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Christ why cant he talk....just properly talk words? Why does he have to wwwhhhiiinnneeee every word.

I get he is trying to portray himself to be all reasonable and earnest....but he IS playing the victim card. Everything he says is totally designed to show himself as the poor hard done by.

Dont get me wrong, I do think he is being picked on in there - but I also think he is relishing it and knows exactly what he is doing.

BUT STOP WITH THE SLAPPABLE VOICE MAN!!!!

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Just properly talk words.....?

Freddie is articulate and measured in his responses....I certainly don't hear any whining when he talks.

In fact I think Freddie has a lovely speaking voice which is a pleasure to listen to. I also think that while he understands the fundamental dynamics of the group he is genuinely perplexed by the degree of scapegoating being directed at him.
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Originally posted by MoFo:
Christ why cant he talk....just properly talk words? Why does he have to wwwhhhiiinnneeee every word.

I get he is trying to portray himself to be all reasonable and earnest....but he IS playing the victim card. Everything he says is totally designed to show himself as the poor hard done by.

Dont get me wrong, I do think he is being picked on in there - but I also think he is relishing it and knows exactly what he is doing.

BUT STOP WITH THE SLAPPABLE VOICE MAN!!!!


He would irritate you and he does imo patronise people

not taking away how nasty there are to him because they are

but watching tonight i agree he is playing the victim at times

and they are like lambs to the slaughter with him because he is a clever guy and he knows it makes them look worse than they already do

if that is possible


They are nasty to him and he was in the wrong there imo and he did turn all poor me
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Originally posted by innais:
Just properly talk words.....?

Freddie is articulate and measured in his responses....I certainly don't hear any whining when he talks.

In fact I think Freddie has a lovely speaking voice which is a pleasure to listen to. I also think that while he understands the fundamental dynamics of the group he is genuinely perplexed by the degree of scapegoating being directed at him.


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Liverpoollass
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Originally posted by cup:

He would irritate you and he does imo patronise people

not taking away how nasty there are to him because they are

but watching tonight i agree he is playing the victim at times

and they are like lambs to the slaughter with him because he is a clever guy and he knows it makes them look worse than they already do

if that is possible


They are nasty to him and he was in the wrong there imo and he did turn all poor me
YAAAY CUP, you get me!!! THATS what I am seeing!!

And fair play to him and all that....just less whinily so PLEASE!!! Big Grin
MoFo
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Originally posted by storm:
I disagree with you totally Mofo. The people in the house are VILE to Freddie Mad If I was him I would leave this weekend, if I wasn't evicted this friday. No matter what Freddie does or doesn't do; they are vile to him.
But I agree with you....how does that work then? I DO agree they are awful to him - he is obviously a very strong person...they mistake his clever manipulation of their actions for weakness though and that gives him more strength.
MoFo
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Originally posted by MoFo:
Christ why cant he talk....just properly talk words? Why does he have to wwwhhhiiinnneeee every word.

I get he is trying to portray himself to be all reasonable and earnest....but he IS playing the victim card. Everything he says is totally designed to show himself as the poor hard done by.

Dont get me wrong, I do think he is being picked on in there - but I also think he is relishing it and knows exactly what he is doing.

BUT STOP WITH THE SLAPPABLE VOICE MAN!!!!

Perhaps if he had a nice working class accent you would be happy with him then. Smiler

EVIL POSH BOY. Wink
Videostar
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Originally posted by MoFo:
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Originally posted by cup:

He would irritate you and he does imo patronise people

not taking away how nasty there are to him because they are

but watching tonight i agree he is playing the victim at times

and they are like lambs to the slaughter with him because he is a clever guy and he knows it makes them look worse than they already do

if that is possible


They are nasty to him and he was in the wrong there imo and he did turn all poor me
YAAAY CUP, you get me!!! THATS what I am seeing!!

And fair play to him and all that....just less whinily so PLEASE!!! Big Grin


I have no doubt i want him to outstay them and i have felt sorry for him the way they have behaved at times is sickening

but i have started to noticed stuff that like anyother housemate if i dont like it even if it someone i like i feel i have to say it

Freddie needs to ignore the bints because people will start to get sick of him and it will be his downfall instead of theirs
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Originally posted by jamieboy:
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Originally posted by MoFo:
YES YES I KNOW ALL THAT BUT DOES HE HAVE TO WWWWHHHIIINNE EVERYTHING!!!??!!

