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I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?

I do not hate freddie but i will post even if it is my favourite housemate if i think imo they are doing something i dont like

I like him want him to outstay the lisa gang no doubt about it

I still say whether you know it or not you slightly have a problem with the way he talks because he's posh, I dont think for one second if he had a cockney accent and "talked down to people" that this thread or your comments would have ever have been made.

no i do not care what accent he has i do not like people who patronise and in tonights show,he was ott in his tone imo and i cannot understand why anyone think it is anything to do with any other accent if people think that so be it i am not going to argue as long as i know what i truly mean myself that will do.

I like marcus want him to be in last three but he can be a complete and utter twat at times i am not going to be a fool to think any of them are perfect even if he was marcus with less hair from the north pole i would still find him a twat dosnt matter to me

Well I dont see this patronising thing, I find Kris far worse, but no one mentions that, I wonder why.

kriss do not get me started on him partronising would be a complement for him when i speak of him

lol

LOL yes we had better not talk about Kris, swear words a gogo.

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Originally posted by MoFo:
YES YES I KNOW ALL THAT BUT DOES HE HAVE TO WWWWHHHIIINNE EVERYTHING!!!??!!

And no I didnt say that in a whiney voice.

I know his voice is annoying sometimes - seems mostly when he's feeling a bit stressed which usually is when he's trying to have a reasonble conversation with people who clearly despise him.

Thing is, some people with dyslexia can have speech problems. It's quite common for those so affected to speak slowly or haltingly particularly if they're uncomfortable or feeling stressed. It's a very complex neurological condition and is not just about reading skills. When Freddie is relaxed his voice is more normal. Sadly he doesn't get many relaxed moments in the house having been under the threat of eviction for 4 weeks and a barage of abuse from Team Lisa.

hear hear.

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Originally posted by MoFo:
YES YES I KNOW ALL THAT BUT DOES HE HAVE TO WWWWHHHIIINNE EVERYTHING!!!??!!

And no I didnt say that in a whiney voice.

I know his voice is annoying sometimes - seems mostly when he's feeling a bit stressed which usually is when he's trying to have a reasonble conversation with people who clearly despise him.

Thing is, some people with dyslexia can have speech problems. It's quite common for those so affected to speak slowly or haltingly particularly if they're uncomfortable or feeling stressed. It's a very complex neurological condition and is not just about reading skills. When Freddie is relaxed his voice is more normal. Sadly he doesn't get many relaxed moments in the house having been under the threat of eviction for 4 weeks and a barage of abuse from Team Lisa.

well said amelie

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Originally posted by MoFo:
Christ why cant he talk....just properly talk words? Why does he have to wwwhhhiiinnneeee every word.

I get he is trying to portray himself to be all reasonable and earnest....but he IS playing the victim card. Everything he says is totally designed to show himself as the poor hard done by.

Dont get me wrong, I do think he is being picked on in there - but I also think he is relishing it and knows exactly what he is doing.

BUT STOP WITH THE SLAPPABLE VOICE MAN!!!!

It does grate on me how his sentances always have to go up a notch at the end! But he is getting picked on! Thing is he DOES come across as patronising. His voice is patronising a lot of the time!

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
It's not his accent or enunciation that annoy me at all, it's the way he speaks in that whiney, apologetic.'poor misunderstood me' manner at times. He is hard done by in there, no doubt about that, but beggining to think he's sussed out that people on the outside feel sorry for him for being picked on and he's now playing it for all it's worth

That's pretty much what I thinking tonight!

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I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?

I do not hate freddie but i will post even if it is my favourite housemate if i think imo they are doing something i dont like

I like him want him to outstay the lisa gang no doubt about it

I still say whether you know it or not you slightly have a problem with the way he talks because he's posh, I dont think for one second if he had a cockney accent and "talked down to people" that this thread or your comments would have ever have been made.

Then I think that says more about YOU. Seriously, why attack people who are also on his side but just seeing it a different way?

If you really were on his side, you wouldn't be picking on such a flimsy reason as a perceived whiney voice. Why don't you complain about Lisa awful voice or Karly's which really grate.

Probably cos I cant stand Lisa or Karly anyway so anything they do that annoys just feeds my fury nicely.

I AM cheering him on from the sidelines but oooooh when he starts whining I get all GAAAAAAAAHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOO. BECAUSE I am on his side and want to like him it grates more maybe, I dont know.

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It's not his accent or enunciation that annoy me at all, it's the way he speaks in that whiney, apologetic.'poor misunderstood me' manner at times. He is hard done by in there, no doubt about that, but beggining to think he's sussed out that people on the outside feel sorry for him for being picked on and he's now playing it for all it's worth

That's pretty much what I thinking tonight!

Just wish he'd get some sometimes too- one can be assertive without being agressive and nasty.

