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Originally posted by scatterby:
Hi everybody

Good points Twee - I haven't forgotten how absolutely awful they were to Freddie for those first few weeks - it was disgusting

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by scatterby:
Hi everybody

Good points Twee - I haven't forgotten how absolutely awful they were to Freddie for those first few weeks - it was disgusting

hiya young scatters xxx Yes, Freddie was ostracised like he had some sort of plague in those early days.

OT ... Did you know that our darling leader Strike has created another Sree-like thread? He changed the title of the thread three times last night, so I'm not sure what it ended up as. He commented, when I went into it, that all that was needed now was Scatters and the job would be finished ... lol. I will try and find it .....

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Originally posted by figtree:
Evening Fredsters! So good to see you are all keeping the faith!

Personally I am a bit nervous about this weeks eviction... normally I am both nervous and excited but I cannot help feeling whichever way it goes it's a bit of a downer! a damp squib really! I really do want Freddie to stay but I feel mean on account of Marcus' fans so although I am batting on Freddies team I would like to sends loads of to team Marcus!
It will probs' be 2 of the three next week also!
I really do think Marcus wants to go so maybe I shouldn't feel so bad!

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Originally posted by figtree:
Evening Fredsters! So good to see you are all keeping the faith!

Personally I am a bit nervous about this weeks eviction... normally I am both nervous and excited but I cannot help feeling whichever way it goes it's a bit of a downer! a damp squib really! I really do want Freddie to stay but I feel mean on account of Marcus' fans so although I am batting on Freddies team I would like to sends loads of to team Marcus!
It will probs' be 2 of the three next week also!
I really do think Marcus wants to go so maybe I shouldn't feel so bad!

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Originally posted by Darcyprincess:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
hiya all Freddie fans

And thank you squigg. Well, we have seen our boy ripped to bits last night and I don't want to ever see such a verbal assassination of anyone like that again. No, not even Lisa deserves something like that.

I watched the live feed on tape this morning. Listening to Bea was interesting, when she approached the delicate topic of class. It seems that Bea has more of a problem about the stately home than even Lisa has. But then that is always the same with the Middle Class isn't it? They envy the class above them for having more money, a bigger house with more bedrooms than their's, they have a much posher accent, etc.

But Freddie, being all the class-above things, also has an Oxford Degree. That is anathema to someone like Bea who can never achieve the higher echelons of the Upper Classes nor gain a Degree from one of the best Universities in the world. She may have gone to Cheltenham Ladies' College, but she has no class, and her parents have tried to buy her class by sending her to a posh school. You cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's lug. They have also failed to teach her how to speak properly to people, unlike Freddie's parents who have brought Freddie up to be a decent human being. And therein lies the secret of Freddie's classy persona. Manners do maketh the man and if you have class as well, then you have won the lottery of life.

Hi, just popped in looking for squiggle, my old friend back on channel 4!

Nice post and I have to agree with you on the nasty Bea, how she has become a turncoat and is now being a real bitch to Freddie!

But I am quite surprised that you say that Freddie has class and he has been brought up to be a decent human being, what about last week when he goaded Lisa and David and laughed in their faces and also Sunday when he told the BB dr lady to f--- off, that was not very gentlemanly of him was it? I am not a fan of Freddies nor a fan of Lisa and David but I do think that sometimes Freddie can be only seen through rose tinted glasses and is not as nice as some people think!

Not taking about from the fact that Bea is a real nasty piece of work and I always thought that she would be Freddies downfall and if not her than Marcus! Freddie seems to have been easily led by both of these two and they have most definitely not helped him. The sooner that Bea goes the better!

hi darcy. It's nice to see someone who can come into a thread, who is not a supporter, and comment about a favourite without a negative slant on the comment, and ask one of us a reasonable question. I applaud you.

You asked me why I should say that Freddie has got class and, if so, why did he say what he said to Lisa. Fair comment darcy. But I have to ask you a question about this year's BB in general. Have you watched the show from the start? When I made my comment it was made because I certainly have watched the show from day one and felt I was in a position to make a judgment on Freddie as a whole.

For five solid weeks, Freddie was subjected to the worst kind of bullying ever seen on BB. Most of that bullying was perpetrated by Lisa and her minions Karly, Kris, Charlie, Sophie, etc. The block nominations of Freddie by all of them is evidence that they wanted Freddie out or, at best, force him to leave of his own accord. In that time, his posh accent had been mocked, his singing had been mocked, his parent's stately home had been mocked .. I could go on, but you get the picture?

Why then would you think that because Freddie had gained a foothold in the social group, should he not express his frustration for those five long weeks of torture and direct that frustration to the perpetrator, in a similar format to what he suffered. I would ask you if you remember one of Freddie's eviction nights when Lisa said, in Freddie's hearing, 'I don't know why you are going (to the evictee), the wrong one is going'. I would say that what Freddie said to Lisa was justice being served and a kind of revenge, being a dish best served cold. At no time did I think that Freddie was wrong or out of order for what he said. It is not a case of rose-tinted spectacles either. It was payback time, plus VAT.