And no I didnt say that in a whiney voice. Ninja


i get wot u mean even posh ppl can talk in a normal voice
Phew, thanks Jamie. It doesnt mean I am not on his side like....it IS ok to criticise a hm you support innit!! Wink Big Grin
MoFo
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Originally posted by ~hoochie~:
Smiler I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then Thumbs Up

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?
Videostar
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MoFo:
Christ why cant he talk....just properly talk words? Why does he have to wwwhhhiiinnneeee every word.

I get he is trying to portray himself to be all reasonable and earnest....but he IS playing the victim card. Everything he says is totally designed to show himself as the poor hard done by.

Dont get me wrong, I do think he is being picked on in there - but I also think he is relishing it and knows exactly what he is doing.

BUT STOP WITH THE SLAPPABLE VOICE MAN!!!!

Perhaps if he had a nice working class accent you would be happy with him then. Smiler

EVIL POSH BOY. Wink
What??? Confused
You think people with 'working class' accents dont whine sometimes?

My gawd, talk about missing the point.
MoFo
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Originally posted by ~hoochie~:
Smiler I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then Thumbs Up


I wish he would go back to innocent freddie imo of late he is acting up
and i dont want that to happen to him

victor brilliant even though he didnt seem to realise we could hear his plan in diary room Laugh
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Originally posted by MoFo:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MoFo:
Christ why cant he talk....just properly talk words? Why does he have to wwwhhhiiinnneeee every word.

I get he is trying to portray himself to be all reasonable and earnest....but he IS playing the victim card. Everything he says is totally designed to show himself as the poor hard done by.

Dont get me wrong, I do think he is being picked on in there - but I also think he is relishing it and knows exactly what he is doing.

BUT STOP WITH THE SLAPPABLE VOICE MAN!!!!

Perhaps if he had a nice working class accent you would be happy with him then. Smiler

EVIL POSH BOY. Wink
What??? Confused
You think 'working class' accents dont whine?

My gawd, talk about missing the point.


Im getting your point perfectly, you came straight out of the Lisa school of disliking posh people.
Videostar
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by ~hoochie~:
Smiler I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then Thumbs Up

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?
I do not hate freddie but i will post even if it is my favourite housemate if i think imo they are doing something i dont like

I like him want him to outstay the lisa gang no doubt about it
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Originally posted by Suzy:
I think he is under attack for everything he says ,so he speaks in a calm measured way to try and get his point across.
I do the same thing when I am not relaxed with people.
I don't agree that he has a whiny voice.
I admire his self control.


The crazy thing is that he hasn't changed one little bit, this is how he talks, why should he change to suit dummy working class idiots.?
Videostar
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MoFo:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MoFo:
Christ why cant he talk....just properly talk words? Why does he have to wwwhhhiiinnneeee every word.

I get he is trying to portray himself to be all reasonable and earnest....but he IS playing the victim card. Everything he says is totally designed to show himself as the poor hard done by.

Dont get me wrong, I do think he is being picked on in there - but I also think he is relishing it and knows exactly what he is doing.

BUT STOP WITH THE SLAPPABLE VOICE MAN!!!!

Perhaps if he had a nice working class accent you would be happy with him then. Smiler

EVIL POSH BOY. Wink
What??? Confused
You think 'working class' accents dont whine?

My gawd, talk about missing the point.


Im getting your point perfectly, you came straight out of the Lisa school of disliking posh people.
Laugh Where do you get that from? I am getting aggrieved with the whining not thelack of dropped aitches.

Dont try and put words into my mouth...no matter how well spoken or common you assume mine are.

It has nothing to do with class...more tone and inflection.
MoFo
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by ~hoochie~:
Smiler I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then Thumbs Up

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?
I do not hate freddie but i will post even if it is my favourite housemate if i think imo they are doing something i dont like

I like him want him to outstay the lisa gang no doubt about it


I still say whether you know it or not you slightly have a problem with the way he talks because he's posh, I dont think for one second if he had a cockney accent and "talked down to people" that this thread or your comments would have ever have been made.
Videostar
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Originally posted by innais:
Just properly talk words.....?

