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Originally posted by Azure:
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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
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Originally posted by Azure:
my son was/is Dyslexic his teachers said he would amount to nothing and did'nt help,
he now has his own international business as an Oil and Gas Rig consultant, his dyslexia drove him to succeed.


go on the pair of em, I am so proud of him and his dad was unbelievably proud, I know ditty you must be as well,
my son has a large 50ft yacht, a 6 bedroom home, he is in Texas as I type, but will be in Abu dabi next week, his office is in Monte Carlo with a second one in Holland. I cant believe how well our boy has done and the teachers washed their hands of him, well do you know what Ditty they did him a good turn.

My brother's the same Azure... so profoundly dyslexic that he left school with a gsce in art and thats all. Teachers didn't even pick up on it til he was 14, but still didn't bother plucking him out of the remedial classes.

They told him his options were 'limited'. My mum dragged him down the careers advice centre, and there was a placement for an apprentice computer programmer. Everything clicked. He couldn't read numbers or letters properly... but computer code... it was like the matrix!!!

6 yrs later he had his own business... earned his first million - Consulting. He drove past his school, in his Lotus Elise... papped his horn and waved at his head of year!

sorry I cocked that post up, I am a numpty when it comes to posting but hey I raised...........oh ok his dad did a brilliant son.
I know its always said but Einstein was dyslexic failure at school. But it enabled him to look at traditional physics in an unconventional way.



Oh also notice that he doesnt harp on about it like some previous HMs. It has no link to intelligence though it can hamper learning severely.
CaptVimes
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Originally posted by electric6:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
Mad Just watching it again....Freddy is struggling to speak and that nasty mare says why are you speaking like that.

I'm watching it on C4+1 because I watched the Autism doc on BBC3 at 9...just catching up with what the rest of you have seen...it's not pleasant watching.

And only last week I wanted her to stay because I thought she was good telly! Mad <<<<I'm mad at myself!


Ta electric for having the courage to say so!I know what you mean by 'good tele' But there is a difference between good tele and car crash... she is car crash IMO Ta again
F
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Originally posted by Forest:
I can't stand Freddie, never have, I dislike him for several reasons: I find him insincere, manipulative, condescending, full of bullshit half the time and pompous. This has nothing to do with whether he has a disability and its a weak and easy argument to try to defend or justify his actions because of it and that of why someone might not hold him in high esteem.

Sure, he may have problems with his speech or may deal with situations differently to others, but he has made it through Oxford and it seems that he may have a promising career in politics. Its not held him back in any way so why should I judge him differently negatively or positively based on that. It's condescending.


The forest's so dense you cannot see the wood for the trees ! Shake Head
F
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Originally posted by Azure:

go on the pair of em, I am so proud of him and his dad was unbelievably proud, I know ditty you must be as well,
my son has a large 50ft yacht, a 6 bedroom home, he is in Texas as I type, but will be in Abu dabi next week, his office is in Monte Carlo with a second one in Holland. I cant believe how well our boy has done and the teachers washed their hands of him, well do you know what Ditty they did him a good turn.


Valentine

Ok.. so here's a weird thing about my brother.... he really really struggled at school... and could hardly read. BUT, the first book he read (at 19) was Dune, followed by the Lord of the Rings series.

That freaked us all out!

And yes Azure... he drives me round the bend sometimes, dunno if thats his dyslexia, or just him, but he also makes me laugh like no-one else can, and I am very proud of him (most of the time! Laugh )
Dirtyprettygirlthing
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Originally posted by Forest:
I can't stand Freddie, never have, I dislike him for several reasons: I find him insincere, manipulative, condescending, full of bullshit half the time and pompous. This has nothing to do with whether he has a disability and its a weak and easy argument to try to defend or justify his actions because of it and that of why someone might not hold him in high esteem.

Sure, he may have problems with his speech or may deal with situations differently to others, but he has made it through Oxford and it seems that he may have a promising career in politics. Its not held him back in any way so why should I judge him differently negatively or positively based on that. It's condescending.


