I want BB to burn the duvet like they did with Chicken Stu's hat. 

I don't think she acts like a Queen Bee, at all.

I think the women in there see each other as equals and have good relationships with each other.

It's the men who are behaving like strutting tossers, calling themselves 'the big players' and bitching incessantly.

I can see that the duvet disappearances have annoyed people, but she's fallen for the biggest player in there, and it's really messing with her mind.
Last night, she tried to move beds, but he was having none of it and used more emotional blackmail to keep her close.

She has been out and about a lot more, recently, and I hope she stays out of his bed, at least during the daytime, but I still see the funny, friendly woman, who hates bitching and arguments, despite Sam trying his best to out the 'real' Josie!

i like her........and if she likes sucking her thumb and doesn't want to use the stuff to stop it....well it's no big deal really imo.

Strange how people see things so differently, that imo is the thing that people she is popular with least like about her ,  (and isn't it Corin who is the known favourite?) She's always washing her hair

I like her too....   and I am starting to think that in an indirect way Sam going in the house is going to work in Josies favour.    This is not me condoning Sam's behaviour...  I can't stand the little sod, but the effect he has had on Josie is going to get her more support I think.

She's looking quite unhappy in there (therefore getting those that think she was giving it the big I am on back on board), as Blizzie said, she tried to move beds last night (getting those that were fed up with her being under the duvet with JJ back on board).

Some of the stuff that Sam has said to her has been that OTT that she is getting some sympathy from those that don't usually like her.

These are just my observations.... Sam being in the house hasn't changed how i feel about Josie, I have always liked her, faults n all...    but I like the idea that Sam's insults will actually increase her popularity with the viewer! 

She very seldom has a conversation with any of the others, unless she's talking about herself, but she makes a point of saying 'all roight luv'  to one of her favourites if they are close by,  then gives them a false smile (because she really doesn't care if they're all right or not) then her face goes back to looking empty.

question about the bed linen.......didn't bb used to get them to change their beds and supply them with fresh linen every week?......or have i invented that?!....i'm sure they did

She should spend more time with Corin, Corin brings out her light-hearted side.

She said she wanted to sleep somewhere else because she couldn't trust her sexual urges/ frustration. JJ1 said he felt uncomfortable just sleeping in his boxers beside her. Which one of them sounds like the tease?

Seriously, get her out.  Enough's enough.

I agree that Sam (and Jo) being in the house has helped Josie.  At last someone has given her food for thought, especially about JJ.  Sam could be a good ally. She should spend more time with ANYONE except JJ.

With the bookies, for now, yes.  But in reality John James is the one who is saved week after week by his ARMY of fans, despite everyone else's best efforts to vote him out.  No other housemate comes close when it comes to fan bases.

He does.

He knows exactly how she feels and still persuades her to carry on sleeping and cuddling in the same bed.

He's playing a strange and sinister game.

If the pair of them would stop their stupid annoying giggling, and for once listened when task rules are being read out, then maybe they wouldn't keep having to ask the others what the rules are. He sets great store by being a team player - he isn't!   She just coasts along, doing her own selfish thing,  knowing that whatever she does wrong he won't call her on it, the way he jumps down everyone else's throat for their failings!

They're both playing a game Blizzie, she knows he doesn't want to be without her for whatever reason and so she tips her toe into the water when she feels she needs to tighten the apron strings. He should just be honest once and for all and tell her how he feels (although she knows), kiss the big tabloid story good bye and have a bit of fun for the last couple of weeks.

Please feel free to read past the mixed metaphors.

But he dangles the 'wait until we get outside' carrot, just to keep her hopes up.

They strip and change the bedding every week. You hear BB say please bring all bedding and towels to the diary room.

But if she doesn't see the brush-off after all these weeks, she must be incredibly stupid. She's 25, not 15.

He seems somehow emotionally dependent on her  'though Blizzie. Tell ya what, if I was in her position and snuggled up to and being constantly stroked etc. by someone I fancied for this long, I'd be chewing my bloody arms and legs off! Which reminds me: socks, I may have to start a new thread

I've said for weeks he's giving mixed signals, but you're right, after all these weeks, you'd have to be pretty stupid not to realise he's using her.  I think Josie realises "the truth" but chooses to go along with the FAKE romance.  You can almost see the £££ signs in her eyes.

You can be fooled at any age, by affairs of the heart.

Yes, he does, which only adds to her confusion.

Imo HIM! He doesn't appear to be interested in anything sexual, she clearly does

Josie for the win she does not pretend to be something she is not I would say the most genuine HM in there, she is not trying to impress the public cant say that really about the others,Sam should get  a warning for the way he has got so personal in his non stop insults to Josie, it is not funny she is his biggest target I admire her for not going into the diaryroom  crying, at least she is not looking for the sympathy vote like many before her have done.

Well said Marge

ahhhhh thanks longcat............i must clean my ears out cos i've never heard it this series!!!

Sorry, but I'm not accepting Josie to be that naive.
He has shown no sign of any sexual interest whatsover. For some reason (probably financial) he's interested in cuddling, but that is as far as it has gone after all this time. She tries to kiss him, he avoids, avoids, avoids unless she manages to get a smacker anywhere, then he wipes it off. These are two people hellbend of playing a charade.

Yep

I think he's got a dead weird attitude towards intimacy.

i think he's got a dead weird attitude towards women full stop!!

Strange isn't it, considering how close he is to his Mam, most lads who love their Mams are more likely to be feminists, well in my experience...

I really believe he has not come out of the closet yet I could be wrong .. I usually am

She did use the lotion BB gave her for her thumb sucking,she put it on Sams toothbrush.

Yes that was a joke and he found it funny by getting his own back stuffing garlic down Josie's pillow in the bedroom but John James noticed it while Sam disappeared and swapped Sam's pilliow with Josie's.



About Josie I'm liking her more each day, she's got her faults and flaws but i've seen her good and bad side which is the purpose of the BB environment, she makes me laugh some don't find her funny or can't stand her fair play. I do think Josie is fun but she has her down days, she isn't a bad person deep down.


Also Josie can be lazy with the lying in bed etc but i've seen her doing cooking for the housemates and sometimes they haven't even said thank you or noticed how long it's taken her to do it, she's also cleans the bathroom so she is pulling her weight in some way.

He was doing her a favour with the garlic,it may have helped mask the stink of JJ's hair which was unwashed for 8 weeks.

She's not stupid though. If she was genuinely thinking JJ was genuine before Sam's arrival, then surely the stuff he's said to her regarding her and JJ's relationship must have given her some food for thought? She strikes me as wanting to be in denial of anything slightly controversial said to her about the relationship or anything that could make her think it's not as genuine as she'd like to imagine.

It's like she's encased in this little bubble with him in the make-believe world in the house. Good luck to her if it makes her happy, but I've said before I don't think she's anyone's fool (especially where fellas are concerned). And it's not like he's guaranteed her a relationship or marriage or anything like that. Yep, he's playing a good game but she's a willing participant.

I just hope that if this doesn't continue outside the house that JJ gets all the blame and she gets all the sympathy as the woman scorned or led on, cos from where I'm sitting she's had his not so positive reactions to their relationship blatantly said to her face and if she chooses to ignore it then that's up to her, but it takes 2 to tango.

Sam has insinuated that he feels she is being false, which she knows is not true, and he has said that he thinks John James has genuine feelings for her.

So, if she believes Sam at all, she may think that John James could have feelings for her.

More confusion.

She has voiced her doubts about what will happen, eventually, but she is still holding out some hope.

I think even the most mature and intelligent people can be fooled in the love stakes.