quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Gordon Brown needs to call a general Election now...but he doesn't have the balls to do it.
Ed Balls?
Ed Balls?
They were interviewing people today asking how they voted and some said they wouldn't vote labour. Asked why they said it was because of MP's expenses? Um...All parties are responsible for that.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Gordon Brown needs to call a general Election now...but he doesn't have the balls to do it.
Ed Balls?
Sadly he's got that little twit.
Gordon Brown was never actualy elected to be PM so has no right to that job until he wins an election.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Gordon Brown was never actualy elected to be PM so has no right to that job until he wins an election.
May I refer you to my previous comment....
Thank Bog you lot weren't about during WWII when Churchill was kicking Hitler's bottom. He wasn't elected either, and that's just one example.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Gordon Brown was never actualy elected to be PM so has no right to that job until he wins an election.
'Course he has. Arguably, he has no mandate from the people though.
We don't elect prime ministers and there doesn't need to be a leadership election within the party.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Gordon Brown was never actualy elected to be PM so has no right to that job until he wins an election.
You don't vote for the person, you vote for the party.
So that's why we had no say in Brown; the baton was passed on automatically.
These Labour MP's are like a bunch of lemmings - all following each other over the cliff.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Gordon Brown was never actualy elected to be PM so has no right to that job until he wins an election.
May I refer you to my previous comment....
Thank Bog you lot weren't about during WWII when Churchill was kicking Hitler's bottom. He wasn't elected either, and that's just one example.
Brown is nowhere near the man Churchill was.
Brown might have been elected by the people for his seat in the house BUT they never elected him to be PM, he was given that role by Blair.
Brown could have and nearly did call an election before until he saw the polls and decided against it...the man is a coward.
Brown could have and nearly did call an election before until he saw the polls and decided against it...the man is a coward.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Blahahahahahaha
quote:Originally posted by EDWARDIAN LIL:
I think he is nice
Why are those trouble makers stinging him like wasps
Can you imagine wot it is like to get up at say 6.00am and have to put on a clean shirt and tie and go out and be PRIME MINISTER
No chants of 'OH I CAN'T BE ASPIDISTAED- I WILL CALL IN A SICKY'
No matter wot your politics - he's only human after all
He's human, all right, but he doesn't understand how British politics works and he doesn't understand the British people.
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Cadoxton:
Gordon Brown is a dogmatic fool.
he determinedly FAILED to give us a manifesto promise of a referendum on Europe and he is STILL refusing to go to the country in a General Election, because he "loves" being PM.
We won't have a GE until we absolutely have to (by next June) because of his stupiodly stubborn attitude.
He will lose, of course whenever the GE is and he knows it, a big reason why he's clinging on.
You see this is the whole point.
People keep bringing up the red herring of Europe.
Europe doesn't matter.
If people were bothered then I wouldn't have had to wake up the polling officers yesterday so I could vote.
The simple fact is that he continued with the Thatcherite experiment and it exploded in his face just like Karlo said it would.
As the noted philosopher/womanising hero Bill Clinton said, "It's the economy stupid!"
Gordon a Thatcherite? Now I've heard everything.
quote:Originally posted by EDWARDIAN LIL:
I think he is nice
Why are those trouble makers stinging him like wasps
Can you imagine wot it is like to get up at say 6.00am and have to put on a clean shirt and tie and go out and be PRIME MINISTER
No chants of 'OH I CAN'T BE ASPIDISTAED
No matter wot your politics - he's only human after all
really agree - it is like media bullying
sorry - can't stand David Cameron
sorry -gordon brown s no thatcherite but the total antithesis
quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
Didn't they end by tossing him in the river
Shot him. Stabbed him with an ice pick. Poisoned him. Dumped him in the river. He just would not die.
quote:Originally posted by The Secretary:
Have you seen Ms Blears' brooch?
Is it a Blue Peter badge?
quote:Originally posted by Tullyanna:
I like Gordon Brown. It would be shameful if there was now a General Election - which I believe will be called for very soon - and the Tories got in by default. Looking at the lists of 'flippers' and pee-takers using taxpayers' money to float their duck-boats/houses/moats, it has to be said that the worst offenders are the Conservaties. Sometimes, it is better the devil you know. The country needs to be aware that you can change one government for another but there is no guarantee that the new one will be any better. It could be worse.
