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Oh Freddie! You wily little manipulator!

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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:
When I see Freddie talking to people he comes across as quite a hazy kind of guy covering all the bases ier likes both sexes, non confrontational and yet quite opinionated - but hesitant "I dunno", looking up at the heavens as though he can see Jesus Himself floating down on a harp whilst simultaneously rubbing the back of a girl's neck in such a "distracted" manner she could be forgiven for thinking he is unaware of it. He is aware of it. In the Diary room he made not one blunder or pause as he nominated his choices. He was direct and quite animated!
He is also intelligent enought o know that not everyone likes bolied eggs actually and some might be offended by the use of them in a salad. Why didn't he just leave it as the vegetables? Adding egg was a deliberate act of provocativeness to see what reaction would occur. He could claim he was being nice and helpful and no one could argue with him but at the same time he could get tension mounting because he has added an ingreient not everyone likes.
He was quite forthright about his feelings for Sree in the garden after nominations, but nobody else joined in and he started to back peddle.

Oh Freddie! You wily little manipulator!

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Originally posted by Teddy Bleads:
I don't see how egg salad can be construed as offensive.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Summer_Breeze:
When I see Freddie talking to people he comes across as quite a hazy kind of guy covering all the bases ier likes both sexes, non confrontational and yet quite opinionated - but hesitant "I dunno", looking up at the heavens as though he can see Jesus Himself floating down on a harp whilst simultaneously rubbing the back of a girl's neck in such a "distracted" manner she could be forgiven for thinking he is unaware of it. He is aware of it. In the Diary room he made not one blunder or pause as he nominated his choices. He was direct and quite animated!
He is also intelligent enought o know that not everyone likes bolied eggs actually and some might be offended by the use of them in a salad. Why didn't he just leave it as the vegetables? Adding egg was a deliberate act of provocativeness to see what reaction would occur. He could claim he was being nice and helpful and no one could argue with him but at the same time he could get tension mounting because he has added an ingreient not everyone likes.
He was quite forthright about his feelings for Sree in the garden after nominations, but nobody else joined in and he started to back peddle.

Oh Freddie! You wily little manipulator!

I cannot believe that Freddy is getting slagged off for making the HM's a salad and having the audacity to put boiled eggs in the salad What an evil man he must be

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Originally posted by longcat:
I think it had more to do with the fact he made a house meal without asking anybody if they wanted it. He decided what they were all having and used the ingredients.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by longcat:
I think it had more to do with the fact he made a house meal without asking anybody if they wanted it. He decided what they were all having and used the ingredients.

Again, how dare he think of others and make them a salad

Ungrateful bunch of ingrates.

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I don't eat eggs lol, I would have been offended and said to him "Oh Freddy - I can't eat that lovely salad now as you have put yucky boiled eggs in it!" then burst out crying, run off to my room, sulked then gone back to ask him for a hug and perhaps one egg - just to try.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by longcat:
I think it had more to do with the fact he made a house meal without asking anybody if they wanted it. He decided what they were all having and used the ingredients.

Again, how dare he think of others and make them a salad

Ungrateful bunch of ingrates.

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Originally posted by HyacinthB:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by longcat:
I think it had more to do with the fact he made a house meal without asking anybody if they wanted it. He decided what they were all having and used the ingredients.

Again, how dare he think of others and make them a salad

Ungrateful bunch of ingrates.

I so agree Lassie. Personally, I would have been grateful to him for having saved me the bother.

Besides, the eggs weren't actually in with the salad, they were in a separate bowl and Cairon helped himself to three!!

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Originally posted by Blackpudlian:

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I don't eat eggs lol, I would have been offended and said to him "Oh Freddy - I can't eat that lovely salad now as you have put yucky boiled eggs in it!" then burst out crying, run off to my room, sulked then gone back to ask him for a hug and perhaps one egg - just to try.

I think I need a bit of clarification.
Would you have been "offended" or just disappointed to find eggs in the salad?
Would you have been devastated to find onion in the salad?
Should he have put all the ingredients in the salad in separate dishes and run the risk of people self harming because of the extra washing up?