Perhaps a bit of empathy and compassion for another human being suffering, might not be a bad thing.
Liverpoollass
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Originally posted by Soozy woo:
I'm sorry if I've offended folks here but I do live with two members of my family who have dyslexia .............they have problems (which we get round) with reading, spelling and general literacy .........it doesn't hamper their lives or emotional well being.

Freddie is quite happy to lay back in bed and accept that he has used his intellect to brow beat people ......he has a University degree 2:1 and has quite obviously overidden the dyslexia problems. In all honesty I feel more sorry for Dave and lisa who haven't had the advantage of a good education and struggle with putting a coherent argument together when confronted by the oh so cocky Freddie.

Sorry if it offends but dyslexia has bugger all to do with it in my opinion. Freddie is simply an over bearing arse.


wouldnt there be different levels of dyslexia
like diff levels of autism just cos ur sons cope diff to freddy dont mean what ppl are sayin in this thread a load of shite does it
jamieboy
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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
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Originally posted by Forest:
I can't stand Freddie, never have, I dislike him for several reasons: I find him insincere, manipulative, condescending, full of bullshit half the time and pompous. This has nothing to do with whether he has a disability and its a weak and easy argument to try to defend or justify his actions because of it and that of why someone might not hold him in high esteem.

Sure, he may have problems with his speech or may deal with situations differently to others, but he has made it through Oxford and it seems that he may have a promising career in politics. Its not held him back in any way so why should I judge him differently negatively or positively based on that. It's condescending.


Perhaps a bit of empathy and compassion for another human being suffering, might not be a bad thing.


I did feel sorry for him last night having a panic attack, I know what that feels like and he has my sympathy. Frowner

However it did highlight how little his particular dyslexia is affected by stress. Dyslexia is often associated with short term memory deficit, but remember how he was able to reel back what Bea had said to him verbatim...very impressive, no sign of stress affecting his communication skills there at all.
The later episode where he was struggling could be equally attributed to an anxiety attack.

Yes dyslexia can be a debilitating condition as far as learning is concerned, but it's not an over arching explanation for a man being a pompous twat...which Freddy is most of the time, and I agree with what Forest said above Thumbs Up

Using dyslexia to excuse his behaviour is an insult to other people with dyslexia who don't behave this way.

Freddy irritates me because as a man that must have suffered abuse for his learning problems as a child, he should know better than to be so patronising about other people's intelligence...yet that has become one of his defining personality characteristics


... and when given a bit of power and back up, he has shown he can be equally as vicious as the people that must have once ridiculed him Roll Eyes
DanceSettee
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
I did feel sorry for him last night having a panic attack, I know what that feels like and he has my sympathy. Frowner

However it did highlight how little his particular dyslexia is affected by stress. Dyslexia is often associated with short term memory deficit, but remember how he was able to reel back what Bea had said to him verbatim...very impressive, no sign of stress affecting his communication skills there at all.
The later episode where he was struggling could be equally attributed to an anxiety attack.

Yes dyslexia can be a debilitating condition as far as learning is concerned, but it's not an over arching explanation for a man being a pompous twat...which Freddy is most of the time, and I agree with what Forest said above Thumbs Up

Using dyslexia to excuse his behaviour is an insult to other people with dyslexia who don't behave this way.

Freddy irritates me because as a man that must have suffered abuse for his learning problems as a child, he should know better than to be so patronising about other people's intelligence...yet that has become one of his defining personality characteristics


... and when given a bit of power and back up, he has shown he can be equally as vicious as the people that must have once ridiculed him Roll Eyes


Oh well, we will have to agree to disagree Nod
Liverpoollass
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Originally posted by *KG*:
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Originally posted by pepsi:
If people don't like him because they simply DON'T like him that's fine Smiler No-one with a disability (hidden or visible) would ask that you like them just because they are disabled Nod

I'm just pointing out that some aspects of his coping strategies although irritating are HIS way of coping, and Bea drove him to the point of a panic attack almost.
Well-said! Nod Clapping

But, whilst I think its wrong to patronise those with disabilities (whether visible or not) I also believe that any decent human being would make allowances for whatever the 'short-fall' might be, but it seems that because Knobber comes from a very well-to-do background, he's not afforded much empathy by some.

