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Originally posted by storm:
I have never been a massive fan of Siavash, as I think he is dead boring, but oh dear, telling us we should start giving our money to Africa! Who does he think he is?! I am so glad Marcus gave him what for!

This country has never been in such severe financial strife, with people losing their homes and jobs and livelihoods, left right and centre, and he comes out with a doozy like this! How ignorant and naive is he, to come out with something like this?!

Shut the heck up Siavash, stick to wearing ridiculous clothes and silly make up, and trying to create an image that no-one else in the world would want to copy.

And this using the f-word every seventh word or so, for no particular reason, as part of a normal conversation, is totally narking me off now. Can you imagine the furore if one of the girls did this?!

Can't help thinking that Siavash is trying to be something he isn't. I am under the impression that the Siavash we are seeing, is not the real person, as he seems very fake to me. To be honest, he sounds and looks plain silly to me.

If he is up next, I will be voting for him. Unless he is up against Sree, then I will vote for him, but I would be quite happy to see Siavash go. He is pointless and boring and brings nothing to the house, and on top of that, he talks crap too.

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Originally posted by squiggle:
I agree, he is creating an image but I think its fake and he is really just a boring twerp who has to dress up in colourful outfits to make himself interesting.

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Originally posted by storm:

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Originally posted by squiggle:
I agree, he is creating an image but I think its fake and he is really just a boring twerp who has to dress up in colourful outfits to make himself interesting.

Thank God LOL Thought I was the only one.

Also think he should shut his gob when it comes to world affairs. I mean, telling us we should give money to Africa and stop keeping it for ourselves. That made me so angry. He hasn't got a CLUE what he is talking about. I bet he lost a lot of fans that night. And people who were 'on the fence' with him would have really gone off him too.

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
he was pointing out the imbalance of wealthy nations as opposed to poor countries and he's right, what we spend and trivia could set a poor nation on it's feet, not that,that's going to happen bcause marcus is right to, the corrupt governments won't allow it to happen

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
he was pointing out the imbalance of wealthy nations as opposed to poor countries and he's right, what we spend and trivia could set a poor nation on it's feet, not that,that's going to happen bcause marcus is right to, the corrupt governments won't allow it to happen

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
he was pointing out the imbalance of wealthy nations as opposed to poor countries and he's right, what we spend and trivia could set a poor nation on it's feet, not that,that's going to happen bcause marcus is right to, the corrupt governments won't allow it to happen

We do give a lot of foreign aid from this country. How much foreign aid does Iran give I wonder?

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Originally posted by JacksonB:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
he was pointing out the imbalance of wealthy nations as opposed to poor countries and he's right, what we spend and trivia could set a poor nation on it's feet, not that,that's going to happen bcause marcus is right to, the corrupt governments won't allow it to happen

We do give a lot of foreign aid from this country. How much foreign aid does Iran give I wonder?

no idea, but how is that relevant?

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by JacksonB:

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by JacksonB:
he was pointing out the imbalance of wealthy nations as opposed to poor countries and he's right, what we spend and trivia could set a poor nation on it's feet, not that,that's going to happen bcause marcus is right to, the corrupt governments won't allow it to happen

We do give a lot of foreign aid from this country. How much foreign aid does Iran give I wonder?

no idea, but how is that relevant?

Well pardon me but as Siavash raised the question of giving aid to help poorer countries and he is from Iran I thought it was very relevant

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Originally posted by squiggle:

We do give a lot of foreign aid from this country. How much foreign aid does Iran give I wonder?