I want Gordon Brown to remain as Prime Minister and I hope he survives this present crisis. The son of the manse has integrity, prudence and he is a nice kind family man who has been unlucky to have been Prime Minister when the whole world, and not just Britain, is in financial meltdown. He is not to blame.
He caused the present crisis. He squandered the extremely healthy economy the Conservatives left behind them when Labour got in. Had he not done so, GB would have been in an excellent position to weather this crisis rather better.
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
HAHA I love the way in which the future of this country and British politics in general has been reduced to the X factor,
"Gordon Brown...get im out he is ugleh and fat and has a funneh mouth, and that David wotsis face is like lush init? so lets us all vote for thems lots cause they is like all smarterer than the brown and his lot of mingers"
well thats how it seems here anyway, all these "Tory supporters" who want Labour gone and the eaton maffia instaled in their place and everyfink will allraight then in it?
ask them what would be different.....and all ya get is look at the mess that Brown has got us in,....so...WHAT WOULD THE TORIES DO ???
Hopefully, they will undo the mess that Britain is today, as created by Labour.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
I wish someone could come up with a list of what is or isnt "necessary",
The National Identity Register, the DNA Database for non-criminals, the NHS Records database, the Child Register. All unnecessary, all very very expensive, and all either sinister or undesirable in a free society.
Lots of quangos. Targets for almost everything. Swathes of administrators and other Guardian-jobs. Street furniture all over the place. Probably SAT tests in schools. Health and Safety jobsworths. The vast amount of legislation NuLabour have introduced in their intrusive, illiberal, regulatory time. Except regulation in the financial sector which Brown has studiously avoided, presumably in anticipation of his future directorships and lecture tours.
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Absolutely spot on, Daniel. Brown has created so many jobs just to ensure a groundswell of Labour voters. (But where were they, yesterday?)
But what he has created is a tier of management, to manage the managers, and be managed by other managers. Swathes of non-jobs, financed by the long-suffering British taxpayer.
quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
UPDATE : Caroline Flint has just said that Gordon Brown treated her as female window dressing and accused him of running a two-tier government of cronies and the rest of the cabinet. Ouch.
Having met Ms Flint when she was fannying about in the Home Office and dallying with Louise Casey with the 'Respect' initiative.. I've got to say if Gordo did see her as window dressing then he pretty much got her bang on.
quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
Miliband deserves to be locked away in the dungeons of government.
I though this boy had his sights set on becoming leader?! He has absolutely no backbone â he had a golden opportunity to finish Brown off, but he bottled itâĶ again.
Milipede has now proved that without a doubt he is an invertebrate.
They've all been got at by Brown and spent yesterday spouting exactly the same words as each other during their assorted interviews. So-and-so has made "the wrong judgement".
quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
forgive me but wasnt it Maggie Thatcher who introduced the second home allowance
Nothing wrong with the second home allowance, in principle. Many MPs have constituencies hundreds of miles from Westminster, where they have to spend much of their time.
But they're taking the pee when they live only a half-hour commuter journey away, or where they charge dog food, cosmetics, or have their son's girlfriend's cousin living in the place.
quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
Donât worry, Flintâs gone but instead Gordon has confirmed in the same press conference that weâve been lumped with Glenys Kinnock being put into the House of Lords, and into the government. How many unelected people into government does that make that today, along with Alan Sugar?
There goes Browngabeâs claim to restore the democratic deficit â forcing people onto us that have NEVER faced any election.Half of the chuffing cabinet will be from the Lords at this rate. I thought Labour wanted to scrap the HoL.
This is Democratic Renewal, people.
Yup, this is True Democracy (not) when the PM has to create new members to Labour's hated House of Lords in order to put people in the cabinet. He could fill the whole cabinet this way, with unelected people. People who do not represent YOU, but him and his totalitarian ego.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
How can Gordon possibly hang on after all this? He's a laughing-stock. Has he no shame or dignity?!