Its not his bloody fault which family he happened to be born into, any more than its our fault which families we all come from!

Well said - too much inverted snobbery going around. Lisa is the first one thats why Freddie has had ago at her. Its pathetic really.
Reality Junkie
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Soozy woo:
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh i'm feeling all guilty now (not) my husa=band and oldest son are both quite severely dyslexic. i've never ever felt the need to treat them differently on day to day matters .....we all have our own ways of dealing with things emotionally ........i really and truly dont think that being dyslexic is any different. FGS!- I really and truly dont ..................no disrespect but ..........if someone struggles with spelling, reading etc that's one thing ..........................struggling emotionally is something we all do. Not buying the dyslexia disadvantage at all.[/QUOTE
I think you need to re read the post by Pepsi.
Reality Junkie
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Originally posted by tupps:
Interesting information.. but it doesn't really tell me anything about Freddie. He may not tick any of the boxes, he may tick all of them.. but I don't know because I'm not close to him nor am I his GP. Neither would Bea know.. so it'd be unfair to judge her on something she couldn't let alone wouldn't know.

Unfair!!! Bea doesnt know what fair is or she wouldnt be such and evil cow.
Reality Junkie
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Originally posted by pepsi:
Taken from here ..... http://www.computing.dundee.ac...anding_dyslexia3.asp


I wanted to draw your attention to this particular bit...

What are the secondary characteristics of dyslexia?

This section has so far dealt with what are known as the primary effects of the dyslexic brain on the functioning of the dyslexic person. We have also seen how these cognitive characteristics affect reading and writing and general tasks which rely on short-term memory.

However, there are also characteristics associated with being dyslexic which develop as a consequence of our experiences. In education, for example, there is an emphasis on the use of short-term memory and its associated functions. This has an impact on our emotional responses to learning. (See also Section 2: What is dyslexia? - short-term memory)

"We started a computer induction project two weeks ago and I sat down there and it was just too much information going in - I just felt really stressed out. I went to my tutor and told him I felt I'd really learnt nothing, I was really angry with myself - a feeling of failure. However, I knew what I had to do was just go in and have a fiddle and break it up into segments - don't look at the whole thing, just look at what you have learnt; what did you learn yesterday? Well, I can switch it on now, now thatïŋ―s a start!"

These secondary characteristics can be disabling and usually arise because the primary effects of dyslexia were not addressed or understood.

These secondary characteristics are typically:

* Anxiety.
* Stress.
* Panic.

"If someone is not being coherent - adding ten more equations into the one thing you want to talk about - youïŋ―ve got all these images coming up, it's like a balloon with a whole load of balls inside it and they're all just bouncing off each other and you don't know which ball you want to take out and there's only about two that you need to work with. If thereïŋ―s too many balls in the bag, well, you can juggle, but it's not conducive to what I really want."

* Lack of confidence.
* Not liking or valuing self.

"When I try to say something I'm always worried it will come out wrong, 'cos it always does, so I never say it."

* Tiredness.
* Fatigue.
* Burnout.

"I say to myself: 'Look, I've been taught - I can read, I can write, I can spell.' But when I get tired, at the end of the day it's too much - it takes so much longer when I'm tired."

* Frustration.
* Anger.

"It would be nice if everyone knew how frustrating it is - if they could be dyslexic just for three weeks, find out how much harder it is, what you go through to get anywhere."



I realised a while ago that Freddie's sighs and erms were his way of coping with getting his thoughts into order before speaking them.

His reaction to the disgusting treatment from Bea...a person he thought he liked and could trust, is completely understandable

Maybe those who have judged him on his "quirky" ways should take a step back and try to imagine what it is like gathering your thoughts together and explaining your feelings when you have dyslexia


Thank you for that pepsi. I am afraid that there's a lot of people in this world who have no sympathy with gentle people who struggle to make sense of a world that sometimes seems to be like a weird assault course, nothing but difficulties.
squiggle
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Originally posted by Reality Junkie:
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Originally posted by tupps:
Interesting information.. but it doesn't really tell me anything about Freddie. He may not tick any of the boxes, he may tick all of them.. but I don't know because I'm not close to him nor am I his GP. Neither would Bea know.. so it'd be unfair to judge her on something she couldn't let alone wouldn't know.

