Lisa has told Freddie not to make comments to her.
Which means not speaking.
Now that IS being superior!
And Kris follows the same pattern.
Perhaps it is a sort of admission that they have trouble handling a discussion with Freddie.

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He's a credit to his parent's wether he's from a country estate or a housing estate

Well said
I've never felt he, talks down to people.
Imo, he is entitled to his opinion, just like any other HM.

If Freddie goes, I'll not see much point in watching anymore, tbh .... He's the only one I actually like

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:

A lot of people who support Freddie have said that they would find it difficult to live with him, but I would be intrigued. I'm not afraid to show my ignorance by asking questions and I think Freddie would explain things well enough for me to understand.

And I think he would do it with charm and with genuine interest in you. Its only their ignorance that blinds them from seeing the real Freddie and not the snobby person they think they see.

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by mad4cavs:
they need talking down to what a load of spiteful mean minded ,,,,,,,who made them the leaders they do treat him like pooh ,
wheres the love and acceptance ,

They are mean and spiteful to him no doubt about it

It shows them up for what they are

I dont know how much i could take of him talking down and appearing to be talking to someone below his intelligence.

I dont think he is without faults

i dont think he is without faults but what i do think is you could discuss those faults with him calmly and i am sure he would accept constructive critism
lisa s way of dealing with conflict is childish i would nt waste my breath on her ,
lisa lights the blue touch paper then sits back

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Originally posted by brisket:
Lisa has told Freddie not to make comments to her.
Which means not speaking.
Now that IS being superior!
And Kris follows the same pattern.
Perhaps it is a sort of admission that they have trouble handling a discussion with Freddie.

Best for the two of them if they do not speak they both cannot stand each other

He can be patronising when he starts speaking to her in that row he was imo

and she cannot speak to him in a civil tongue without sounding like a fish wife

She said she would never speak to marcus again and she did the bint

I think he has to speak slowly to them cos he realises the majority of them are too thick to understand a regular paced conversation.

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Originally posted by mad4cavs:

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by mad4cavs:
they need talking down to what a load of spiteful mean minded ,,,,,,,who made them the leaders they do treat him like pooh ,
wheres the love and acceptance ,

They are mean and spiteful to him no doubt about it

It shows them up for what they are

I dont know how much i could take of him talking down and appearing to be talking to someone below his intelligence.

I dont think he is without faults

i dont think he is without faults but what i do think is you could discuss those faults with him calmly and i am sure he would accept constructive critism
lisa s way of dealing with conflict is childish i would nt waste my breath on her ,
lisa lights the blue touch paper then sits back

I agree with you on the two of them lisa will always come out nasty and worse because that is what she is freddie is not

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:

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Originally posted by china:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
When did people stop trying to better themselves? When did it become a crime to be polite, show respect, be thankful for what you have, and want to contribute to society?

I think that is the problem that the housemates have with Freddie. He doesn't speak down to them, they just can't understand him when he uses a word with more than one syllable. So, he adjusts his speaking style and word choices so they will understand him.

He is intelligent and his world doesn't revolve around what the latest celebrity craze is this week. He is expected to interact with a "visual merchandiser", 2 glamour model wannabes, a loud mouthed ignorant woman on the dole, and a handful of other misfits. How he has been able to keep sane is a mystery to me.

remember when everyone picked on that smart girl on university challenge?
its the same sorta thing really

Oh yes! I would never describe myself as intelligent, yet Kris and Karly both did in their VTs on opening night. I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I put my shoes on the right foot correctly most of the time.

A lot of people who support Freddie have said that they would find it difficult to live with him, but I would be intrigued. I'm not afraid to show my ignorance by asking questions and I think Freddie would explain things well enough for me to understand.

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I think he has to speak slowly to them cos he realises the majority of them are too thick to understand a regular paced conversation.

Maybe they are thick and slow and not as well educated than him which is what i believe he thinks of most of the housmates and it shows lol

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I think he has to speak slowly to them cos he realises the majority of them are too thick to understand a regular paced conversation.