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I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?

I do not hate freddie but i will post even if it is my favourite housemate if i think imo they are doing something i dont like

I like him want him to outstay the lisa gang no doubt about it

I still say whether you know it or not you slightly have a problem with the way he talks because he's posh, I dont think for one second if he had a cockney accent and "talked down to people" that this thread or your comments would have ever have been made.

no i do not care what accent he has i do not like people who patronise and in tonights show,he was ott in his tone imo and i cannot understand why anyone think it is anything to do with any other accent if people think that so be it i am not going to argue as long as i know what i truly mean myself that will do.

I like marcus want him to be in last three but he can be a complete and utter twat at times i am not going to be a fool to think any of them are perfect even if he was marcus with less hair from the north pole i would still find him a twat dosnt matter to me

Well I dont see this patronising thing, I find Kris far worse, but no one mentions that, I wonder why.

kriss do not get me started on him partronising would be a complement for him when i speak of him

lol

LOL yes we had better not talk about Kris, swear words a gogo.

i just looked at your signature lol and we support the same people

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It's not his accent or enunciation that annoy me at all, it's the way he speaks in that whiney, apologetic.'poor misunderstood me' manner at times. He is hard done by in there, no doubt about that, but beggining to think he's sussed out that people on the outside feel sorry for him for being picked on and he's now playing it for all it's worth

That's pretty much what I thinking tonight!

Just wish he'd get some sometimes too- one can be assertive without being agressive and nasty.

He's always being assertive.

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I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?

I do not hate freddie but i will post even if it is my favourite housemate if i think imo they are doing something i dont like

I like him want him to outstay the lisa gang no doubt about it

I still say whether you know it or not you slightly have a problem with the way he talks because he's posh, I dont think for one second if he had a cockney accent and "talked down to people" that this thread or your comments would have ever have been made.

no i do not care what accent he has i do not like people who patronise and in tonights show,he was ott in his tone imo and i cannot understand why anyone think it is anything to do with any other accent if people think that so be it i am not going to argue as long as i know what i truly mean myself that will do.

I like marcus want him to be in last three but he can be a complete and utter twat at times i am not going to be a fool to think any of them are perfect even if he was marcus with less hair from the north pole i would still find him a twat dosnt matter to me

Well I dont see this patronising thing, I find Kris far worse, but no one mentions that, I wonder why.

kriss do not get me started on him partronising would be a complement for him when i speak of him

lol

LOL yes we had better not talk about Kris, swear words a gogo.

i just looked at your signature lol and we support the same people

LOL

I agree freddie bores the life out of me

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Well I dont see this patronising thing, I find Kris far worse, but no one mentions that, I wonder why.

You are joking This place is full of anti- Krap Kris posts...and rightly so

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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
It's not his accent or enunciation that annoy me at all, it's the way he speaks in that whiney, apologetic.'poor misunderstood me' manner at times. He is hard done by in there, no doubt about that, but beggining to think he's sussed out that people on the outside feel sorry for him for being picked on and he's now playing it for all it's worth

That's pretty much what I thinking tonight!

me too

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It's not his accent or enunciation that annoy me at all, it's the way he speaks in that whiney, apologetic.'poor misunderstood me' manner at times. He is hard done by in there, no doubt about that, but beggining to think he's sussed out that people on the outside feel sorry for him for being picked on and he's now playing it for all it's worth

That's pretty much what I thinking tonight!

Just wish he'd get some sometimes too- one can be assertive without being agressive and nasty.

He's always being assertive.

Well,'er kind of, that's my point, I think he does so in a kind of: 'sorry but'/'poor me' way, so it ends up not being assertive at all

Is it whiney?
It doesn`t sound whiney to my ear.
But then some people like the music of Beethoven while others like Duffy.
If I was really pressed I could say that all the citizens of the city of _________ sound whiney to me.
If that is his voice he is unlikely to change it after 20-odd years especially to be in Big Brother.
His voice doesn`t bother me at all.

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Is it whiney?
It doesn`t sound whiney to my ear.
But then some people like the music of Beethoven while others like Duffy.
If I was really pressed I could say that all the citizens of the city of _________ sound whiney to me.
If that is his voice he is unlikely to change it after 20-odd years especially to be in Big Brother.
His voice doesn`t bother me at all.

A number of other HM's voices annoy me far, far more.

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YES YES I KNOW ALL THAT BUT DOES HE HAVE TO WWWWHHHIIINNE EVERYTHING!!!??!!

And no I didnt say that in a whiney voice.

I've read on a different thread that it's quite common with dyslexics - I can't remember who said it though :/

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It's not his accent or enunciation that annoy me at all, it's the way he speaks in that whiney, apologetic.'poor misunderstood me' manner at times. He is hard done by in there, no doubt about that, but beggining to think he's sussed out that people on the outside feel sorry for him for being picked on and he's now playing it for all it's worth

That's pretty much what I thinking tonight!