Unfair!!! Bea doesnt know what fair is or she wouldnt be such and evil cow.


What you think of her is none of my business. In fact I wish you'd make it none of my business and stop sharing it with me.

However, as you insist.. the post you have quoted is my opinion on equity and the judgement of people. I note that has been lost on you.. unlike the possibility to rant like a demented harridan at one of my posts at any given opportunity.
tupps
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
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Originally posted by Forest:
I can't stand Freddie, never have, I dislike him for several reasons: I find him insincere, manipulative, condescending, full of bullshit half the time and pompous. This has nothing to do with whether he has a disability and its a weak and easy argument to try to defend or justify his actions because of it and that of why someone might not hold him in high esteem.

Sure, he may have problems with his speech or may deal with situations differently to others, but he has made it through Oxford and it seems that he may have a promising career in politics. Its not held him back in any way so why should I judge him differently negatively or positively based on that. It's condescending.


Perhaps a bit of empathy and compassion for another human being suffering, might not be a bad thing.


I did feel sorry for him last night having a panic attack, I know what that feels like and he has my sympathy. Frowner

However it did highlight how little his particular dyslexia is affected by stress. Dyslexia is often associated with short term memory deficit, but remember how he was able to reel back what Bea had said to him verbatim...very impressive, no sign of stress affecting his communication skills there at all.
The later episode where he was struggling could be equally attributed to an anxiety attack.

Yes dyslexia can be a debilitating condition as far as learning is concerned, but it's not an over arching explanation for a man being a pompous twat...which Freddy is most of the time, and I agree with what Forest said above Thumbs Up

Using dyslexia to excuse his behaviour is an insult to other people with dyslexia who don't behave this way.

Freddy irritates me because as a man that must have suffered abuse for his learning problems as a child, he should know better than to be so patronising about other people's intelligence...yet that has become one of his defining personality characteristics


... and when given a bit of power and back up, he has shown he can be equally as vicious as the people that must have once ridiculed him Roll Eyes


I have to agree with a lot that's said here and what Tupps said; the Dundee model states the spectrum of symptoms that may appear in the various forms (and there are many) of dyslexia but we have no access to which are affecting Freddie's behaviour. In addition, anxiety (and depression) or susceptibility to them are co-morbid with virtually every psychopathological condition known (organic or not).

By attributing all his quirky behaviours to his condition we're in danger of objectifying him as his condition. He's a human being with a wide range of personality traits (good and bad) including those that may be driven by his dyslexia. We can't easily determine which are and which aren't. The 'ahhs and ummm's'? He does that even when eating or drinking or no conversation is occurring. It may be a non-verbal vehicle for expressing his happiness / contentment or it may be just a non-dyslexia associated habit. Who knows? I know a couple of (non-dyslexic) people who do that. It annoys his HMs though and, given his intelligence and undoubted sensitivity to social situations in other ways, he might consider amending it.

I'm under no doubt that his dyslexia will affect his information processing, his receptive and expressive language and that these things have a knock on effect...and that he's a nice enough bloke but, (and he's by no means the only person in there guilty of this), he seems hyperacutely aware of the socio-emotional behaviours of his HMs but doesn't, perhaps, take enough time to consider the impact of his own little foibles on others. In that way he's no different to Marcus, Bea, Lisa, David, Charlie....et al.

Having said all that, last noight's performance by Bea was astonishingly, clinically, ruthless and quite cruel. She seemed (seems) to thrive on capitalising on his weak points to her social advantage. She's intelligent, isn't she? She saw the visible signs of fairly acute and severe distress in him yet continued. Even her re-appearance in the bedroom to console him seemed, to me, more strategic ("Look everyone, I DO care about him. Nice me!") than truly compassionate.

