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Originally posted by Penny Gabrielwise:
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Originally posted by Irish-Princess:
Sorry I though people would have understood that I mean children when I said family. Almost everyone has family such as parents/siblings etc, but how many people financially support these people?
Rather a lot, I would have thought.


Realistically there isn't alot. By support I mean sole provider of food, home, warmth, education/health costs. I would imagine the number of adults in the country who are the sole provider of all these things for their parents is very small.
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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
In terms of marketing... we all get stereotyped... we get stereotyped by the car we drive, the brand of white goods we buy, the number of kids we have, our postcodes, our sexual orientation, etc etc etc.

Most of us get that these are just that... stereotypes... generalisations.

In reality, most of us can fit into lots of categories... or not tick all the boxes we 'should' in our pigeonhole!

DINKys (double income no kids) is another one!

(btw... when I did my marketing module... I did sit there gob smacked and wide eyed. It felt very very wrong to be generalising in such terms)


The word ‘stereotyping’ suggests a negative portrayal for most though, eh.
When it comes to marketing the likes of Tesco use the information from your clubcard to sell more - I mean single people with no kids generally don’t buy nappies, it’s not a stereotype it’s a fact, so Tesco don’t send those people the two for one nappy vouchers.
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Originally posted by Irish-Princess:
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Originally posted by Penny Gabrielwise:
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Originally posted by Irish-Princess:
Sorry I though people would have understood that I mean children when I said family. Almost everyone has family such as parents/siblings etc, but how many people financially support these people?
Rather a lot, I would have thought.


Realistically there isn't alot. By support I mean sole provider of food, home, warmth, education/health costs. I would imagine the number of adults in the country who are the sole provider of all these things for their parents is very small.
Who mentioned anything about sole providers? Have you recently arrived from the 1930s? Eeker
PG
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Originally posted by The Singing Ringing Tree:
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Originally posted by Cinds:
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Originally posted by The Singing Ringing Tree:
Crying cinds mucled in on my gay Frowner I'm thinking of starting a vendeta Ninja


Do not harm the pony! Eeker

*runs off to throw a water bomb in Yoville*
I will have my revenge cinds mwahahahahaa Mad I will steal gypsy from you Ninja

ohh no the forum layedees are fighting over me again *legs it down the pub*
FM
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Originally posted by Irish-Princess:
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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
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Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
Yay! One of my best mates is gay and I love him. Valentine


my boyfriend is gay and i love him too Wink and we have 5 kids (fostered) that is our family but we also have parents and siblings which are also family.


I didn't say no gay people had children, I simply said it wasn't as common. Also when you speak of your parents/siblings are you sole providers for these people? Do you put food on the table for them, pay their bills etc?


well first off my post realy wasnt aimed at anyone, i agree with you that the number of gay men and even lesbians with children is lower in percentage terms than the majority of the population.

no we are not sole providers for any of our parents / siblings, in fact in a couple of cases i honestly dont think i'd provide for them even if they needed it, however as far as my father is concerned then yes i do pay all his nursing home costs and i provide anything he needs (or wants, if its reasonable) but that mainly consists of new tv's and stereos as hes very good at finding creative ways involving food or body fluids at destroying the remotes for them and he cant operate them directly, i did try replacing the remotes with these all in one types but that just seemed to confuse him (he's easily confused), my o'h's farther and mother are fit and fine so no worries there but if ever they needed our help they wouldnt need to ask.
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Originally posted by Penny Gabrielwise:
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Originally posted by JasmineJ:
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Originally posted by Penny Gabrielwise:
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Originally posted by Puddychops:
What is the difference between gay and geigh apart from the spelling Blush


also the vast majority of gay men don't have families to support A few adopt chidlren or find a way to have them but I think they are the minority
The Gay men I know like being single and 'sociable' Glance
Gay women seem much the same actually
What's with the children? I seriously don't get why one needs to have kids to be considered a family?

I'm thrilled to hear that gays and geighs totally prefer being single and 'sociable' to forming lifelong relationships. Glance


It’s just a turn of phrase, a very common one - surely you know that?

No one when asked ‘do you have a family’ thinks the asker is referring to siblings/parents, they mean do you have kids.
When I'm asked why I live so far from my family I never think "Oh, I have no kids, so who on earth are these people referring to?" Confused


Well of course you don’t, because it’s obvious what they’re referring to.
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Originally posted by Gypsie:
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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
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Originally posted by Gypsie:
im having 'jids' with a geigh Nod


.. and living here

twas all in my dream.....


Ohhhhh MY! well im turning geigh so i hope i will be able to afford the walls now Eeker


If you didn't have cold feet, Trolls would have been an excellent provider for you and the baby. Or was it Trolls that had cold feet... it's all a bit of blur now...
Kaffs
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Originally posted by Gypsie:
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Originally posted by The Singing Ringing Tree:
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Originally posted by Cinds:
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Originally posted by The Singing Ringing Tree:
Crying cinds mucled in on my gay Frowner I'm thinking of starting a vendeta Ninja


Do not harm the pony! Eeker

*runs off to throw a water bomb in Yoville*
I will have my revenge cinds mwahahahahaa Mad I will steal gypsy from you Ninja

ohh no the forum layedees are fighting over me again *legs it down the pub*
There will be no fight Mad
The Singing Ringing Tree
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Originally posted by Penny Gabrielwise:
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Originally posted by Irish-Princess:
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Originally posted by Penny Gabrielwise:
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Originally posted by Irish-Princess:
Sorry I though people would have understood that I mean children when I said family. Almost everyone has family such as parents/siblings etc, but how many people financially support these people?
Rather a lot, I would have thought.