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Is it not possible to pick out the bits of Salad that you do not wish to eat? I am forever chucking celery off my plate.

Having said that - still don't like Freddie.

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Originally posted by Hollygolightly:

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Originally posted by HyacinthB:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by longcat:
I think it had more to do with the fact he made a house meal without asking anybody if they wanted it. He decided what they were all having and used the ingredients.

Again, how dare he think of others and make them a salad

Ungrateful bunch of ingrates.

I so agree Lassie. Personally, I would have been grateful to him for having saved me the bother.

Besides, the eggs weren't actually in with the salad, they were in a separate bowl and Cairon helped himself to three!!

Agree with you and LL Hyacinth. How can being kind to his hm's be turned around as him being manipulative and sneaky. sighs..I don't know what the world is coming to

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Originally posted by The Singing Ringing Tree:
I have met many men like Freddie. He is a manipulator who pertends to be passive but is not. He went to boarding school so he knows fully well that making food for large groups of people causes problem. and there is always friction. He is trying to win by being the nice lame duck. He is a player.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by The Singing Ringing Tree:
I have met many men like Freddie. He is a manipulator who pertends to be passive but is not. He went to boarding school so he knows fully well that making food for large groups of people causes problem. and there is always friction. He is trying to win by being the nice lame duck. He is a player.

I don't think that entered his head at all. If he didn't do anything, people would be moaning because he sits on his backside and does nothing.

He did a thoughtful thing and people are calling him the devil incarnate

Perhaps he should have just made himself something to eat. Oh no wait, he would've got slagged off for being selfish and only making himself something

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Originally posted by Pengy:

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Originally posted by Pengy:

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Originally posted by Dobby the House Elf:
I also think the BIG question is ...

Was there beetroot in the salad?

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Originally posted by brisket:
I think he was simply trying to be kind.

After Charlie`s complaint I liked Freddie`s remark:
"Sorry, were you going to use the lettuce for something else."
Good one Freddie.

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Dobby the House Elf:
I also think the BIG question is ...

Was there beetroot in the salad?

God forbid Dobby if there was, there are alot of people out there who don't like it

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Originally posted by Amythist:
He is a bit naive in the ways of the world,and especially commoners.Hes not used to aggressive neck rollers getting all stroppy about the use of salad ingredients or hard boiled eggs.Brought up in boarding school,you eat whats put in front of you ,you cant afford to be picky,food is food.

Also he wanted to do something nice ,for everyone,and he wants to be liked.He said so,thats not devious or manipulative when you put your cards on the table like that.

Hes a bit of a space case and pretty eccentric compared to most of the others who probably havent come across an aria before.He didnt think he was going to offend anyone by making a meal,and it says a lot about their petty narrow minds to get upset ,ungrateful lot!

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Originally posted by Dobby the House Elf:

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Dobby the House Elf:
I also think the BIG question is ...

Was there beetroot in the salad?

God forbid Dobby if there was, there are alot of people out there who don't like it

Hmmm, might have to email Freddie and mention to him that Zaph doesn't like beetroot - what do you think?

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Originally posted by Kaytee:
As we have no LF, itm is impossible to determine how irritating/ badly done to Freddy has actually been .....so based on the little that C4 have allowed us to see. I think he's been badly done to by the other FMs......but I could easily be wrong....because I only have edited highlights to go on

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Adding egg was a deliberate act of provocativeness

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Originally posted by Liverpoollass:

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Originally posted by Kaytee:
As we have no LF, itm is impossible to determine how irritating/ badly done to Freddy has actually been .....so based on the little that C4 have allowed us to see. I think he's been badly done to by the other FMs......but I could easily be wrong....because I only have edited highlights to go on

I agree about the LF. Anything could be happening to totally change our perceptions about each HM.

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Originally posted by watchinittoomuch:

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Adding egg was a deliberate act of provocativeness

That's the funniest thing I've read all day