She's not a very nice person, and, as Siavash said, Freddie needs to recognise this (rather than cling to his imitial impression of her being a soulamte) and learn to detach himself emotionally from her. I hope that this morning he has gained a little clarity and resilience and feels better. Wasn't nice to see any human being like he was last night.
subatomic partygirl
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Originally posted by jennywren:
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Originally posted by pepsi:
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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
Mad Just watching it again....Freddy is struggling to speak and that nasty mare says why are you speaking like that.


Yeah Lee...that's what inspired me to post this. She , who is supposed to be sooo intelligent and psychologically aware, had to even ASK him that?.... Shake Head


Thank you for this thread, Pepsi. I've learnt much more about dyslexia, which I thought was just problems with "jumbled up letters".


I want to thank you again, Pepsi, because what you have highlighted seems to give the answers to some of the problems my son has had. He recognises himself in what is written on here. Perhaps others, too, may see something they recognise, and can go to their doctors and find out whether they are dyslexic or not.

That's the importance of threads, such as this, to highlight problems that many of us know nothing about.

And that's the importance of having people, such as Freddie, in the house - to highlight those same problems.
jennywren
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Originally posted by tupps:
Interesting information.. but it doesn't really tell me anything about Freddie. He may not tick any of the boxes, he may tick all of them.. but I don't know because I'm not close to him nor am I his GP. Neither would Bea know.. so it'd be unfair to judge her on something she couldn't let alone wouldn't know.


I think Bea would know. She's studied psychology.
jennywren
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Originally posted by jennywren:
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Originally posted by tupps:
Interesting information.. but it doesn't really tell me anything about Freddie. He may not tick any of the boxes, he may tick all of them.. but I don't know because I'm not close to him nor am I his GP. Neither would Bea know.. so it'd be unfair to judge her on something she couldn't let alone wouldn't know.


I think Bea would know. She's studied psychology.


Oh yeah.. you're right.. that would make her an expert.

I did a 3 week course on basic engine maintenance.. I won't be applying to the Formula 1 pit crew any time soon though.
tupps
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Originally posted by tupps:
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Originally posted by jennywren:
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Originally posted by tupps:
Interesting information.. but it doesn't really tell me anything about Freddie. He may not tick any of the boxes, he may tick all of them.. but I don't know because I'm not close to him nor am I his GP. Neither would Bea know.. so it'd be unfair to judge her on something she couldn't let alone wouldn't know.


I think Bea would know. She's studied psychology.


Oh yeah.. you're right.. that would make her an expert.

I did a 3 week course on basic engine maintenance.. I won't be applying to the Formula 1 pit crew any time soon though.



Laugh
TiGi
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Originally posted by Bojangles:
First and formost Freddie is a gentleman,and didn't deserve to be subjected to that psycho bitches abuse.Wonder what the outcome would have been had psycho bitch abused Marcus.


Bullies don't tend to pick on people like Marcus who is quite capable of telling that psycho Bea where to shove it.
squiggle
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Originally posted by squiggle:
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Originally posted by Bojangles:
First and formost Freddie is a gentleman,and didn't deserve to be subjected to that psycho bitches abuse.Wonder what the outcome would have been had psycho bitch abused Marcus.


Bullies don't tend to pick on people like Marcus who is quite capable of telling that psycho Bea where to shove it.


So very true,psycho bitch doesn't get involved with Marcus does she anymore.
B
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Originally posted by Bojangles:
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Originally posted by squiggle:
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Originally posted by Bojangles:
First and formost Freddie is a gentleman,and didn't deserve to be subjected to that psycho bitches abuse.Wonder what the outcome would have been had psycho bitch abused Marcus.


Bullies don't tend to pick on people like Marcus who is quite capable of telling that psycho Bea where to shove it.


So very true,psycho bitch doesn't get involved with Marcus does she anymore.


I think I realised that he has got her measure when he asked her whether she wanted to suck his love pump, she just blanked him.
squiggle
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Originally posted by tupps:
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Originally posted by jennywren:
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Originally posted by tupps:
Interesting information.. but it doesn't really tell me anything about Freddie. He may not tick any of the boxes, he may tick all of them.. but I don't know because I'm not close to him nor am I his GP. Neither would Bea know.. so it'd be unfair to judge her on something she couldn't let alone wouldn't know.