Maybe they are thick and slow and not as well educated than him which is what i believe he thinks of most of the housmates and it shows lol

But he is right...cos whatever he says they seem to deliberately 'misunderstand'or twist so they only have themselves to blame.

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I think he has to speak slowly to them cos he realises the majority of them are too thick to understand a regular paced conversation.

agreed look at their iq scores i do think big bro have put quite a few housemates in who fall below the norm iq score,this i think was to cause conflict.

He has to speak slowly so what he is on about sinks in their chavvy brains. It's a shame they ostracise him because he has an upper class education but at least he is safe with the knowledge he has good manners, class and dignity and doesn't need to bow down to the chavdom of Lisa and co.

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I think he has to speak slowly to them cos he realises the majority of them are too thick to understand a regular paced conversation.

Maybe they are thick and slow and not as well educated than him which is what i believe he thinks of most of the housmates and it shows lol

But he is right...cos whatever he says they seem to deliberately 'misunderstand'or twist so they only have themselves to blame.

agreed lisa takes great delight in twisting freddys words around and passing them on
he doesnt stand a chance really

Plus I don't think he looks down at people at all .

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I think he has to speak slowly to them cos he realises the majority of them are too thick to understand a regular paced conversation.

Maybe they are thick and slow and not as well educated than him which is what i believe he thinks of most of the housmates and it shows lol

But he is right...cos whatever he says they seem to deliberately 'misunderstand'or twist so they only have themselves to blame.

I no i am never going to win on this thread lol,but just the way he talks to them at times,not his manners his accent or the respect he shows because no one could fault him for that he stands head and shoulders above them in all counts there,during the convo with lisa he starts to talk to her in the most patronsing way as if she ill educated or slow,and it was wrong imo.

Even if she is

seen it a few times with him

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
Plus I don't think he looks down at people at all .

The way he speaks down to people at times makes me feel he does and i do think he can be patronising at times imo he isnt perfect.

The only person in the house who has hinted at class is Kris. He called Freddie a pleb, and then a dweeby pleb. Apart from the fact that Kris cannot even distinguish between words and meanings in the English Language, he exposed his inner inferiority complex for us all to see. Freddie is posh and polite. He never raises his voice - a bit like a Politician. He is controlled calm and classy in an argument and he would put anyone on the back foot by his arguing style. He uses reason, logic and intelligence to make his point. And he always sticks to the point and never wavers from it.

This is why he defeats those he argues with in the house. He is cool intelligent and calculating, and his politeness (while going for the jugular) confuses his enemy. That is why Lisa walks away ... she is defeated by cleverness.

I think at times he deliberately slow low droning tone

His tone is as if he is talking to poorly educationed low intelligence people

repeating the same word as if you do not know what it means

Just something i have observed from him

That i do not like so there

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
Plus I don't think he looks down at people at all .

The way he speaks down to people at times makes me feel he does and i do think he can be patronising at times imo he isnt perfect.

He isn't perfect at all and has his faults , but maybe it's the way he comes across trying to explain things to the chav clique as they have limited intelligence to understand the logic of what he is saying. If they listened instead of being defensive and shouting then they might just be able to understand what he is saying.

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he isnt perfect.

no body is perfect.

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I think he has to speak slowly to them cos he realises the majority of them are too thick to understand a regular paced conversation.

Maybe they are thick and slow and not as well educated than him which is what i believe he thinks of most of the housmates and it shows lol

But he is right...cos whatever he says they seem to deliberately 'misunderstand'or twist so they only have themselves to blame.

I no i am never going to win on this thread lol,but just the way he talks to them at times,not his manners his accent or the respect he shows because no one could fault him for that he stands head and shoulders above them in all counts there,during the convo with lisa he starts to talk to her in the most patronsing way as if she ill educated or slow,and it was wrong imo.

Even if she is

seen it a few times with him

i can see your point but siavash marcus,rodrigo,even noirin seem to communicate with freddie alright,is that because they are not intimidated by him and can hold interesting conversations ,
kris karly lisa etc do seem to be rather shallow they take great delight saying freddy has a game plan ,but its easy to see that everyone in that house is out to make a little money/fame and why not,
good luck to all of them even lisa.

