steroids are terrible for affecting your weight...hope you're OK

Very true - one of my friends has steroids for her IBS - she is normally a size 8/10 at a guess but balloons on the meds!

I am fine Kaytee,there's folk much much worse off than me,I'll be asking that doctor for Zenical soon,they shift the excess weight alright.

Are you on them indefinately Lee?    The steroids.

I wonder if my niece knows about them....she has ballooned since she was put on them and she can't exercise much because it's her feet that are the problem

It depends how my chest and lungs are misbehaving Sparkles,They're only a tiny little brown tablet and I hate the sight of the evil git's ,I look at each one before I swallow it and think how many pounds are you going to fling on me you b*****d.

They do work Kaytee,really work and the doc closely monitors you while on them.I had them before and lost loads of the weight I'd gained from steroids,well tbh I more or less blackmailed the doctor no more steroids because of the weight gain so she put me on the Zenical.Time for more blackmail me thinks.

Awwww  bless you hun.....  I am so sorry you have lung problems.    What a shit.  Coz you can't exactly not take the drugs can you?  You poor thing...

Do you get greasy exercet poo with those Lee?....

Sparkles apart from being wheezy Teasy at times I'm ok,I do push myself but that's just me,it tires me out but running around after my grandsons is worth each second of it,every cloud has a silver lining.

Stonks I can't quote but the answer is yes.They *remove* 1/3rd of the fat in everything you eat,I don't eat a high fat content diet but you'd be amazed what happens even then.

LOL @Stonks... greasy poo!    And Lee, you don't look anywhere NEAR old enough to be a grandma! 

My friend took those and had no bother but I've heard of others lets say its comes out like a Porche turbo....

Hope you get them Lee, I'll mention that to my niece thanks

well at least you can't get bunged up

This thread has meandered way off topic now...from obesity, to pastry to poo in 4 pages

 Bad bad hijackers....KT do suggest to your niece she ask for Zenical,especially if she is really incapable of doing too much exercise to shift it they would be a great advantage and incentive.

Wazznme....

I'm quite lucky with my kids as they will eat whatever's put in front of them. Greens, meat, whatever. I cook about 90% of our meals from scratch and it doesn't take me that long but it's maybe because I enjoy it. Lots of people hate cooking so I don't blame them for buying ready meals. I don't class frozen fish, chips etc ready meals btw. It's quite often fresher as it's frozen quickly. I'm also lucky that my girls have shown a huge interest in cooking and every weekend they cook the meals for us. I'm sure that'll change when they go to high school and discover boys.

It's all about balance though. Your body needs a wee bit of everything including salt and fat. Plus the exercise issue. Kids nowadays are no way as fit as we were in the 80s. Karma was right about games consoles and internet playing a part in obesity. 

I do feel for this girl having to be a carer at such a young age but surely that was monitored by social services? She didn't just become that size overnight so someone should have picked up on it sooner. Now by the looks of it it's highly unlikely she'll shift it.

Well I presumed that when someone said they 'cook from scratch,' that they cook everything from scratch, like from the very beginning with nothing frozen/pre-cooked.  (I mean spending hours peeling veg and baking pastry and cooking fresh meat and stuff......)  THAT is why I said that SOME people don't have time to do that.  I certainly bloody don't...  I didn't mean that I feed my family shit all the time FFS.  Cooking from scratch - to me -  means making it from the original ingredients, and 'cooking from scratch.'    Do people think that I actually feed my family with takeaways and microwave meals and mcdonalds all the time?  FFS!    Some people love to make assumptions don't they?!

Like many people, and like some people have mentioned here, I do actually buy some stuff frozen, but still put on proper meals with veg and do fresh meals sometimes.  I wasn't saying I can't be arsed to cook proper meals and give my family all sorts of shit (as has been suggested,) I was just saying not EVERYone has time to cook from scratch,..  So soozy, don't assume that I don't agree with feeding my family decent stuff, and imply that I can't be ARSED to feed my family proper decent food...  I just said that SOME people can't do it or don't have the time  (and many people actually don't, even if they like to kid people that they do!!)   I didn't say *I* didn't do anything, or *I* couldn't be bothered, so stop making assumptions and get off your high horse.

Now I shall stop "acting the victim," and log off, and then sign in under another name in half an hour, as that is apparently what I do.    Good day to you all.  I'm off.......

How did full time working parents manage years ago before ready peeled veg, microwaves and ready meals?

Sorry to sound pedantic Cupcake - I am actually not arguing with YOU as such, just the people out there who say they are too busy to cook...It does not take long to peel a carrot.
I have to go back to my original point  - people don't know how to cook anymore - very sad but true.


I am afraid I do make my own pastry - my mum would turn in her grave if I bought shop brought stuff.

It's pretty much a race against time now. Because of her size she'll have to take it really slowly to avoid putting an undue strain on her heart and other organs, which means that it's going to take a long time before there'll be a significant weight change. Meanwhile, because of her size, her life is actually in danger because of the strain it's putting on her heart and other organs. So the longer she is in a grossly overweight condition, the longer her life is under threat.

An almost no win situation!

I agree and that was my point yesterday.Some women aren't mums first anymore. I don't blame anybody because we fought for women's equality, but I feel that if a woman is at home 24/7, she can monitor her children better (although the same should go for fathers).

I'd better lower my food intake!