Freddie is articulate and measured in his responses....I certainly don't hear any whining when he talks.

In fact I think Freddie has a lovely speaking voice which is a pleasure to listen to. I also think that while he understands the fundamental dynamics of the group he is genuinely perplexed by the degree of scapegoating being directed at him.

Spot on and he's certainly not 'playing' the victim, he is the victim. He's only trying to stand up for himself. Just because he doesn't eff and blind at them, does not mean he's cherishing being the victim.
cologne 1
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Originally posted by MoFo:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MoFo:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by MoFo:
Christ why cant he talk....just properly talk words? Why does he have to wwwhhhiiinnneeee every word.

I get he is trying to portray himself to be all reasonable and earnest....but he IS playing the victim card. Everything he says is totally designed to show himself as the poor hard done by.

Dont get me wrong, I do think he is being picked on in there - but I also think he is relishing it and knows exactly what he is doing.

BUT STOP WITH THE SLAPPABLE VOICE MAN!!!!

Perhaps if he had a nice working class accent you would be happy with him then. Smiler

EVIL POSH BOY. Wink
What??? Confused
You think 'working class' accents dont whine?

My gawd, talk about missing the point.


Im getting your point perfectly, you came straight out of the Lisa school of disliking posh people.
Laugh Where do you get that from? I am getting aggrieved with the whining not thelack of dropped aitches.

Dont try and put words into my mouth...no matter how well spoken or common you assume mine are.

It has nothing to do with class...more tone and inflection.


Oh well, he should just change how he talks just to please you. Roll Eyes
Videostar
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by ~hoochie~:
Smiler I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then Thumbs Up

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?
I do not hate freddie but i will post even if it is my favourite housemate if i think imo they are doing something i dont like

I like him want him to outstay the lisa gang no doubt about it


I still say whether you know it or not you slightly have a problem with the way he talks because he's posh, I dont think for one second if he had a cockney accent and "talked down to people" that this thread or your comments would have ever have been made.
Then I think that says more about YOU. Seriously, why attack people who are also on his side but just seeing it a different way?
MoFo
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by ~hoochie~:
Smiler I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then Thumbs Up

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?
I do not hate freddie but i will post even if it is my favourite housemate if i think imo they are doing something i dont like

I like him want him to outstay the lisa gang no doubt about it


I still say whether you know it or not you slightly have a problem with the way he talks because he's posh, I dont think for one second if he had a cockney accent and "talked down to people" that this thread or your comments would have ever have been made.


no i do not care what accent he has i do not like people who patronise and in tonights show,he was ott in his tone imo and i cannot understand why anyone think it is anything to do with any other accent if people think that so be it i am not going to argue as long as i know what i truly mean myself that will do.

I like marcus want him to be in last three but he can be a complete and utter twat at times i am not going to be a fool to think any of them are perfect even if he was marcus with less hair from the north pole i would still find him a twat dosnt matter to me
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Originally posted by MoFo:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by ~hoochie~:
Smiler I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then Thumbs Up

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?
I do not hate freddie but i will post even if it is my favourite housemate if i think imo they are doing something i dont like

I like him want him to outstay the lisa gang no doubt about it


I still say whether you know it or not you slightly have a problem with the way he talks because he's posh, I dont think for one second if he had a cockney accent and "talked down to people" that this thread or your comments would have ever have been made.
Then I think that says more about YOU. Seriously, why attack people who are also on his side but just seeing it a different way?


You want to punch him in his whiny voice remember? is that being on his side. lol


Thats hardly being on his side.

If you like him or not is fair enough but FFS dont attack the guy for how he talks.
Videostar
It's not his accent or enunciation that annoy me at all, it's the way he speaks in that whiney, apologetic.'poor misunderstood me' manner at times. He is hard done by in there, no doubt about that, but beggining to think he's sussed out that people on the outside feel sorry for him for being picked on and he's now playing it for all it's worth
FM
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Originally posted by MoFo:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by ~hoochie~:
Smiler I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then Thumbs Up

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?
I do not hate freddie but i will post even if it is my favourite housemate if i think imo they are doing something i dont like

I like him want him to outstay the lisa gang no doubt about it


I still say whether you know it or not you slightly have a problem with the way he talks because he's posh, I dont think for one second if he had a cockney accent and "talked down to people" that this thread or your comments would have ever have been made.
Then I think that says more about YOU. Seriously, why attack people who are also on his side but just seeing it a different way?

