what all of them

I'm up to the back teeth of hearing Haigh foing on about an unelected PM, the tories did it more than once and now we have a Deputy PM that trailed very badly  in third place in the election in the position he might at some point have to run the country. Much as I prefer Clegg to Cameron all that could change, but to bang on about something that's happened in their government is a tad hypocritical IMO. 




and for Suzy's son and Suzy 

Another labour trick of taking a quote out of context and spinning it round!!!


It's all to do with the lack of ambition in kids today. When I was at school, we wanted 'normal' jobs and worked hard to get towards them....there is no drive in the schools at the moment...even sports days have been dumbed down so as not to upset the losers....how are our kids supposed to strive to try harder when sucesses are ignored? The nanny-state that the labour govt gave us has squashed the aspiration and drive in lots of people....then you have the cases where the entire family is on benefit and the children see this as a lifestyle choice. I actually know a family where everyone is on benefit...the grandparents...their two kids and their partners and the three kids old enough to work...they actually had a party to celebrate when one of them won an appeal to stay on benefits because they had gout...he celebrated by building his parents a deck and drinking all day. They spend their afternoons drinking wine on their nice new deck! Now the youngest kids are saying that they are going to live on benefit and not even bother looking for a job. This is not the only family I know who live like this andI find it very sad....

Obviously not....in the same way that not all tory voters are privately educated, prawn sarnie munchers!!!

Mrs B - I quoted you directly and took nothing out of context. Sorry, but you can't blame all the ills of society on Labour. Aren't parents reponsible for their own kids any more?

Britain isn't 'broken', as Cameron would like us all to believe. It needs a bit of tweaking here and there, but there are millions of ambitious, hard-working young people out there. There have always been layabouts, and there always will be. But the fact you're so shocked by this family you know of, suggests they are still the exception, rather than the rule.

Shame - I know what prawns eat...   

Au contraire! Most of your points seem to be recycled Daily Mail headlines. We haven't had a nanny state since before Thatcher. The whole issue of Labour dis-satisfaction with Blair and Brown is that they didn't take back state power prefering instead to leave it in the hands of abstract forces such as the market economy.

Just as well i'm allergic to them then!!!

Apart from that Mrs Joe regularly eats sea-filth such as prawns. You won't find many people more Marxist-Leninist than her.

Never read that paper in my life....the only papers I ever buy are our local ones....none of the nationals appeal to me!

Yeuchhh - filthy shit-scavengers that swarm around sewage outlet pipes. I wouldn't eat one if you paid me.

They may be about to sign you up!

Of course they are....well, the majority are anyway....I realise it is a society issue too and it also needs addressing on that level.


And on that note...I really must go and do my bliddy ironing...unless anyone has an ironing fairy they could let me borrow?? I hate ironing for boys...they always look crumpled within 60 seconds of dressing  how do they do it??

Leave 'em creased, MrsB!  

Any job offer would be greatly recieved right now.....it would make my huge pile of rejection letters seem not so bad.....

A very good and cunning plan Demantoid...sadly, my 12yr old has discovered that the girlies like a slightly more 'groomed' look...he even combs his hair now *faint*

Sorry... the uber painkillers knocked me out cold for a couple of hours.   I have a cyst near my spine at the base of my neck.  I am waiting for the appointment with the surgeon to have it removed.  In the meantime its pressing on a nerve or something & I have these pains shooting up & down my right arm.

I have the choice of pain... or if I take the strong painkillers... unconsciousness!

I have half a pile of ironing left if exercise will help it  I had to stop ironing to watch the Dave/Nick news conference....

Would vodka help with the pain??

Aww Ditty hope it gets sorted soon.

Ditty, that sounds awful.  I hope you don't have to wait too much longer to get it removed.

Me too!   I really don't know how people who live with pain every day do it!   I'm lucky... hubby has been a bit of a star... for once he seems to understand.

As for the wait... well unless the new government change anything immediately I assume the 18 week wait target is still in place... 18 weeks from GP referral to treatment...  if so, then then I should be sorted by August at the latest.

MrsB....  I can't drink alcohol with the painkillers... I wouldn't dare...   I am maxing the tablets in a way I have never done before... my poor poor liver!

you are as bad as my GP.... she mentioned physio!   

Call me old fashioned... but I like my medical care in strict order of diagnosis then treatment then rehab...

*shoves ironing in bags and drives to Dittys at break neck speed...dumps ironing on Dittys doorstep and goes for drink with new best friend....Dittys GP*

  You make me laugh Mrs!

 Me too.

Me three..... and Clegg is certainly easy on the eye

I agree, I was determined to 'get out there' and stand on my own two feet.  I left secretarial college on the Friday and started work on the Monday.  I know we have a lot to do to re-build the jobs for people to do but its that old-fashioned 'work ethic' where you would have been ashamed not to pay your way that I would like to see return.  My eldest grandson who is 18 hasn't even got the sniff of a job and it would be the making of him if he could start work as you once could with a group of men who might send you off for a 'bubble for the spirit-level' or a 'long weight' but where you could get your first pay packet and feel like one of the boys.  My late husband started work at 15 as a messenger boy in the City and his mum went to the interview with him!

oh noes!

don't you eeevil tories be molesting my cleggy boy!!

 Age before beauty Ditty.... so I win

I like Cleggy too, however Sam Cam is easy on the eye as is his missus Miriam.

well... if you blues are gonna be using & abusing him I am starting to wish we had kept Charles Kennedy & sent him in!  

Me four, and I do like Nick Clegg as well.

OK.... so are we gonna start fighting for winks again Yogi!

On a serious note, I find it extraordinary and a bit short sighted  that people actually want them to fail......

*assures self that Vince will look after Cleggy*

its a serious case of cutting off nose to spite face!

Emmm, let me think........................ yes!

Right! Game on then!