With regard to Bea, we seem to agree on her awfulness so there is no need for me to elaborate on her despicable behaviour.

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Originally posted by Darcyprincess:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by Darcyprincess:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
hiya all Freddie fans

And thank you squigg. Well, we have seen our boy ripped to bits last night and I don't want to ever see such a verbal assassination of anyone like that again. No, not even Lisa deserves something like that.

I watched the live feed on tape this morning. Listening to Bea was interesting, when she approached the delicate topic of class. It seems that Bea has more of a problem about the stately home than even Lisa has. But then that is always the same with the Middle Class isn't it? They envy the class above them for having more money, a bigger house with more bedrooms than their's, they have a much posher accent, etc.

But Freddie, being all the class-above things, also has an Oxford Degree. That is anathema to someone like Bea who can never achieve the higher echelons of the Upper Classes nor gain a Degree from one of the best Universities in the world. She may have gone to Cheltenham Ladies' College, but she has no class, and her parents have tried to buy her class by sending her to a posh school. You cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's lug. They have also failed to teach her how to speak properly to people, unlike Freddie's parents who have brought Freddie up to be a decent human being. And therein lies the secret of Freddie's classy persona. Manners do maketh the man and if you have class as well, then you have won the lottery of life.

Hi, just popped in looking for squiggle, my old friend back on channel 4!

Nice post and I have to agree with you on the nasty Bea, how she has become a turncoat and is now being a real bitch to Freddie!

But I am quite surprised that you say that Freddie has class and he has been brought up to be a decent human being, what about last week when he goaded Lisa and David and laughed in their faces and also Sunday when he told the BB dr lady to f--- off, that was not very gentlemanly of him was it? I am not a fan of Freddies nor a fan of Lisa and David but I do think that sometimes Freddie can be only seen through rose tinted glasses and is not as nice as some people think!

Not taking about from the fact that Bea is a real nasty piece of work and I always thought that she would be Freddies downfall and if not her than Marcus! Freddie seems to have been easily led by both of these two and they have most definitely not helped him. The sooner that Bea goes the better!

hi darcy. It's nice to see someone who can come into a thread, who is not a supporter, and comment about a favourite without a negative slant on the comment, and ask one of us a reasonable question. I applaud you.

You asked me why I should say that Freddie has got class and, if so, why did he say what he said to Lisa. Fair comment darcy. But I have to ask you a question about this year's BB in general. Have you watched the show from the start? When I made my comment it was made because I certainly have watched the show from day one and felt I was in a position to make a judgment on Freddie as a whole.

For five solid weeks, Freddie was subjected to the worst kind of bullying ever seen on BB. Most of that bullying was perpetrated by Lisa and her minions Karly, Kris, Charlie, Sophie, etc. The block nominations of Freddie by all of them is evidence that they wanted Freddie out or, at best, force him to leave of his own accord. In that time, his posh accent had been mocked, his singing had been mocked, his parent's stately home had been mocked .. I could go on, but you get the picture?

Why then would you think that because Freddie had gained a foothold in the social group, should he not express his frustration for those five long weeks of torture and direct that frustration to the perpetrator, in a similar format to what he suffered. I would ask you if you remember one of Freddie's eviction nights when Lisa said, in Freddie's hearing, 'I don't know why you are going (to the evictee), the wrong one is going'. I would say that what Freddie said to Lisa was justice being served and a kind of revenge, being a dish best served cold. At no time did I think that Freddie was wrong or out of order for what he said. It is not a case of rose-tinted spectacles either. It was payback time, plus VAT.

With regard to Bea, we seem to agree on her awfulness so there is no need for me to elaborate on her despicable behaviour.

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Hi there Twee Surgeion, it is very kind of you to answer my post and although I am not a fan I do feel that I should show some respect if I am going to come into the Freddie fan club post! I am sorry to say that I am not a supporter of him because there seems to be some really nice people on here and I do hope to get to know some of the new people better in the future!

I hope that I have not upset Squiggle and any other supporter by saying about the rose tinted glasses but I do see things quite differently! I know where you are coming from when you say that Lisa had been rather nasty and vindictive towards Freddie in the early weeks but as for the block voting, they had the past voting on ds today and it does appear that there was not the block voting like many first thought!

I would like to pop in and out of here from time to time and I will be respectful of the fans, but it is great chatting and I think it might be quite a good finish to the series if Freddie and Sophie are the last two in the house. But we will have to wait and see who the winner will be but for now lets hope that Bea will not be there much longer!