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
he went up in my estimation for that

but then i've been to africa and seen the poverty for myself......sorry Storm. but your post just highlights the disgusting selfishness and ignorance of the ordinary Brit who really doesn't have a clue what real poverty is A person on the lowest benefits here would be like a millionnaire in some countries there

.....but who cares about people without water when losing the means to upgrade to a new plasma telly is much more pressing eh

Well done Siavash

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Originally posted by squiggle:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JacksonB:
i haven't as yet heard his views on iran.[QUOTE]

but he is quick to tell us in Britain what to do though eh

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
he went up in my estimation for that

but then i've been to africa and seen the poverty for myself......sorry Storm. but your post just highlights the disgusting selfishness and ignorance of the ordinary Brit who really doesn't have a clue what real poverty is A person on the lowest benefits here would be like a millionnaire in some countries there

.....but who cares about people without water when losing the means to upgrade to a new plasma telly is much more pressing eh

Well done Siavash

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Originally posted by squiggle:But also some people from this country (like myself and my husband) have been giving aid to Africa for the last 45 years. And we are not rich people but we know that a small amount from us makes a huge huge difference over there. We have sponsored children and seen the difference that education makes, given money for digging wells to provide clean water so that women don't have to walk half a day every day to get it etc. etc. So we are not all heartless grabbers of plasma TV's. But I do not begrudge those who want to spend their hard earned cash on little luxuries for their families either.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Play nicely now peeps. Let's have a good debate

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Originally posted by storm:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Play nicely now peeps. Let's have a good debate

I am trying LL, but it is very hard when you get sanctimonious posts like the one from dance settee

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Originally posted by storm:
And ........... breathe ............ I shan't bite at any more of those kind of posts. I just found that one out of order. But I shall ignore any similar ones now

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

Everyone's got different opinions on things though Storm, which is what makes this forum interesting. It will be good to have a debate that stays here and doesn't get moved to the Troll Tank

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Originally posted by JacksonB:

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Originally posted by storm:
And ........... breathe ............ I shan't bite at any more of those kind of posts. I just found that one out of order. But I shall ignore any similar ones now

you've posted several rants in this thread about vash and his views, which i read and your repsnse to those wh have a different point view is extreme and now getting personal.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I could go and make some camomile tea if you like?

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Originally posted by squiggle:


But also some people from this country (like myself and my husband) have been giving aid to Africa for the last 45 years. And we are not rich people but we know that a small amount from us makes a huge huge difference over there. We have sponsored children and seen the difference that education makes, given money for digging wells to provide clean water so that women don't have to walk half a day every day to get it etc. etc. So we are not all heartless grabbers of plasma TV's. But I do not begrudge those who want to spend their hard earned cash on little luxuries for their families either.

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Originally posted by storm:

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Originally posted by JacksonB:

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Originally posted by storm:
And ........... breathe ............ I shan't bite at any more of those kind of posts. I just found that one out of order. But I shall ignore any similar ones now

you've posted several rants in this thread about vash and his views, which i read and your repsnse to those wh have a different point view is extreme and now getting personal.

Just got a bit annoyed at Dance settees' post that's all and said I found the post ignorant, I haven't got personal: they did though, they called us Brits rather nasty names How have my views been personal or rude?

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Originally posted by DanceSettee:

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Originally posted by squiggle:


But also some people from this country (like myself and my husband) have been giving aid to Africa for the last 45 years. And we are not rich people but we know that a small amount from us makes a huge huge difference over there. We have sponsored children and seen the difference that education makes, given money for digging wells to provide clean water so that women don't have to walk half a day every day to get it etc. etc. So we are not all heartless grabbers of plasma TV's. But I do not begrudge those who want to spend their hard earned cash on little luxuries for their families either.

I don't begrudge it either....one person/family can't change everything in the world and your own family will always come first and no matter what we give it would never be enough...that's for governments to sort out

.......what sickened me about the OP's post was the comparison between British poverty and African poverty.......there is no F***** comparison

....wail about how the credit crunch is affecting you by all means, but don't do it in the same context of real poverty......it just makes a person look greedy and shallow.

...and then to mock a person who actually recognises the facts, like Siavash did....says more about the self centredness of our society than it does about Siavash...........shame on those who agree with that perspective