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Originally posted by darloboy07:

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by darloboy07:
Plus I don't think he looks down at people at all .

The way he speaks down to people at times makes me feel he does and i do think he can be patronising at times imo he isnt perfect.

He isn't perfect at all and has his faults , but maybe it's the way he comes across trying to explain things to the chav clique as they have limited intelligence to understand the logic of what he is saying. If they listened instead of being defensive and shouting then they might just be able to understand what he is saying.

No one could defend or want to defend their behaviour againest freddies there is no contest

Just hearing him talk to lisa saying THERE IS A DIFF ER ENCE There is DIFF ER ENCE was imo patronising and talked down to her and she pulled him up and said do not speak to me in that way,and he acted as if he didnt know what she was talking about AND he did imo knew exactly what she meant and it was written all over his face

IMO talking down patronising

Dos not change my opinion that i want him to outstay the nasty gang no doubt

Even if it was too lisa who yells like a fishwife which i dont like i dont like people speaking like that either.

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Originally posted by cup:
I think at times he deliberately slow low droning tone

His tone is as if he is talking to poorly educationed low intelligence people

repeating the same word as if you do not know what it means

Just something i have observed from him

That i do not like so there

I haven't observed that, I have, however, observed that he's unwaveringly polite to everybody, makes no distinction, does not play the mansion card, does not bragg about having lots of money (quite the reverse in fact), makes solid contributions towards tasks, does not push himself in front of anybody. That I like.

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Originally posted by *Yogi Bear*:
i think what would annoy me about freddie (and this is actually a good trait) is that he never gets ruffled

When i am in the mood for an argument i want the other person to argue back with me.... and not in the cool way he does... i need someone to be as irrational as i am in a good old get it off my chest arguement

My husband's like that - he keeps his cool in a very controlled manner whilst I just get more indignant and angry and start shouting at which point I've totally lost the argument!!

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Originally posted by mad4cavs:

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I think he has to speak slowly to them cos he realises the majority of them are too thick to understand a regular paced conversation.

Maybe they are thick and slow and not as well educated than him which is what i believe he thinks of most of the housmates and it shows lol

But he is right...cos whatever he says they seem to deliberately 'misunderstand'or twist so they only have themselves to blame.

I no i am never going to win on this thread lol,but just the way he talks to them at times,not his manners his accent or the respect he shows because no one could fault him for that he stands head and shoulders above them in all counts there,during the convo with lisa he starts to talk to her in the most patronsing way as if she ill educated or slow,and it was wrong imo.

Even if she is

seen it a few times with him

i can see your point but siavash marcus,rodrigo,even noirin seem to communicate with freddie alright,is that because they are not intimidated by him and can hold interesting conversations ,
kris karly lisa etc do seem to be rather shallow they take great delight saying freddy has a game plan ,but its easy to see that everyone in that house is out to make a little money/fame and why not,
good luck to all of them even lisa.

norin is two faced with him she talks all sweetness and light to him then runs off and nominates him and agrees with the others when they are together,Siravash has said himself freddie does himself no favours and needs to let go more etc rod nominates him every week.

Karly lisa kriss and dogface nominate him slag him off they find him totally irritating sometimes i think freddie thrives on this side to him as he knows it pushes their buttons and if you give them enough rope they will hang themselves

and they just cannot see it

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Originally posted by Bethni:
I don't think you can call it talking down to people. He's been brought up and educated to speak the way he does.Should we also complain about ,say, Lisa talking like she's ashamed of where she's from. I think Freddie show's great restraint in his dealing with being sniggered at and bitched about. I'd have shown myself up by Screaming at shouting at them all by now lol.

He's a credit to his parent's wether he's from a country estate or a housing estate. The rest of them are a disgrace.

Hear Hear.

