Thank you squiggle ; I appreciate that very much, and I think dance settee's attack on me IS uncalled for and rude and unneccesary, but I shall ignore their posts now. They have an agenda and are trying to stir up trouble, but I am not biting. Thanks again hunquote:Originally posted by squiggle:
I don't wish to stir the debate up but I do think Storm that your original post was a valid comment on Siavash and did not warrant an attack in response.
quote:Originally posted by storm:
Just got a bit annoyed at Dance settees' post ........ they called us Brits rather nasty names?
But how, when and where was I rude? I wasn't, was I?.quote:Originally posted by JacksonB:
he/she said that as a nation we are selfish and ignorant of the real suffering in africa,i suspect many of us are.
quote:Originally posted by storm:
I have never been a massive fan of Siavash, as I think he is dead boring, but oh dear, telling us we should start giving our money to Africa! Who does he think he is?! I am so glad Marcus gave him what for!
This country has never been in such severe financial strife, with people losing their homes and jobs and livelihoods, left right and centre, and he comes out with a doozy like this! How ignorant and naive is he, to come out with something like this?!
Shut the heck up Siavash, stick to wearing ridiculous clothes and silly make up, and trying to create an image that no-one else in the world would want to copy.
And this using the f-word every seventh word or so, for no particular reason, as part of a normal conversation, is totally narking me off now. Can you imagine the furore if one of the girls did this?!
Can't help thinking that Siavash is trying to be something he isn't. I am under the impression that the Siavash we are seeing, is not the real person, as he seems very fake to me. To be honest, he sounds and looks plain silly to me.
If he is up next, I will be voting for him. Unless he is up against Sree, then I will vote for him, but I would be quite happy to see Siavash go. He is pointless and boring and brings nothing to the house, and on top of that, he talks crap too.
i like colourful people, l like his dress sense and his sense of comedy. he is vain, as are others in the house, a bb requirement i think. his culture a male dom one, maybe the reason for his love of himself. but at least he says things other than the usual and hasn't done the ultimate sin of a-licking and giving his power away. there isn't much else this pitiful bb offers, except sav marcus and freddies chats.Dance settee did and others spotted it too... check out squiggles posts.quote:Originally posted by JacksonB:
no one attacked you storm
Good post squigglequote:Originally posted by squiggle:I just think I would have had a little more respect for Siavash if he had said something along the lines of "and I give on a personal level and I wish others would do the same". As I said before we give a lot in foreign aid and I do doubt whether we can still afford to give as much as we do. (Reading this back I am editing so as to make clear that this refers to Government aid not what we give as a couple, referring to whether the country can still afford to give as much as we always have done)
quote:Originally posted by storm:
You have your opinions and views dance settee, which I totally and completely 100% disagree with and I think your remarks towards me for having an opinion are rude and unneccesary. So I aren't going to answer any more of your replies in this thread.
Sounds like he was making a good point with respect to the imbalance of wealth in the poor countries and the wealthy western ones...Each to their own I guess bozz. I just don't really like him much and find him boring and his suggestion we SHOULD give money to Africa, made me pretty angry. I bet he lost a few followers then. Especially the people who are on their knees financially in this country and about to lose everything.quote:Originally posted by bozzimacoo:whatever he's said doesn't matter if you don't like the fella
quote:Originally posted by DanceSettee:quote:Originally posted by storm:
You have your opinions and views dance settee, which I totally and completely 100% disagree with and I think your remarks towards me for having an opinion are rude and unneccesary. So I aren't going to answer any more of your replies in this thread.
it's for the best...i've said my piece and stand by it....really, if you'd spent any time in a poverty struck African village, you wouldn't have the views you do
I may be ranting, but i'm not ranting in ignorance....and that's where we differ.
Thanks a-team. A good constructive response - I guess it just annoyed me, because when this country is in such severe trouble, I don't care to hear that kind of remark from someone in the BB house, who IMO doesn't know what the heck he is talking about. Of course, others are entitled to different views; I just think it's possible to disagree without attacking people personally, like someone did to me earlier. You have proven that with your post. Thank you.quote:Originally posted by theAteam:
He was just expressing a opinion on a fact, however Marcus corrected him that basically we do not live in a idealist world and due to corruption etc it would not solve the problem.
Why should Siavash not be able to air his views/thoughts on the subject?
quote:Originally posted by storm:Each to their own I guess bozz. I just don't really like him much and find him boring and his suggestion we SHOULD give money to Africa, made me pretty angry. I bet he lost a few followers then JMO of course.quote:Originally posted by bozzimacoo:whatever he's said doesn't matter if you don't like the fella
they are prepared to rip the public off, hang and ruin the life of the office bod that stitched them up - imprison someone that fiddles a couple of squid, while handing out taxpayers money for quango crap funds... and don't get me started on the rip-off tv licence 
quote:Originally posted by theAteam:
Why should Siavash not be able to air his views/thoughts on the subject?
quote:Originally posted by theAteam:
He was just expressing a opinion on a fact, however Marcus corrected him that basically we do not live in a idealist world and due to corruption etc it would not solve the problem.
Why should Siavash not be able to air his views/thoughts on the subject?
Like I said earlier squiggle, I think Siavash is going on about things he knows very little about, and I am thinking that he is not the only one.quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
One thing I would just add. I can appreciate that you have seen the poverty in Africa for yourself. But there has been terrible behaviour by African despots who have taken aid for themselves and not passed any on to the people. It is not always easy to get the aid to the people who need it.
quote:Originally posted by china:
he's the new bono
aka wanker
quote:Originally posted by bozzimacoo:it made you angry, i took it with a pinch of salt - the government ads of whistle-blowing benefit cheats get right on my tits
All this makes me mad too! 