Realistically there isn't alot. By support I mean sole provider of food, home, warmth, education/health costs. I would imagine the number of adults in the country who are the sole provider of all these things for their parents is very small.
Who mentioned anything about sole providers? Have you recently arrived from the 1930s? Eeker


It is what i have been referring to all along when I say support.
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Originally posted by Irish-Princess:
Queenie, on the grand scale it is very uncommon, I had to do a research assignment of that very topic so I do know a bit about it! I admit the birds and bees comment was uncalled for, but much like childless straight couples they have more disposable income and as gays are not able to have children biologicaly this dramitcally reduced the liklihood of them having children so I think the gay couple are less likely to have children to support is less a harsh statement and more a reality based on the facts.


I don't disagree with the facts, I agree that on the whole gay couples are less likely to have kids than other socio-economic goups. I also know a bit about this, I have a first class degree in history and specialised in multi disciplinary history. My main interest was gender and sexuality and so I have read extensively on sociological profiling of these subjects. Whilst I think that this can be really useful I do also think that sociological stereotyping can be hugely detrimental to all sorts of communities and issues because it allows these things to be discussed in black and white terms, which of course these things never are. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that was your intention at all but the birds and bees comment just kind of fitted that scenario. I live smack bang in the middle of Manchester and Leeds so we have a fairly large and active gay community up here so maybe I have my perceptions coloured by that. I know that if my mate Graham was reading this now he'd be killing himself laughing at all of us for engaging in this discussion.
Queen of the High Teas
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Originally posted by Mike Strutter:
I see a counsellor at my club who is a right old Queen ...
he is a right laff like Alan Carr Thumbs Up

He told one woman the other day , hey love did you get dressed in the dark this morning ...
then told another .. Big Grin
Less makeup is best love you look like Danny La Rue Laugh
Is it just me who doesn't actually find these comments funny? He just sounds rude to me. Confused Commenting nastily on someone's appearance, doesn't make someone a right laugh IMO; just bloody rude.
CheekyPixie
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Originally posted by Gypsie:
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If you didn't have cold feet, Trolls would have been an excellent provider for you and the baby. Or was it Trolls that had cold feet... it's all a bit of blur now...


Ohhh pooor kaffy Big Grin we is seeeeping into your subconscious in your sleep. Ohhhh this is terrible Laugh


I don't mind that - it's the fact that I was trying to talk you on top of the barn raising and crapping myself at the height I minded!
Kaffs
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Originally posted by Gypsie:
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Originally posted by fracas:
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Originally posted by Gypsie:
ohh no the forum layedees are fighting over me again *legs it down the pub*


I have just found out I'm gay due to having no issue.

DAMN MY SHRIVELLED USELESS INSIDES.

Crying


Come down the pub, ill get you a babycham Hug


DON'T SAY BABY AT ME Mad
fracas
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Originally posted by JasmineJ:
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Originally posted by Penny Gabrielwise:
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Originally posted by JasmineJ:
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Originally posted by Penny Gabrielwise:
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Originally posted by Puddychops:
What is the difference between gay and geigh apart from the spelling Blush


also the vast majority of gay men don't have families to support A few adopt chidlren or find a way to have them but I think they are the minority
The Gay men I know like being single and 'sociable' Glance
Gay women seem much the same actually
What's with the children? I seriously don't get why one needs to have kids to be considered a family?

I'm thrilled to hear that gays and geighs totally prefer being single and 'sociable' to forming lifelong relationships. Glance


It’s just a turn of phrase, a very common one - surely you know that?

No one when asked ‘do you have a family’ thinks the asker is referring to siblings/parents, they mean do you have kids.
When I'm asked why I live so far from my family I never think "Oh, I have no kids, so who on earth are these people referring to?" Confused


Well of course you don’t, because it’s obvious what they’re referring to.
It isn't obvious at all, Jasmine. What constitutes my family then? You tell me? Blood relatives? Husband? Extended family? In-laws? Animals? The mad cat laydee next door?
PG
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Originally posted by ~~KaffyBaffy~~:
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Originally posted by Gypsie:
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If you didn't have cold feet, Trolls would have been an excellent provider for you and the baby. Or was it Trolls that had cold feet... it's all a bit of blur now...


Ohhh pooor kaffy Big Grin we is seeeeping into your subconscious in your sleep. Ohhhh this is terrible Laugh


I don't mind that - it's the fact that I was trying to talk you on top of the barn raising and crapping myself at the height I minded!

Laugh thats brilliant! I have had a few dreams about forum members, all of them mad!
FM
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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
They also seem to have alot of money Nod


thats not true, if all gays had money there wouldnt be people selling themselves on the streets to pay for food because their families cant accept their child is gay.

maybe a start like that gives them the impetus to work harder as a big FU to such parents.
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