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Originally posted by Bethni:
I don't think you can call it talking down to people. He's been brought up and educated to speak the way he does.Should we also complain about ,say, Lisa talking like she's ashamed of where she's from. I think Freddie show's great restraint in his dealing with being sniggered at and bitched about. I'd have shown myself up by Screaming at shouting at them all by now lol.

He's a credit to his parent's wether he's from a country estate or a housing estate. The rest of them are a disgrace.

Well said - totally agree

She showed her lack of listening skills right from the beginning. Maybe he's picked up on that?

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Originally posted by cup:
I think at times he deliberately slow low droning tone
His tone is as if he is talking to poorly educationed low intelligence people
repeating the same word as if you do not know what it means
Just something i have observed from him
That i do not like so there

i call that the 'bbc reporter' effort - the 'we understand, you don't' the credit crunch banking crisis happy happy let me tell you in a biased story type of reporting.

still don't think freddie talks down the nose though, he goes into a 'condor' moment. a bit like a sudden jolt from his musings, when he glances on the cretins sneering and smirking at him speaking. he then tries to make an extra attempt at their 'better' nature, but to no avail.

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Originally posted by HyacinthB:

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Originally posted by *Yogi Bear*:
i think what would annoy me about freddie (and this is actually a good trait) is that he never gets ruffled

When i am in the mood for an argument i want the other person to argue back with me.... and not in the cool way he does... i need someone to be as irrational as i am in a good old get it off my chest arguement

My husband's like that - he keeps his cool in a very controlled manner whilst I just get more indignant and angry and start shouting at which point I've totally lost the argument!!

I agree with you Hyacinth B those who keep cool are always the winners in an argument,but i think freddie knows the buttons to push and does know indeed when he is talking down to people I AM GOING TO WATCH him

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Originally posted by bozzimacoo:

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Originally posted by cup:
I think at times he deliberately slow low droning tone
His tone is as if he is talking to poorly educationed low intelligence people
repeating the same word as if you do not know what it means
Just something i have observed from him
That i do not like so there

i call that the 'bbc reporter' effort - the 'we understand, you don't' the credit crunch banking crisis happy happy let me tell you in a biased way type of reporting.

still don't think freddie talks down the nose though, he goes into a 'condor' moment. a bit like a sudden jolt from his musings, when he glances on the cretins sneering and smirking at him speaking. he then tries to make an extra attempt at their 'better' nature, but to no avail.

like that bbc reporting biased theroy Well if that is what it is I dont LIKE it

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
I think he has to speak slowly to them cos he realises the majority of them are too thick to understand a regular paced conversation.

Somebody said on here that people with dyslexia talk slowly. He even talks slowly in the diary room so I don`t think its done purposely to patronise - its just the way he talks - I talk very slowly as well.

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by cup:
I think at times he deliberately slow low droning tone

His tone is as if he is talking to poorly educationed low intelligence people

repeating the same word as if you do not know what it means

Just something i have observed from him

That i do not like so there

I haven't observed that, I have, however, observed that he's unwaveringly polite to everybody, makes no distinction, does not play the mansion card, does not bragg about having lots of money (quite the reverse in fact), makes solid contributions towards tasks, does not push himself in front of anybody. That I like.

you are quite right about him in all you say in this post

He isnt none of those things like REX LOL

But i cannot get away sometimes the way he imo talks down

and i am never going to win on this one

But it is my humble opinion

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
When did people stop trying to better themselves? When did it become a crime to be polite, show respect, be thankful for what you have, and want to contribute to society?

I think that is the problem that the housemates have with Freddie. He doesn't speak down to them, they just can't understand him when he uses a word with more than one syllable. So, he adjusts his speaking style and word choices so they will understand him.

He is intelligent and his world doesn't revolve around what the latest celebrity craze is this week. He is expected to interact with a "visual merchandiser", 2 glamour model wannabes, a loud mouthed ignorant woman on the dole, and a handful of other misfits. How he has been able to keep sane is a mystery to me.

Well said.

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
When did people stop trying to better themselves? When did it become a crime to be polite, show respect, be thankful for what you have, and want to contribute to society?

