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Originally posted by cup:
you are quite right about him in all you say in this post

He isnt none of those things like REX LOL

But i cannot get away sometimes the way he imo talks down

and i am never going to win on this one

But it is my humble opinion

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Originally posted by cup:

BRING BACK LIVE FEED when all esle fails call for LIVE FEED

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Originally posted by *Yogi Bear*:
i think what would annoy me about freddie (and this is actually a good trait) is that he never gets ruffled

When i am in the mood for an argument i want the other person to argue back with me.... and not in the cool way he does... i need someone to be as irrational as i am in a good old get it off my chest arguement

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Originally posted by mad4cavs:

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Originally posted by cup:

BRING BACK LIVE FEED when all esle fails call for LIVE FEED

i think he is genuine if they were fair with him i am sure he would treat them fairly
they are so rude and spiteful i am sure thats why he talks so slowly because he is making sure his meaning is not twisted as lisa takes great delight in playing that game

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Staying calm when the other person is raging or even ignoring them when they make barbed comments, is a much better way of dealing with them. Same in rl and even on forums. People make comments, they try to start arguments and sometimes they succeed. The best thing to do is to remain calm, if you want to argue back, or just ignore them. They look the daft ones then

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I think he has to speak slowly to them cos he realises the majority of them are too thick to understand a regular paced conversation.

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Originally posted by HyacinthB:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I think he has to speak slowly to them cos he realises the majority of them are too thick to understand a regular paced conversation.

That's how he's been taught to speak - slowly and to enunciate.

That's how you're taught to speak at finishing school.

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
Plus I don't think he looks down at people at all .

The way he speaks down to people at times makes me feel he does and i do think he can be patronising at times imo he isnt perfect.

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by Bethni:
I don't think you can call it talking down to people. He's been brought up and educated to speak the way he does.Should we also complain about ,say, Lisa talking like she's ashamed of where she's from. I think Freddie show's great restraint in his dealing with being sniggered at and bitched about. I'd have shown myself up by Screaming at shouting at them all by now lol.

He's a credit to his parent's wether he's from a country estate or a housing estate. The rest of them are a disgrace.

It should not matter where you are from to have manners i didnt mention that,that goes without saying

Does not change my opinion that he does patronise and talk slow and superior at times

I know someone who does this and he reminds of him.

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Originally posted by brisket:
I don`t think Freddie talks down to people, nor do I think he feels superior. If they think he sounds a bit different - you could say they all do. From different places and backgrounds.
They should be more tolerant and more accepting.
I think some of the resentment towards Freddie in the house is due to inverted snobbery.
Freddie has made conscious efforts to integrate and to encourage others to do so. Whereas some of the others have consciously kept their distance and isolated him.
Free is alright.

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Originally posted by innais:

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Originally posted by mandala:
disagree i have a relative who speaks like friendly Freddie he doesn't speak down to people its just natural for some to be eloquent and not sound like screeching Lisa

I would definitely agree with you mandala. I think Freddie may be perceived as "talking down" to people but I'm absolutely sure this is his way of talking rather than being indicative of him having any superiority complex or something.

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Originally posted by HyacinthB:
Freddie has been taught to speak slowly and to enunciate.

That's how you're taught to speak at finishing school too.

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Originally posted by Videostar:
It all boils down to this, what do you prefer...

A HM who has certain way of talking that sounds slightly "patronising" but polite and decent, or sheep like rude aggressive bores who treat anyone different like dirt.?

I'll take patronising voice boy everytime.

I still believe that those who think that Freddie thinks he's better than everyone else is just a snob and hates posh people.

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Originally posted by cup:
everyone

i am saying that he spoke to lisa in a patronsing manner

i know the difference in all the rest of accent respect polite etc

But he did imo

nothing to do with posh accents people who speak politely and listen

This qualities are to be admired

but he can be patronising and that is what i dont like

so there

Of course you can have a sensible convo with freddie and listen to him and his views etc which is more appealing than the most of them

but he is patronising and not to be confused with anything else

I work with people myself who are from all walks of life,patronising from any walk of life i dont like in a person

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
The only person in the house who has hinted at class is Kris. He called Freddie a pleb, and then a dweeby pleb. Apart from the fact that Kris cannot even distinguish between words and meanings in the English Language, he exposed his inner inferiority complex for us all to see. Freddie is posh and polite. He never raises his voice - a bit like a Politician. He is controlled calm and classy in an argument and he would put anyone on the back foot by his arguing style. He uses reason, logic and intelligence to make his point. And he always sticks to the point and never wavers from it.

This is why he defeats those he argues with in the house. He is cool intelligent and calculating, and his politeness (while going for the jugular) confuses his enemy. That is why Lisa walks away ... she is defeated by cleverness.

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Originally posted by Videostar:

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Originally posted by cup:
everyone

i am saying that he spoke to lisa in a patronsing manner

i know the difference in all the rest of accent respect polite etc

But he did imo

nothing to do with posh accents people who speak politely and listen

This qualities are to be admired

but he can be patronising and that is what i dont like

so there

Of course you can have a sensible convo with freddie and listen to him and his views etc which is more appealing than the most of them

but he is patronising and not to be confused with anything else

I work with people myself who are from all walks of life,patronising from any walk of life i dont like in a person

Oh well, no one is perfect, he's still better than the rest in there and should win.

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
Plus I don't think he looks down at people at all .

The way he speaks down to people at times makes me feel he does and i do think he can be patronising at times imo he isnt perfect.

He isn't perfect at all and has his faults , but maybe it's the way he comes across trying to explain things to the chav clique as they have limited intelligence to understand the logic of what he is saying. If they listened instead of being defensive and shouting then they might just be able to understand what he is saying.

No one could defend or want to defend their behaviour againest freddies there is no contest

Just hearing him talk to lisa saying THERE IS A DIFF ER ENCE There is DIFF ER ENCE was imo patronising and talked down to her and she pulled him up and said do not speak to me in that way,and he acted as if he didnt know what she was talking about AND he did imo knew exactly what she meant and it was written all over his face

IMO talking down patronising

Dos not change my opinion that i want him to outstay the nasty gang no doubt

Even if it was too lisa who yells like a fishwife which i dont like i dont like people speaking like that either.

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Originally posted by squiggle:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cup:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by darloboy07:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cup:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by darloboy07:
Plus I don't think he looks down at people at all .