exactly Darlo

thats all very true, but if BB dont put the whole lot up, there is a possibility one might win

What they dont realise is that both guys are really popular its funny that they havent even considered that may be possible

freddy is gonna love being out

bea def wont be lovin it when shes out

i dont think bea will be up this week
and it sucks

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Originally posted by mandala:
i dont think bea will be up this week
and it sucks

It's up to Mona Lisa Wallace .

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

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Originally posted by mandala:
i dont think bea will be up this week
and it sucks

It's up to Mona Lisa Wallace .

I fully expect Bea to be up this week and I think Lisa will be the first to nom her because she knows she is a nasty piece of work. Bea may have slayed Freddie but I think Lisa and co will slay Bea.

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Originally posted by longcat:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

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Originally posted by mandala:
i dont think bea will be up this week
and it sucks

It's up to Mona Lisa Wallace .

I fully expect Bea to be up this week and I think Lisa will be the first to nom her because she knows she is a nasty piece of work. Bea may have slayed Freddie but I think Lisa and co will slay Bea.

, I think Lisa is just using Bea to her advantage and won't hesitate in backstabbing her as she can't stand her really.

True, darlo
They're so stupid, they don't realise they are falling into exactly the same trap as the one they're gloating about Freddie getting caught in. Except we never liked them, anyway!

Lisa and Bea will swan through to the final so I don't see how they are orchestrating their own downfall. Sure they won't actually win, but they'll be there until the very end.

If BB was to meddle with the noms or put them all up this week, I would actually break with my pledge not to vote this year due to loss of live feed.

And the person I would vote for would be Charlie! It will probably be the only chance we would have to get him out, and I hope if that was the case, loads of other people would see this and vote for him to leave. Get him out asap is what I say.

Bea and Lisa are disliked by so many both on here and in the wider world, that they will soon be gone, but Charlie seems to be loved by the wider public and BB themselves.

Can't see BB putting them all up though.

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Originally posted by CaptVimes:
What they dont realise is that both guys are really popular its funny that they havent even considered that may be possible

Yeh, Sophie said to Marcus that he might have stayed because he just wasn't as unpopular as Freddie. Marcus replied that Freddie had been a favourite so couldn't be really unpopular.

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Originally posted by CaptVimes:
What they dont realise is that both guys are really popular its funny that they havent even considered that may be possible

I agree Captain, but I doubt that has crossed their minds

Freddies's downfall was ulimately Freddie. It's very easy to point fingers at other HMs.. but it was Freddie who changed.

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Originally posted by tupps:
Freddies's downfall was ulimately Freddie. It's very easy to point fingers at other HMs.. but it was Freddie who changed.

Try telling tht to the Freddie fans, tupps!

They're blind, as well as deaf!

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Originally posted by Barolo:

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Originally posted by tupps:
Freddies's downfall was ulimately Freddie. It's very easy to point fingers at other HMs.. but it was Freddie who changed.

Try telling tht to the Freddie fans, tupps!

They're blind, as well as deaf!

I'd didn't see anyone's hand up his arse operating him so responsibility for his actions/reactions are ultimately at his door. Same with any HM.

Freddie's downfall was Bea, she stripped him naked of all self respect, his esteem and basically f*cked with his head.

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Originally posted by tupps:
Freddies's downfall was ulimately Freddie. It's very easy to point fingers at other HMs.. but it was Freddie who changed.

I have to agree Tupps. There was a time when I think he had it in the bag, then he really let himself down by getting too smug and trying to play Lisa etc at their own game.

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Originally posted by pussycatj:
Freddie's downfall was Bea, she stripped him naked of all self respect, his esteem and basically f*cked with his head.

That's true enough pussycatj, but he has to take reponsibilty for allowing her to do just that. It's his own fault!

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Originally posted by Barolo:

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Originally posted by pussycatj:
Freddie's downfall was Bea, she stripped him naked of all self respect, his esteem and basically f*cked with his head.

That's true enough pussycatj, but he has to take reponsibilty for allowing her to do just that. It's his own fault!

I honestly don't think he was strong enough, he had been abused, and we can't really summise unless you have been in a similar situation. I have, and believe me you don't know who you are towards the end. I'm just happy he is now with he friends and family and hopefully find his true self again (however strange we think he is).

Freddie's downfall was his over-confidence...... I still think he was a pretty decent guy who just blew his fuse while in there....

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Originally posted by pussycatj:

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Originally posted by Barolo:

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Originally posted by pussycatj:
Freddie's downfall was Bea, she stripped him naked of all self respect, his esteem and basically f*cked with his head.

That's true enough pussycatj, but he has to take reponsibilty for allowing her to do just that. It's his own fault!

I honestly don't think he was strong enough, he had been abused, and we can't really summise unless you have been in a similar situation. I have, and believe me you don't know who you are towards the end. I'm just happy he is now with he friends and family and hopefully find his true self again (however strange we think he is).

Yes, I think you're right. I would never have let Bea do to me what she did to Freddie, but I am a much stronger-willed person.

I didn't like Freddie and I'm glad he was evicted, but I certainly did not like the systematic bullying that Bea subjected him to. She seemed to set out to find his weak point and then exploit it mercilessly - for that she deserves everything she gets when she gets out!

IMO, Freddie = an example of 'hubris'.