Who depends on who to carry out their dirty deeds?
Is one the mastermind with power and influence?
Would the other sink without trace if left in the house alone?
Is one of them the catalyst?
Does one influence the other?
Thoughts?
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Brisket, I can honestly say I can't give a conclusive answer, however I do think Gollum is the cleverer/sneakier of the two. Madam Shabby has probably watched the programme for years and therefore is more BB street smart, but if you look at the nom result tonight, Shabby is up for eviction!!! So I would therefore say that Govan is the mastermind
Listening to the little squirt for the past hour or so, even I never clicked on how devious and manipulative Govan is. I feel a sheer dislike for a person I don't even know, I would not entertain someone like that with 100yards of me to be honest.I do think he's the stirrer and Shabby will probably be his mouth piece.
Shabby was the mouth until Govan was comfortable within the group, now he's definitely coming across as the more odious of the two in my opinion.
Shabby was the mouth until Govan was comfortable within the group, now he's definitely coming across as the more odious of the two in my opinion.
Wait for it....(drum roll), I'm going to use an overused BB word....he is VILE Dame Ann - he is a little squirt
Dame Ann - he is a little squirtReference:
Wait for it....(drum roll), I'm going to use an overused BB word....he is VILE
and a bulleh
"Jellus" as well
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"Jellus" as well
and at the moment a kiss ass too
A VILE BULLEH (only kidding) who sounds like Vicky Pollard and has the potential to be as bad, if not worse than Luke...noooooooooooo!
(only kidding) who sounds like Vicky Pollard and has the potential to be as bad, if not worse than Luke...noooooooooooo!
Oh my spider, the resemblance is uncanny!!! 
Spot on Spider
Jesus, Spider....
Do you think he would make an annoying door-to-door salesman, with all that rattle he's got?
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Jesus, Spider....
No, no, no it's Gollum Fairfax, how long you been gone
How can he speak as if he thinks he is an expert in humanity and human behaviour.
He is only 19!
He is only 19!
Govan has said
"When I was a stupid kid."
What are you now then?
"When I was a stupid kid."
What are you now then?
Gobby
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Gobby
I actually think they're a match made in heaven (or hell) I couldn't choose one or the other .........after all these years of Big Bro! Surely they know that mega bitching in the wee small hours has been the downfall of far better HM's than them.
I'm puzzled as to why BB punished Shabby for influencing noms and yet he, who clearly for several days has been influencing some HM's, has been let off. I don't get it
hehe i just put a thread asking the same thing
i don't know who starts it, i thought it was Shabby but i'm not so sure now.
Govan is a little creep.
i don't know who starts it, i thought it was Shabby but i'm not so sure now.
Govan is a little creep.
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hehe i just put a thread asking the same thing i don't know who starts it, i thought it was Shabby but i'm not so sure now. Govan is a little creep.
Ooops, sorry Strike didn't see your thread 
I've listened to him in the early hours with his girls around him and he's blatantly been influencing them, doesn't fair to me even though I'm no fan of Shabby's eitherReference:
I'm puzzled as to why BB punished Shabby for influencing noms and yet he, who clearly for several days has been influencing some HM's, has been let off. I don't get it
I think it's because in her conversation she specifically mentioned nominations three or four times. Ironically as she said - it really wasn't about who she was going to nominate but .................if you use the word nominate in conversation .......you're talking about nominations aren't you? Silly mare - can't stand her TBH.