If you really were on his side, you wouldn't be picking on such a flimsy reason as a perceived whiney voice. Why don't you complain about Lisa awful voice or Karly's which really grate.
cologne 1
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Originally posted by MoFo:
BUT STOP WITH THE SLAPPABLE VOICE MAN!!!!


Sophie....Speak up..say something interesting..stop squeezing your extentions...

Karly.....Stop getting annoyed with Freddie cos you feel you have 'back up', just get annoyed with him when he annoys you.

Noirin....Now Srees lost interest we did'nt see you.

Lisa....Roll another one and continue to live in 'Lisas World'.

Kris....Can't be bothered to discuss you.

........
Syd
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by ~hoochie~:
Smiler I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then Thumbs Up

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?
I do not hate freddie but i will post even if it is my favourite housemate if i think imo they are doing something i dont like

I like him want him to outstay the lisa gang no doubt about it


I still say whether you know it or not you slightly have a problem with the way he talks because he's posh, I dont think for one second if he had a cockney accent and "talked down to people" that this thread or your comments would have ever have been made.


no i do not care what accent he has i do not like people who patronise and in tonights show,he was ott in his tone imo and i cannot understand why anyone think it is anything to do with any other accent if people think that so be it i am not going to argue as long as i know what i truly mean myself that will do.

I like marcus want him to be in last three but he can be a complete and utter twat at times i am not going to be a fool to think any of them are perfect even if he was marcus with less hair from the north pole i would still find him a twat dosnt matter to me


Well I dont see this patronising thing, I find Kris far worse, but no one mentions that, I wonder why.
Videostar
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by cup:
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Originally posted by Videostar:
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Originally posted by ~hoochie~:
Smiler I agree with Mofo and cup - i like a gameplayer and he's good .... but he's a fool if he thinks he can play with the GBP for much longer - he should be straight with us and own up to it in the Diary Room like Victor did ... I'd be right behind him then Thumbs Up

He's not playing a game, dont be influenced by the haters of Freddie.

He's clearly being picked on in that house, how is he not meant to look like the victim of nasty people.?
I do not hate freddie but i will post even if it is my favourite housemate if i think imo they are doing something i dont like

I like him want him to outstay the lisa gang no doubt about it


I still say whether you know it or not you slightly have a problem with the way he talks because he's posh, I dont think for one second if he had a cockney accent and "talked down to people" that this thread or your comments would have ever have been made.


no i do not care what accent he has i do not like people who patronise and in tonights show,he was ott in his tone imo and i cannot understand why anyone think it is anything to do with any other accent if people think that so be it i am not going to argue as long as i know what i truly mean myself that will do.

I like marcus want him to be in last three but he can be a complete and utter twat at times i am not going to be a fool to think any of them are perfect even if he was marcus with less hair from the north pole i would still find him a twat dosnt matter to me


Well I dont see this patronising thing, I find Kris far worse, but no one mentions that, I wonder why.


kriss do not get me started on him partronising would be a complement for him when i speak of him

lol
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Originally posted by MoFo:
YES YES I KNOW ALL THAT BUT DOES HE HAVE TO WWWWHHHIIINNE EVERYTHING!!!??!!

And no I didnt say that in a whiney voice. Ninja


I know his voice is annoying sometimes - seems mostly when he's feeling a bit stressed which usually is when he's trying to have a reasonble conversation with people who clearly despise him.

Thing is, some people with dyslexia can have speech problems. It's quite common for those so affected to speak slowly or haltingly particularly if they're uncomfortable or feeling stressed. It's a very complex neurological condition and is not just about reading skills. When Freddie is relaxed his voice is more normal. Sadly he doesn't get many relaxed moments in the house having been under the threat of eviction for 4 weeks and a barage of abuse from Team Lisa.
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