, as she went off to check her whites weren't boiled dry! They both care about each other, that's obvious, but he is more prone to tears and she laughs at the ridiculousness of it all (part embarassment at the situation and part cheering him up before he makes even more of a show of their strange relationship). This may be why she appears to some people to be the manipulative one, as many people see this as cold and uncaring. I think she cares very much, but puts on a front to protect herself.
I agree with some of what you say.  I am sure she does care and some of it is a front to protect herself.  JJ also puts up a front to protect himself - they are both insecure.  Of course she is allowed to get annoyed with him, but she does it all the time and most of the time to get him to grovel to her so that it then makes her feel wanted and loved.  JJ's problem is that he is far too worried about upsetting her and he must feel as though he is walking on eggshells because the slightest thing and she can then throw a strop and stop talking to him.  They are  both playing a pretty childish game and they need to grow up.
Liverpoollass
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I think Josie is the best gameplayer in the house and I cannot stand her at all
She is, i hate the way she didnt like what JJ said to her the other day, so she played on her period AGAIN. She can be very nasty, but does it with a smile,and sticks that thumb in her gob. She drives me nuts, its all about her, always has been
FM
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Skylark24 (Bens Buddy #48) online 3,575 Forum Posts Today at 8:27 PM Last Edited: Reference:Kaytee I think Josie is the best gameplayer in the house and I cannot stand her at all She is, i hate the way she didnt like what JJ said to her the other day, so she played on her period AGAIN. She can be very nasty, but does it with a smile,and sticks that thumb in her gob. She drives me nuts, its all about her, always has been
Liverpoollass
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Of course she is allowed to get annoyed with him, but she does it all the time and most of the time to get him to grovel to her so that it then makes her feel wanted and loved.
Really, I haven't seen that?

I've seen them argue about the crab eye comment, his constant bitching about people she likes and that's about it. The incident shown last night she didn't even sound that annoyed and she's happy to walk away from it and calm down, whereas he wants to analyse things to the Nth degree.

He is the one that wants reassurance and cuddles.
Blizz'ard
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Blizzie online 13,564 Forum Posts Today at 8:35 PM Last Edited: Reference: LL Of course she is allowed to get annoyed with him, but she does it all the time and most of the time to get him to grovel to her so that it then makes her feel wanted and loved. Really, I haven't seen that? I've seen them argue about the crab eye comment, his constant bitching about people she likes and that's about it. The incident shown last night she didn't even sound that annoyed and she's happy to walk away from it and calm down, whereas he wants to analyse things to the Nth degree. He is the one that wants reassurance and cuddles.
Just different people's view on the same situation blizzie.  Different strokes and all that
Liverpoollass
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She is, i hate the way she didnt like what JJ said to her the other day, so she played on her period AGAIN. She can be very nasty, but does it with a smile,and sticks that thumb in her gob. She drives me nuts, its all about her, always has been
Or, you could say that blaming it on her period was her way of saying "Don't worry about it. I'm just a bit hormonal", instead of "DON'T YOU DARE EFFIN COMPARE OUR SITUATION TO SCABBY AND QUEEFER'S AND THEN GET UPSET THAT I OFFERED TO SWAP BEDS!!!", which is what I might have said, in the same situation!
Blizz'ard
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Or, you could say that blaming it on her period was her way of saying "Don't worry about it. I'm just a bit hormonal", instead of "DON'T YOU DARE EFFIN COMPARE OUR SITUATION TO SCABBY AND QUEEFER'S AND THEN GET UPSET THAT I OFFERED TO SWAP BEDS!!!", which is what I might have said, in the same situation!
Only he talked about swapping beds first and we know that now because BB heard the chat under the duvet, so it all falls flat. She's a nasty manipulative mare because of her insecurities and we all know why she feels that way, but we are not allowed to say it because the PC brigade will jump on every perceived slight.
cologne 1
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She's a nasty manipulative mare because of her insecurities and we all know why she feels that way, but we are not allowed to say it because the PC brigade will jump on every perceived slight.
I have no idea what you're talking about. I've obviously missed something ...........give us a clue. 

Seriously I don't know what you mean.
Soozy Woo

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