Take care.quote:Originally posted by storm:Thanks a-team. A good constructive response - I guess it just annoyed me, because when this country is in such severe trouble, I don't care to hear that kind of remark from someone in the BB house, who IMO doesn't know what the heck he is talking about. Of course, others are entitled to different views; I just think it's possible to disagree without attacking people personally, like someone did to me earlier. You have proven that with your post. Thank you.quote:Originally posted by theAteam:
He was just expressing a opinion on a fact, however Marcus corrected him that basically we do not live in a idealist world and due to corruption etc it would not solve the problem.
Why should Siavash not be able to air his views/thoughts on the subject?
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I think that was the first serious conversation I have heard them have in the house.
It is usually about hair, make-up, food, clubbing and other trivial things.
Those 3 seem to be the more intelligent out of the lot of them.
quote:Originally posted by theAteam:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I think that was the first serious conversation I have heard them have in the house.
It is usually about hair, make-up, food, clubbing and other trivial things.
Those 3 seem to be the more intelligent out of the lot of them.
Great minds and all that...
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I think that was the first serious conversation I have heard them have in the house.
It is usually about hair, make-up, food, clubbing and other trivial things.
Those 3 seem to be the more intelligent out of the lot of them.
quote:Originally posted by squiggle:
Hi LL yes I agree, how sad that they've stuck such a bunch of wannabees in this year. Oh for some more like Freddie, well not necessarily all like him of course, but more interesting, more individualistic, Freddie would have lapped it up and we could have got something really interesting to watch.
quote:Originally posted by captain marbles:
It's an issue that has been debated widely and along the lines that Si and Marcus held. It's hugely complex and difficult to find the most effective way to lift post colonial countries out of the mire of debt and corruption which they're in but kudos to both of them for being aware that there is a world beyond the walls of the BB house.
I await with interest the debate between Kris and Dogface on the merits or otherwise of authoritarian capitalism on the Chinese model as a mechanism for alleviating poverty.
I suppose that would depend on the size of the Chinese model's boobsquote:Originally posted by captain marbles:
It's an issue that has been debated widely and along the lines that Si and Marcus held. It's hugely complex and difficult to find the most effective way to lift post colonial countries out of the mire of debt and corruption which they're in but kudos to both of them for being aware that there is a world beyond the walls of the BB house.
I await with interest the debate between Kris and Dogface on the merits or otherwise of authoritarian capitalism on the Chinese model as a mechanism for alleviating poverty.
quote:Originally posted by DanceSettee:
he went up in my estimation for that
but then i've been to africa and seen the poverty for myself......sorry Storm. but your post just highlights the disgusting selfishness and ignorance of the ordinary Brit who really doesn't have a clue what real poverty is
.....but who cares about people without water when losing the means to upgrade to a new plasma telly is much more pressing eh
Well done Siavash
quote:Originally posted by Demantoid:
I agreed with both him and Marcus, if that's possible
I think as human beings, we have a moral responsibility to help those less fortunate than ourselves. We're lucky to have been born in a country where the water doesn't kill us, and where healthcare and education are free and available to all.
But Marcus was also right about several African nations being ruled by corrupt despots, who line their own pockets while their people starve.
quote:Originally posted by storm:
I have never been a massive fan of Siavash, as I think he is dead boring, but oh dear, telling us we should start giving our money to Africa! Who does he think he is?! I am so glad Marcus gave him what for!
This country has never been in such severe financial strife, with people losing their homes and jobs and livelihoods, left right and centre, and he comes out with a doozy like this! How ignorant and naive is he, to come out with something like this?!
Shut the heck up Siavash, stick to wearing ridiculous clothes and silly make up, and trying to create an image that no-one else in the world would want to copy.
And this using the f-word every seventh word or so, for no particular reason, as part of a normal conversation, is totally narking me off now. Can you imagine the furore if one of the girls did this?!
Can't help thinking that Siavash is trying to be something he isn't. I am under the impression that the Siavash we are seeing, is not the real person, as he seems very fake to me. To be honest, he sounds and looks plain silly to me.
If he is up next, I will be voting for him. Unless he is up against Sree, then I will vote for him, but I would be quite happy to see Siavash go. He is pointless and boring and brings nothing to the house, and on top of that, he talks crap too.
quote:Originally posted by The Guru:quote:Originally posted by storm:
I have never been a massive fan of Siavash, as I think he is dead boring, but oh dear, telling us we should start giving our money to Africa! Who does he think he is?! I am so glad Marcus gave him what for!
This country has never been in such severe financial strife, with people losing their homes and jobs and livelihoods, left right and centre, and he comes out with a doozy like this! How ignorant and naive is he, to come out with something like this?!
Shut the heck up Siavash, stick to wearing ridiculous clothes and silly make up, and trying to create an image that no-one else in the world would want to copy.
And this using the f-word every seventh word or so, for no particular reason, as part of a normal conversation, is totally narking me off now. Can you imagine the furore if one of the girls did this?!
Can't help thinking that Siavash is trying to be something he isn't. I am under the impression that the Siavash we are seeing, is not the real person, as he seems very fake to me. To be honest, he sounds and looks plain silly to me.
If he is up next, I will be voting for him. Unless he is up against Sree, then I will vote for him, but I would be quite happy to see Siavash go. He is pointless and boring and brings nothing to the house, and on top of that, he talks crap too.
What a sh!t reason to go off someone.
I doubt that you ever really liked the dude.