Just wish he'd get some sometimes too- one can be assertive without being agressive and nasty.

He's always being assertive.

Well,'er kind of, that's my point, I think he does so in a kind of: 'sorry but'/'poor me' way, so it ends up not being assertive at all

I just think he's too polite in that situation and with those people, I'd have told them all to F*** off by now.

But I dont thik he's doing a poor me thing, but thats just my opinion.

If he was he would have been into thr DR to do the dying swan act, and he hasn't.

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Originally posted by MoFo:
YES YES I KNOW ALL THAT BUT DOES HE HAVE TO WWWWHHHIIINNE EVERYTHING!!!??!!

And no I didnt say that in a whiney voice.

I've read on a different thread that it's quite common with dyslexics - I can't remember who said it though :/

I'll have to read up on that - my mate is dyslexic....but I havent noticed her ever whine!! Apart from that I must admit I have no experience!

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I disagree with you totally Mofo. The people in the house are VILE to Freddie If I was him I would leave this weekend, if I wasn't evicted this friday. No matter what Freddie does or doesn't do; they are vile to him.

Freddie is playing the game as much as the others are. He is playing the exact opposite game to the others. In fact IMO he's the biggest game player. All he needs to do is give them a right good mouthful and walk away but that isn't the game he is playing as he is definitely playing the victim. I can't stand him and I can't stand the other gang either. They're all a waste of space.

i really keep reading this as you want to punch him in his willy

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i really keep reading this as you want to punch him in his willy

That would make anybody WHINNNNNNNNNE

i don't get why people like freddie so much.. its like everyones under his spell. i personally cannot stand him one bit and feel sorry for every single housemate in there because once they all start on him even if it is his fault then they are all bashed and hated. one thing i don't get is that how comes freddie is loved and srees hated when they both annoy the other housemates... its because sree annoys freddie as well.

i have realsied that freddie fans seem to hate the housemates that freddie hates himself. i did like freddie before and i did want him to win but after watching tonights HL i am convinced that freddie is the one with the biggest gameplan and not lisa. lisa is not twofaced and if she dislikes someone then she obviously makes it clear to them, much like most of the public themselves. i don't get why they are being hated for being themselves.

the other housemates are disliked because they nominate freddie week after week so everyone keep him in to annoy everyone. well i for one would like to keep sree in to annoy noirin and marcus and deffinately freddie. i would love to see the look on his face if sree stays. its all getting to his head and its getting bigger and bigger. sree is my favourite HM because he makes me laugh hes good tv and yes he is sleezy but i luv him for him, but why don't people feel sorry for him when he gets bullied and constantly rejected and picked on. its always freddie.

and also in tonights show i felt more sorry for kris karly and rodrigo than i did for freddie. i understand why kris finds freddie so annoying and if freddie told me that i am being influenced by others then i would walk out on him. i strongly feel that the others are not indimidated by lisa but seriously do have their personal reasons of disliking freddie, but that doesn't go through that halfwits head does it. everything that he says about lisa is all about himself. hes influencing siavash marcus noirin. he gives his lectures about how he thinks th HMs are wolves and sheeps and how lisa has the biggest gameplan. hes going around telling evryone and making them consider that maybe it is the truth which i feel is not. I feel that he has influenced siavash. and the way he over analyses things is deffinatley incorrect.

if the housemates were never in big brother and were the viewers instead then i feel that they would have been freddie supporters but watching soemone and living with someone are two completely different things and if you guys were in there with him then you would have hated him to.

seriously viewers because of this spell that freddie has casted on you we are already losing the big characters in the house. sophia, cairon, angel and sree in my view are wayyy bigger characters than freddie and this years series will go down the toilet if he continues to stay in. freddies character is slowly unveiling and you guys will surely see his true self.

now that sree's going to go this week, im rooting for charlie to win! he has the biggest personality (which is no surprise as most of the gay HMs seem to) and i don't care what anyone says but i feel that charlie is really being himself in the house and he understands that he is on a reality show that is going down hill year after year and needs to entertaing so BB does not get boring. so he is not being fake he is just entertaining.