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Originally posted by squiggle:


Nighty night! See you all again in the morning

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Morning Fredsters

A big hug to all and especially our Freddy

My new strategy today is to ignore the Freddy haters, goaders and baiters. I was getting myself so worked up yesterday that I nearly threw the laptop out the window Half of what is written on here by some, is purely to get a rise out of the Freddy supporters - well it's not going to work on me today. Oh no Sonny Jim We should just let them get on with it - we are better than that

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Originally posted by innais:
Good morning Liverpoollass and all the other Fredsters!

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Originally posted by 15:10:
You weren't kidding, the threads are brutal.

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Originally posted by innais:
I'm truly baffled by people who think Freddie was being a "drama queen" etc. I think they must never encountered a Bea in real life. Heaven help them when they do because it's that naivety that makes them vulnerable to psychological bullies like her. Freddie has shown how strong he is by surviving the early weeks and maintaining his optimistic outlook. The fact he broke down once Bea turned her attention on him demonstrates how destructive this woman is. What some people underestimate is Bea's capacity for emotional and psychological devastation and the power that a sheer lack of conscience gives her.

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Originally posted by innais:
I'm truly baffled by people who think Freddie was being a "drama queen" etc. I think they must never encountered a Bea in real life. Heaven help them when they do because it's that naivety that makes them vulnerable to psychological bullies like her. Freddie has shown how strong he is by surviving the early weeks and maintaining his optimistic outlook. The fact he broke down once Bea turned her attention on him demonstrates how destructive this woman is. What some people underestimate is Bea's capacity for emotional and psychological devastation and the power that a sheer lack of conscience gives her.

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Originally posted by joyron:
I've just had a thought. If Marcus goes tomorrow night then Bea will say it's because he was so horrible to her and the GBP didn't like it. It won't be because we all want Freddie to stay!!

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, there are people out there in the world, who have no compassion or empathy for anyone. It speaks volumes as to the sort of people they are. Some of the stuff I have read on here about Freddy, has been truly awful. The world is full of all sorts of folk and we all have different views, outlooks and opinions. The Freddy haters on here and elsewhere, refuse to see any good in him at all. Whereas, the Freddy supporters are mature enough to know he is not perfect and has made mistakes, but we love him for all his faults.

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Originally posted by squiggle:

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Originally posted by innais:
I'm truly baffled by people who think Freddie was being a "drama queen" etc. I think they must never encountered a Bea in real life. Heaven help them when they do because it's that naivety that makes them vulnerable to psychological bullies like her. Freddie has shown how strong he is by surviving the early weeks and maintaining his optimistic outlook. The fact he broke down once Bea turned her attention on him demonstrates how destructive this woman is. What some people underestimate is Bea's capacity for emotional and psychological devastation and the power that a sheer lack of conscience gives her.

This is so true innais, did you catch that 2 part vid that was posted? In it, this was the night before Freddie broke down crying, she went on and on at him. The vid was in 2 parts, 40 mins each part and she was going on at him the whole time!

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Originally posted by Cheeky-Pixie:

I have made my feelings clear for Bea but did say in a thread yesterday to several FMs that I don't wanna fall out and respected their opinions, coz it gets so heated in here that I have seen several boppings this past few days. best to just agree to disagree, tell people they can have their views and you will have yours, and leave it at that. It's no good trying to change peoples' minds and there are a 'few' people saying stuff to deliberately wind up the Freddie fans.. most are not, but a few are...

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Serious post Freddie Fans. We know what Freddie has been through week after week in there. If he goes this Friday I feel as if its a win win situation. I would like him to stay but I would also like him to go home to his family and all of the people who love him now. And I am sure there are loads of them because he is a gentle loving soul. I have hated to see the way he has been abused in the house and on this forum. That is why I have been so proud of you dear Freddie Fans because I can honestly say that I have never seen a nasty comment made by anyone I recognise as a regular in this thread. I feel if he goes he will go with his head held high and we too as the nicest fans on the forum (just my opinion ) can also hold our heads up high. So whatever happens

And remember also that what goes around comes around and Bea and Lisa will, I am sure, have their moment in the spotlight and I am sure I will be forgiven for hoping that its slightly uncomfortable for both of them.

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Originally posted by squiggle:
Serious post Freddie Fans. We know what Freddie has been through week after week in there. If he goes this Friday I feel as if its a win win situation. I would like him to stay but I would also like him to go home to his family and all of the people who love him now. And I am sure there are loads of them because he is a gentle loving soul. I have hated to see the way he has been abused in the house and on this forum. That is why I have been so proud of you dear Freddie Fans because I can honestly say that I have never seen a nasty comment made by anyone I recognise as a regular in this thread. I feel if he goes he will go with his head held high and we too as the nicest fans on the forum (just my opinion ) can also hold our heads up high. So whatever happens

And remember also that what goes around comes around and Bea and Lisa will, I am sure, have their moment in the spotlight and I am sure I will be forgiven for hoping that its slightly uncomfortable for both of them.