I think Bea would know. She's studied psychology.


Oh yeah.. you're right.. that would make her an expert.

I did a 3 week course on basic engine maintenance.. I won't be applying to the Formula 1 pit crew any time soon though.


She may or may not have come across dyslexia as a psychological condition during her studies. I don't know. But she will have come across emotional reaction and difficulties. She is not using this knowledge to understand people, but to abuse them.
jennywren
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Originally posted by Bojangles:
...Wonder what the outcome would have been had psycho bitch abused Marcus.


oh that would be interesting...clash of the psycho bitches Laugh

Don't forget Marcus was taking the very same approach with Noirin, putting her down with every sentence he spoke to her

Bea and Marcus are cut from the same cloth Nod
DanceSettee
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Originally posted by jennywren:
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Originally posted by tupps:
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Originally posted by jennywren:
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Originally posted by tupps:
Interesting information.. but it doesn't really tell me anything about Freddie. He may not tick any of the boxes, he may tick all of them.. but I don't know because I'm not close to him nor am I his GP. Neither would Bea know.. so it'd be unfair to judge her on something she couldn't let alone wouldn't know.


I think Bea would know. She's studied psychology.


Oh yeah.. you're right.. that would make her an expert.

I did a 3 week course on basic engine maintenance.. I won't be applying to the Formula 1 pit crew any time soon though.


She may or may not have come across dyslexia as a psychological condition during her studies. I don't know. But she will have come across emotional reaction and difficulties. She is not using this knowledge to understand people, but to abuse them.


Yep.. we don't know. Which is exactly my point.

By the same token.. I would like to know where Freddie picked up his knowledge of emotional manipulation techniques too. Seems to me he's not using this knowledge to understand people but abuse them also.
tupps
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
I did feel sorry for him last night having a panic attack, I know what that feels like and he has my sympathy. Frowner

However it did highlight how little his particular dyslexia is affected by stress. Dyslexia is often associated with short term memory deficit, but remember how he was able to reel back what Bea had said to him verbatim...very impressive, no sign of stress affecting his communication skills there at all.
The later episode where he was struggling could be equally attributed to an anxiety attack.

Yes dyslexia can be a debilitating condition as far as learning is concerned, but it's not an over arching explanation for a man being a pompous twat...which Freddy is most of the time, and I agree with what Forest said above Thumbs Up

Using dyslexia to excuse his behaviour is an insult to other people with dyslexia who don't behave this way.

Freddy irritates me because as a man that must have suffered abuse for his learning problems as a child, he should know better than to be so patronising about other people's intelligence...yet that has become one of his defining personality characteristics


... and when given a bit of power and back up, he has shown he can be equally as vicious as the people that must have once ridiculed him Roll Eyes


Hear , hear Clapping
FM
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Originally posted by subatomic partygirl:
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Originally posted by DanceSettee:
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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
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Originally posted by Forest:
I can't stand Freddie, never have, I dislike him for several reasons: I find him insincere, manipulative, condescending, full of bullshit half the time and pompous. This has nothing to do with whether he has a disability and its a weak and easy argument to try to defend or justify his actions because of it and that of why someone might not hold him in high esteem.

Sure, he may have problems with his speech or may deal with situations differently to others, but he has made it through Oxford and it seems that he may have a promising career in politics. Its not held him back in any way so why should I judge him differently negatively or positively based on that. It's condescending.


Perhaps a bit of empathy and compassion for another human being suffering, might not be a bad thing.


I did feel sorry for him last night having a panic attack, I know what that feels like and he has my sympathy. Frowner

However it did highlight how little his particular dyslexia is affected by stress. Dyslexia is often associated with short term memory deficit, but remember how he was able to reel back what Bea had said to him verbatim...very impressive, no sign of stress affecting his communication skills there at all.
The later episode where he was struggling could be equally attributed to an anxiety attack.