I think that is the problem that the housemates have with Freddie. He doesn't speak down to them, they just can't understand him when he uses a word with more than one syllable. So, he adjusts his speaking style and word choices so they will understand him.

He is intelligent and his world doesn't revolve around what the latest celebrity craze is this week. He is expected to interact with a "visual merchandiser", 2 glamour model wannabes, a loud mouthed ignorant woman on the dole, and a handful of other misfits. How he has been able to keep sane is a mystery to me.

Every one should better themselves and in that house with the type of people who do not seem to think or speak for themselves would try your nerves to the limits

so would freddie sometimes try your nerves i do believe this

But he does stand head and shoulders above them in manners etc,but i think he can be patronising as well

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Originally posted by cup:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mad4cavs:norin is two faced with him she talks all sweetness and light to him then runs off and nominates him and agrees with the others when they are together,Siravash has said himself freddie does himself no favours and needs to let go more etc rod nominates him every week.

Karly lisa kriss and dogface nominate him slag him off they find him totally irritating sometimes i think freddie thrives on this side to him as he knows it pushes their buttons and if you give them enough rope they will hang themselves

and they just cannot see it

rodrigo is genuine but easily influenced noirin is 2 faced
but freddy is who he is ,and i admire the way he is with them i couldnt stay as cool i would be spitting teeth i would be that angry i wouldnt get a word out,

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by bozzimacoo:

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Originally posted by cup:
I think at times he deliberately slow low droning tone
His tone is as if he is talking to poorly educationed low intelligence people
repeating the same word as if you do not know what it means
Just something i have observed from him
That i do not like so there

i call that the 'bbc reporter' effect - the 'we understand, you don't' the credit crunch banking crisis happy happy let me tell you in a biased story type of way.

still don't think freddie talks down the nose though, he goes into a 'condor' moment. a bit like he is suddenly jolted from his musings, when he glances on the cretins sneering and smirking at him speaking. he then tries to make an extra attempt at their 'better' nature, but to no avail.

like that bbc reporting biased theory. Well if that is what it is, I dont LIKE it

are you a bbc reporter?

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Originally posted by bozzimacoo:

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Originally posted by cup:

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Originally posted by bozzimacoo:

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Originally posted by cup:
I think at times he deliberately slow low droning tone
His tone is as if he is talking to poorly educationed low intelligence people
repeating the same word as if you do not know what it means
Just something i have observed from him
That i do not like so there

i call that the 'bbc reporter' effect - the 'we understand, you don't' the credit crunch banking crisis happy happy let me tell you in a biased story type of way.

still don't think freddie talks down the nose though, he goes into a 'condor' moment. a bit like he is suddenly jolted from his musings, when he glances on the cretins sneering and smirking at him speaking. he then tries to make an extra attempt at their 'better' nature, but to no avail.

like that bbc reporting biased theory. Well if that is what it is, I dont LIKE it

are you a bbc reporter?

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Originally posted by mad4cavs:

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Originally posted by cup:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mad4cavs:norin is two faced with him she talks all sweetness and light to him then runs off and nominates him and agrees with the others when they are together,Siravash has said himself freddie does himself no favours and needs to let go more etc rod nominates him every week.

Karly lisa kriss and dogface nominate him slag him off they find him totally irritating sometimes i think freddie thrives on this side to him as he knows it pushes their buttons and if you give them enough rope they will hang themselves

and they just cannot see it

rodrigo is genuine but easily influenced noirin is 2 faced
but freddy is who he is ,and i admire the way he is with them i couldnt stay as cool i would be spitting teeth i would be that angry i wouldnt get a word out,

lol i know what you mean but i wonder what it would be like to live with freddie 24/7 lol

He is always going to be a winner over the bullies is he playing on that now and starting the drama for the smypathy vote he is smart and they are playing into his hands hook line and sinker

Or is he 100 per cent genuine

BRING BACK LIVE FEED when all esle fails call for LIVE FEED

He sometimes shows character traits that betray the fact that he hasn'thad much contact with the real world. He's a decent person but he has to realise that other people have different belief systems to him.