I am a non-believer, but some of what is said and preached in the lord's name is not as I would understand religion.
Where do these people get their strange ideas from?
Some of them actually seem to think you can wake up one day and say to yourself "Ok then I think I'll turn straight from now on."
They can't even show respect in death to this man.

At the same time in this country 5 men have been charged with stirring homophobic hatred in Derby. This is a first I believe.
They distributed leaflets and even shoved them through letter-boxes.
The leaflets were headed "The death Penalty?"

Brisket, plese tell me this isn't true!

I thought humans were supposed to be intelligent animals?  I thought humans' ability to feel compassion, to accept differences is what seperated us from "lower life forms".

Signed, PC.  

Sickening. 

Signed PC x

Suzi   (^^^)   I'm afraid it is true.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-e...-derbyshire-12309666

and
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/...omophobic-leaflet.do


I agree with what you say Suzi

I am dumbfounded, Brisket, I really am.

Good to see a prosecution, mind you! 

Re PC,s signing the petition, just checked my emails, after signing i got a lovely one back. Please sign if you can

Brenda Namiggade has won a temporary reprieve against deportation. Her case now goes for a judicial review.

BBC article

Apparently she was on the plane when the injunction was granted allowing a reprieve.
Curious that an immigration judge had previously declared there was no evidence to prove that Miss Namiggade was a lesbian.
Now I wonder ---how on earth do you prove that.
I am pleased I signed the petition. Uganda doesn't sound like a secure place to be.

It's only a temporary reprieve so far. We need to keep up the pressure.

Well exactly. This is the excuse that many immigration officials have used to turn down appeals by LGBT people.

GGRRRR!

So this is the sort of proof which immigration authorities think proves that someone is gay: NOT ENOUGH PROOF

PC, what a ridiculous way to determine someone's sexuality.
So, if I don't buy Heterosexual Monthly, will that mean I'm a lesbian?

Indeed, Yogi. You'd better watch out

This makes me so very, very angry.
(Thanks for posting it Peter C)
The tribunal immigration judge seems to be totally incompetent.
What nonsense has been spouted!
Quite, quite ridiculous. Also extremely vague.
That judgment is so flimsy, fragile, and unfounded. Utter tripe!

Signed and posted to my FB wall,

Thanks to everyone who's signed. Apparently, the next hearing is on Wednesday.

My son is gay, as a result I know many gays & lesbians, All I can say is they tend to be better people. Different yes but nicer to know.
My son has never had any of that type of literature to my knowledge. That is just rubbish. The best way to find out if a person is gay (besides trusting them) Look on their FB account. You will know within seconds..

Religion has a lot to answer for simply because it is too easy to miss-use it.

I bought that diva magazine when shabby from BB did her interview in it. What a pile of crap it was! I dont see what possible interest it would have for anyone, lesbian or straight, it had about two articles and the rest was filled with adverts. Dont blame her for not buying it!

Never heard such a ridiculous reason in my life.

Ive never watched harry potter or read the book, i cant alive!

I bet the judge has a pile of Nuts, next to his lavatory! 

Yes hes probably judging her by his standards.

I find it so hard to believe that what the tribunal immigration judge said
is a legal decision. Extraordinary!
I always thought our legal system was a stickler for accurate evidence, rather than supposition.
Appalling!

Referring back to the murder of David Kato in the OP of this thread.
Someone has been arrested.
But the press report says the killing was not related to David Kato's activities as
a campaigner for gay rights - they say it was a personal dispute.

Fingers crossed:

FULL ARTICLE

Fingers crossed indeed!
I do hope her case succeeds.


What atrocious stuff is spouted by the Ugandan MP in that article.
Homosexuality is learned behaviour and can be unlearned, he says.
"She must repent or reform."
They have no idea have they.
Makes me so angry.

Eh?

BBC3  - Monday 14th February  - 9.0 p.m.
"World's Worst Place to be Gay"
Scott Mills goes to Uganda to "experience some intense, endemic homophobia."
The Guardian's TV Guide describes it as "truly hard-hitting."

I have set the V+ to record it, thanks Brisket.

You're very welcome Yogi.


I've just read the preview again in The Guardian's Guide section.
One sentence says:
"When Mills meets with one MP in particular, his indignance gets the better of him, sending proceedings down a very dark road indeed."
No doubt I'll be angry, but I'll have to watch.

I suspect that's the MP who is behind the original "death sentence for homosexuals" bill.

There is an article about the making of tonight's programme
here

mugabe keeps the whole  hatred of gays going,ive heard his rants about british politicians, all being gay and corrupt, hes right  with the corrupt  statement, but ranting at  full volume that george brown is  tony blair's  wife is taking  the  whole believability thing  a bit too far.

we all know they destested each other. 

but the masses believe it and it keeps the attention off  the mess his govt. has created.

The main propaganda comes from American evangelists, though. If ever anyone has made me think of taking up arms and shooting people, it's them. If thine eye offend thee, etc.

I was really shocked to listen to interviews this morning with some people in Uganda who said that gays should be killed!! What are these people indoctrinated by? Is this a legitimate reason to sweep in and control another country or are these people not worth saving because Uganda has been bled dry in the last 2 centuries and has nothing to offer this country? Cynical? Not much.

I have just watched "World's Worst Place to be Gay".
I am glad they made the programme, and I thought Scott Mills did a very good job.

But I am so angry, frustrated and lost for words.
I will post later when I have calmed down a little.

Very noticeable how the majority of those spouting against homosexuality could not justify their point of view. They didn't even try - just stated it as fact.
Some came at it from a religious point of view.
I simply cannot understand how human brains can hold such views as these.
They seem to be burdened with unbelievable ignorance.
Jaw-dropping statements and opinions.
Still very angry.
More later perhaps.