Yes dyslexia can be a debilitating condition as far as learning is concerned, but it's not an over arching explanation for a man being a pompous twat...which Freddy is most of the time, and I agree with what Forest said above Thumbs Up

Using dyslexia to excuse his behaviour is an insult to other people with dyslexia who don't behave this way.

Freddy irritates me because as a man that must have suffered abuse for his learning problems as a child, he should know better than to be so patronising about other people's intelligence...yet that has become one of his defining personality characteristics


... and when given a bit of power and back up, he has shown he can be equally as vicious as the people that must have once ridiculed him Roll Eyes


I have to agree with a lot that's said here and what Tupps said; the Dundee model states the spectrum of symptoms that may appear in the various forms (and there are many) of dyslexia but we have no access to which are affecting Freddie's behaviour. In addition, anxiety (and depression) or susceptibility to them are co-morbid with virtually every psychopathological condition known (organic or not).

By attributing all his quirky behaviours to his condition we're in danger of objectifying him as his condition. He's a human being with a wide range of personality traits (good and bad) including those that may be driven by his dyslexia. We can't easily determine which are and which aren't. The 'ahhs and ummm's'? He does that even when eating or drinking or no conversation is occurring. It may be a non-verbal vehicle for expressing his happiness / contentment or it may be just a non-dyslexia associated habit. Who knows? I know a couple of (non-dyslexic) people who do that. It annoys his HMs though and, given his intelligence and undoubted sensitivity to social situations in other ways, he might consider amending it.

I'm under no doubt that his dyslexia will affect his information processing, his receptive and expressive language and that these things have a knock on effect...and that he's a nice enough bloke but, (and he's by no means the only person in there guilty of this), he seems hyperacutely aware of the socio-emotional behaviours of his HMs but doesn't, perhaps, take enough time to consider the impact of his own little foibles on others. In that way he's no different to Marcus, Bea, Lisa, David, Charlie....et al.

Having said all that, last noight's performance by Bea was astonishingly, clinically, ruthless and quite cruel. She seemed (seems) to thrive on capitalising on his weak points to her social advantage. She's intelligent, isn't she? She saw the visible signs of fairly acute and severe distress in him yet continued. Even her re-appearance in the bedroom to console him seemed, to me, more strategic ("Look everyone, I DO care about him. Nice me!") than truly compassionate.

She's not a very nice person, and, as Siavash said, Freddie needs to recognise this (rather than cling to his imitial impression of her being a soulamte) and learn to detach himself emotionally from her. I hope that this morning he has gained a little clarity and resilience and feels better. Wasn't nice to see any human being like he was last night.


Excellent post Thumbs Up
M
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Originally posted by jennywren:
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Originally posted by tupps:
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Originally posted by jennywren:
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Originally posted by tupps:
Interesting information.. but it doesn't really tell me anything about Freddie. He may not tick any of the boxes, he may tick all of them.. but I don't know because I'm not close to him nor am I his GP. Neither would Bea know.. so it'd be unfair to judge her on something she couldn't let alone wouldn't know.


I think Bea would know. She's studied psychology.


Oh yeah.. you're right.. that would make her an expert.

I did a 3 week course on basic engine maintenance.. I won't be applying to the Formula 1 pit crew any time soon though.


She may or may not have come across dyslexia as a psychological condition during her studies. I don't know. But she will have come across emotional reaction and difficulties. She is not using this knowledge to understand people, but to abuse them.


To be fair to her,she might only have touched upon dyslexia as a tiny part of her cognitive module.....even teachers have very little understanding of it.

All I can tell you is I've worked with a few dyslexics over the years..and as Jamie said earlier theres probably a spectrum of disability as in autism.Certainly in my experience,dyslexia is not necessarily associated with poor cognitive ability or processing.One of the quickest and most verbally articulate children I worked with is profoundly dyslexic and indeed uses verbal communication as a strategy to avoid the written word at all costs!!
So,in fairness to Bea she would only be able to respond to Freddie as she finds him and not because of his condition...which is how it should be with any individual.
M

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