No, just a strong will and the power to bend people to it.
quote:Originally posted by paace:quote:Originally posted by EDWARDIAN LIL:
it was the liberals that invented free milk in schools to conquer ricketts
it twas the liberals that invented the nhs
twas the liberals that invented social security
wot happened
Where do you get this from Lil? First I've heard of it!
Look up William Beveridge on Wiki.
quote:Originally posted by jennywren:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
I wish someone could come up with a list of what is or isnt "necessary",
The National Identity Register, the DNA Database for non-criminals, the NHS Records database, the Child Register. All unnecessary, all very very expensive, and all either sinister or undesirable in a free society.
Lots of quangos. Targets for almost everything. Swathes of administrators and other Guardian-jobs. Street furniture all over the place. Probably SAT tests in schools. Health and Safety jobsworths. The vast amount of legislation NuLabour have introduced in their intrusive, illiberal, regulatory time. Except regulation in the financial sector which Brown has studiously avoided, presumably in anticipation of his future directorships and lecture tours.
[...]
Absolutely spot on, Daniel. Brown has created so many jobs just to ensure a groundswell of Labour voters. (But where were they, yesterday?)
But what he has created is a tier of management, to manage the managers, and be managed by other managers. Swathes of non-jobs, financed by the long-suffering British taxpayer.
Well said jenny. People go on about cutting public services but what they don't realise is that there is so much money being wasted on, as you say, tiers of management, that billions could be saved just by streamlining admin jobs.
Hasn't he gone yet? 
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Hasn't he gone yet?
Nah I think he's changed the locks!!
Morning LL, I'm not liking any of 'em so far! Hope I get to like 'em better or that's my BB up the spout this year
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Gordon Brown was never actualy elected to be PM so has no right to that job until he wins an election.
May I refer you to my previous comment....
Thank Bog you lot weren't about during WWII when Churchill was kicking Hitler's bottom. He wasn't elected either, and that's just one example.
Brown is nowhere near the man Churchill was.
No he isn't but that wasn't your point.
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Hasn't he gone yet?
Nah I think he's changed the locks!!
Morning LL, I'm not liking any of 'em so far! Hope I get to like 'em better or that's my BB up the spout this year
Morning
Damn, I was hoping for some good news when I got up this morning
Nor me, none that I particularly like. I suppose I would have to say Freddie, but that could all change
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Hasn't he gone yet?
Nah I think he's changed the locks!!
He'll be gone by end of next week 
From my current favourite blog:
Iâve seen this âtragedy of Shakespearian proportionsâ compared to âMacbethâ in various papers â but Macbethâs fatal flaw was ambition, which I donât think it is with Brown.
Itâs more a lethal combination of self-righteousness and self-delusion. Macbeth was in it for himself. I think Brown genuinely thinks heâs in it for us.
Iâve seen this âtragedy of Shakespearian proportionsâ compared to âMacbethâ in various papers â but Macbethâs fatal flaw was ambition, which I donât think it is with Brown.
Itâs more a lethal combination of self-righteousness and self-delusion. Macbeth was in it for himself. I think Brown genuinely thinks heâs in it for us.
quote:Originally posted by wandawitch:
He'll be gone by end of next week
Not before he has called an Election, I hope
I don't want that Johnston fellow in - give me an election and give it to me now
quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddyostrich:
From my current favourite blog:
Iâve seen this âtragedy of Shakespearian proportionsâ compared to âMacbethâ in various papers â but Macbethâs fatal flaw was ambition, which I donât think it is with Brown.
Itâs more a lethal combination of self-righteousness and self-delusion. Macbeth was in it for himself. I think Brown genuinely thinks heâs in it for us.
I'm a tad superstitious. Please can you use the term "The Scottish Play!" in any future postings? Sankyou please.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:quote:Originally posted by wandawitch:
He'll be gone by end of next week
Not before he has called an Election, I hope
I don't want that Johnston fellow in - give me an election and give it to me now
quote:Originally posted by Garage Joe:
I'm a tad superstitious. Please can you use the term "The Scottish Play!" in any future postings? Sankyou please.
I'm not.
Never saw you as an effete luvvie, Joe