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i don't get why people like freddie so much.. its like everyones under his spell. i personally cannot stand him one bit and feel sorry for every single housemate in there because once they all start on him even if it is his fault then they are all bashed and hated. one thing i don't get is that how comes freddie is loved and srees hated when they both annoy the other housemates... its because sree annoys freddie as well.

i have realsied that freddie fans seem to hate the housemates that freddie hates himself. i did like freddie before and i did want him to win but after watching tonights HL i am convinced that freddie is the one with the biggest gameplan and not lisa. lisa is not twofaced and if she dislikes someone then she obviously makes it clear to them, much like most of the public themselves. i don't get why they are being hated for being themselves.

the other housemates are disliked because they nominate freddie week after week so everyone keep him in to annoy everyone. well i for one would like to keep sree in to annoy noirin and marcus and deffinately freddie. i would love to see the look on his face if sree stays. its all getting to his head and its getting bigger and bigger. sree is my favourite HM because he makes me laugh hes good tv and yes he is sleezy but i luv him, but why don't people feel sorry for him when he gets bullied and constantly rejected and picked on. its always freddie.

and also in tonights show i felt more sorry for kris karly and rodrigo than i did for freddie. i understand why kris finds freddie so annoying and if freddie told me that i am being influenced by others then i would walk out on him. i strongly feel that the others are not indimidated by lisa but seriously do have their personal reasons of disliking freddie, but that doesn't go through that halfwits head does it. everything that he says about lisa is all about himself. hes influencing siavash marcus noirin. he gives his lectures about how he thinks th HMs are wolves and sheeps and how lisa has the biggest gameplan. hes going around telling evryone and making them consider that maybe it is the truth which i feel is not. I feel that he has influenced siavash. and the way he over analyses things.

if the housemates were never in big brother and were the viewers instead then i feel that they would have been freddie supporters but watching soemone and living with someone are two completely different things and if you guys were in there with him then you would have hated him to.

seriously viewers because of this spell that freddie has casted on you we are already losing the big characters in the house. sophia, cairon, angel and sree in my view are wayyy bigger characters than freddie and this years series will go down the toilet if he continues to stay in. freddies character is slowly unveiling and you guys will surely see his true self.

now that sree's going to go this week, im rooting for charlie to win!

OK.

That is the way he talks, get over it!

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Originally posted by taz-mania:
i don't get why people like freddie so much..
now that sree's going to go this week, im rooting for charlie to win!

Blimey, that was a very long first post! Welcome to the forum

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Just properly talk words.....?

Freddie is articulate and measured in his responses....I certainly don't hear any whining when he talks.

In fact I think Freddie has a lovely speaking voice which is a pleasure to listen to. I also think that while he understands the fundamental dynamics of the group he is genuinely perplexed by the degree of scapegoating being directed at him.

Excellent post.

I stopped watching BB last night Freddy has turned into a whiney cocky bore who thinks he is always right and he is not

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I stopped watching BB last night Freddy has turned into a whiney cocky bore who thinks he is always right and he is not

Margy you are so right

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I stopped watching BB last night Freddy has turned into a whiney cocky bore who thinks he is always right and he is not

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i don't get why people like freddie so much..
now that sree's going to go this week, im rooting for charlie to win!

Blimey, that was a very long first post! Welcome to the forum

lol thank you... i'm really sorry its just that all the forums i go to are being taken over by freddie and it really starting to annoy me. anyway thanx!!!

Hello Taz, welcome to the forum

Just here to say tho MoFo, yes I want to kill Freddie everytime he utters anything. It's not a class thing, it's a twat thing.

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i don't get why people like freddie so much..
now that sree's going to go this week, im rooting for charlie to win!

Blimey, that was a very long first post! Welcome to the forum

lol thank you... i'm really sorry its just that all the forums i go to are being taken over by freddie and it really starting to annoy me. anyway thanx!!!

You're welcome. Didn't agree with everything you said, but did some of it. Anyway, glad you've got it off your chest

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Hello Taz, welcome to the forum

Just here to say tho MoFo, yes I want to kill Freddie everytime he utters anything. It's not a class thing, it's a twat thing.

lol fanx fracas.. if you don't mind i'd like to join you destroy that twat

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i don't get why people like freddie so much..
now that sree's going to go this week, im rooting for charlie to win!

Blimey, that was a very long first post! Welcome to the forum

lol thank you... i'm really sorry its just that all the forums i go to are being taken over by freddie and it really starting to annoy me. anyway thanx!!!

You're welcome. Didn't agree with everything you said, but did some of it. Anyway, glad you've got it off your chest

ahh its alright everyones entitled to their own opinions right?

Welcome to the forum taz-mania. I agree with a lot of what you said.

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ahh its alright everyones entitled to their own opinions right?

Absobloodylutely, that's what this place is all about....whole load of different opinions on here, that's what makes it fun/interesting heated Hope you like it here...I'm off to bed, maybe see you again some time?

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lol fanx fracas.. if you don't mind i'd like to join you destroy that twat

I await his demise with keen anticipation A wanky way of saying I look forward to it

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lol fanx fracas.. if you don't mind i'd like to join you destroy that twat

I await his demise with keen anticipation A wanky way of saying I look forward to it

LMAO!!! cool