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Originally posted by squiggle:
My feeling is that enough is enough now. We have done our fair share, some might say more than. It is a UN exercise. Time for us to let others shoulder the burden now and bring our people home.


Well! As I said before I'm with David Cameron on this one. If these backward rednecks get hold of the Pakistan nuclear deterrent, who knows what might happen? They aren't the full shilling you know.
As for somehow liberating the Afghanis and bringing them democracy, women's rights and such, it's all my eye.
Garage Joe
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by squiggle:
My feeling is that enough is enough now. We have done our fair share, some might say more than. It is a UN exercise. Time for us to let others shoulder the burden now and bring our people home.


Well! As I said before I'm with David Cameron on this one. If these backward rednecks get hold of the Pakistan nuclear deterrent, who knows what might happen? They aren't the full shilling you know.
As for somehow liberating the Afghanis and bringing them democracy, women's rights and such, it's all my eye.


I don't know whether other people have noticed that just this week a law was passed in Afghanistan making it legal for a man to rape and beat his wife if she refuses to have sex with him!
squiggle
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Originally posted by squiggle:
I don't know whether other people have noticed that just this week a law was passed in Afghanistan making it legal for a man to rape and beat his wife if she refuses to have sex with him!

Wasn't that just the proposed law? I think it ended up being that Shia Afghan men can deny money amd food to their Shia wives if they refuse to 'supply the goods' themselves.

I suppose it went through because Khazi couldn't risk losing the 10% of the votes held by Shias in his country. Lordy, that place is a mess.
FM
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Wasn't it a little better for a while when the communists were in power? Better meaning that women were educated and held positions of responsibility like university lecturers and stuff?


Yes, it was, but women needs votes and a share of the power, if they are to educate the mens properly! Big Grin
Blizz'ard
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Wasn't it a little better for a while when the communists were in power? Better meaning that women were educated and held positions of responsibility like university lecturers and stuff?


Yes, it was, but women needs votes and a share of the power, if they are to educate the mens properly! Big Grin


I just read this straight after reading Mummy Maz's thread. It made me chuckle.
Luxor
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
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Originally posted by squiggle:
I don't know whether other people have noticed that just this week a law was passed in Afghanistan making it legal for a man to rape and beat his wife if she refuses to have sex with him!

Wasn't that just the proposed law? I think it ended up being that Shia Afghan men can deny money amd food to their Shia wives if they refuse to 'supply the goods' themselves.

I suppose it went through because Khazi couldn't risk losing the 10% of the votes held by Shias in his country. Lordy, that place is a mess.


All I know Dan is that the law was passed this week. Which I thought was pretty ironic when we are supposed to be fighting for their freedom over there.
squiggle
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
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Originally posted by squiggle:
All I know Dan is that the law was passed this week. Which I thought was pretty ironic when we are supposed to be fighting for their freedom over there.

Or fighting for our own security, depending on whose word we accept. Or, I suppose, both.


I don't think either of us are naive enough to think that if we, by some miracle, make a difference in Afghanistan it will affect our security one jot.
squiggle
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Originally posted by squiggle:
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Originally posted by Daniel J*:
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Originally posted by squiggle:
All I know Dan is that the law was passed this week. Which I thought was pretty ironic when we are supposed to be fighting for their freedom over there.

Or fighting for our own security, depending on whose word we accept. Or, I suppose, both.


I don't think either of us are naive enough to think that if we, by some miracle, make a difference in Afghanistan it will affect our security one jot.

I don't think for a moment the UK is primarily fighting for the freedom of the Afghan population as a good in itself. Afghanistan was hit by a coalition of forces at the beginning because of the terrorist training camps.
FM

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