he needs to stay and she needs to leave long before him

Come Friday night and if Freddie stays she will be the one in panic.

No - he needs to stay as that will give him back some self -esteem. Siavash will look after him and keep him away from the Beatch. Freddie needs to be in the house when the Beatch is evicted and then he will go on to win, God willing and everything crossed

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Originally posted by Jeggo:
I`m serious - I think that woman is doing him serious harm.

I'm not sure he's strong enough now Lisa's got Bea on side, I'm beginning to think next week could be awful for him!

He needs to stay - it'll give him a bit of a boost, make him feel stronger again.

I think he should go as well but that would be for my sanity.

He needs to stay and watch the look on Lisa and Beas faces when he stays!

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Originally posted by Azure:
I think he should go as well but that would be for my sanity.

I wish he wouldn't respond to her when she starts. He can never get his point across cos she usually talks over him or belittles him. Siavash told him the other night to stay quiet and not be drawn into anything.

God, what a night, I feel depressed myself now it was such uncomfortable viewing. I usually watch it again on E4 but I can't face it again

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Originally posted by Clipboard:
I wish he wouldn't respond to her when she starts. He can never get his point across cos she usually talks over him or belittles him. Siavash told him the other night to stay quiet and not be drawn into anything.

God, what a night, I feel depressed myself now it was such uncomfortable viewing. I usually watch it again on E4 but I can't face it again

Yep - he seems so naive, thinking he can win her round with reason and kindness. He should just avoid her.

I feel totally drained watching it tonight as well,

He needs to go... I fear for my tellybox..

If he survives this week, Bea's nagged him all the way to the final

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Originally posted by Jeggo:

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Originally posted by Clipboard:
I wish he wouldn't respond to her when she starts. He can never get his point across cos she usually talks over him or belittles him. Siavash told him the other night to stay quiet and not be drawn into anything.

God, what a night, I feel depressed myself now it was such uncomfortable viewing. I usually watch it again on E4 but I can't face it again

Yep - he seems so naive, thinking he can win her round with reason and kindness. He should just avoid her.

I feel totally drained watching it tonight as well,

I hope he stays on Friday as Siavash will help keep his spirits up and he will have pulled himself together enough to sit back and chill (not fighting anybodys battles) which is how he was when Bea first went in. It was then and ONLY then that the others accepted him

However I look at it, I think he should go.

If I go with the 'poor freddie' train of thought, then yes, he should go if its that bad.

Or if I stick to my guns, be at peace with not liking him, and not thinking he should win big brother because of his weaknesses, then I think he should go

And yet I have to wonder if I am wrong, being in the minority for feeling like this!

No doubt that I'm gonna be told I am bad and wrong and all that!

I thought Freddie would go this week but Bea has now insured he will stay ,also I dont think she actually nominated him .. did she .

Bea has put Freddie's name on the winning cheque with her behaviour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
I thought Freddie would go this week but Bea has now insured he will stay ,also I dont think she actually nominated him .. did she .

No she didn't nominate him she nominated Marcus and David

The only person who will have his back is siavash and no harm to him,that would not fill me with joy

The only good thing is freddie can get over it and stand up for himself like the old days,that made people like him and see him in a better light and could make him a real contender again for winner.

Bea will maybe realise she has gone to far and start sucking up again and i hope he does not fall for it or he will be back to square one,with no marcus to put him straight.

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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
However I look at it, I think he should go.

If I go with the 'poor freddie' train of thought, then yes, he should go if its that bad.

Or if I stick to my guns, be at peace with not liking him, and not thinking he should win big brother because of his weaknesses, then I think he should go

And yet I have to wonder if I am wrong, being in the minority for feeling like this!

No doubt that I'm gonna be told I am bad and wrong and all that!

I feel much the same. I`m not that keen on Freddie any more - but I do fear for his sanity and no human being deserves that tirade.

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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
However I look at it, I think he should go.

If I go with the 'poor freddie' train of thought, then yes, he should go if its that bad.

Or if I stick to my guns, be at peace with not liking him, and not thinking he should win big brother because of his weaknesses, then I think he should go

And yet I have to wonder if I am wrong, being in the minority for feeling like this!

No doubt that I'm gonna be told I am bad and wrong and all that!

Ok it was all a bit OTT and she was kicking him when he was down BUT, essentially, if you strip it down, he asked her whether she thought he'd 'picked on Lisa, (which a significant no. of people think he did,) she told him that she was thought he was being negative,(which he has been) and that she didn't want to be sleeping next to him, (i.e. no more touchy/feelies or late night psychoanalysis.) That as far as I can see was about it! Oh apart from she's confirmed to Team Lisa what they thought about him already, it didn't take Bea to do that for them , they've thought it for yonks.

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think he should go as well but that would be for my sanity.

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Originally posted by Jeggo:

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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
However I look at it, I think he should go.

If I go with the 'poor freddie' train of thought, then yes, he should go if its that bad.

Or if I stick to my guns, be at peace with not liking him, and not thinking he should win big brother because of his weaknesses, then I think he should go

And yet I have to wonder if I am wrong, being in the minority for feeling like this!

No doubt that I'm gonna be told I am bad and wrong and all that!

I feel much the same. I`m not that keen on Freddie any more - but I do fear for his sanity and no human being deserves that tirade.

I started to type my feelings. But I think I'm gonna go play an online game or something tonight!

Let things settle down!

I keep reminding myself... its only Big Brother... let it gooooo Ditty!

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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
However I look at it, I think he should go.

If I go with the 'poor freddie' train of thought, then yes, he should go if its that bad.

Or if I stick to my guns, be at peace with not liking him, and not thinking he should win big brother because of his weaknesses, then I think he should go

And yet I have to wonder if I am wrong, being in the minority for feeling like this!

No doubt that I'm gonna be told I am bad and wrong and all that!

I'm with ya. I don't hate the guy, I don't even strongly dislike him, in fact I'm pretty neutral.. but I know what I like in a HM I want to entertain me in some way and there are too many things about him and his behaviour that just don't make it into that camp for me. As a HM I am now finding him affected and tedious.

I'd like to think BB will have the psychiatrist come in for a chat with Freddy.

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
However I look at it, I think he should go.

If I go with the 'poor freddie' train of thought, then yes, he should go if its that bad.

Or if I stick to my guns, be at peace with not liking him, and not thinking he should win big brother because of his weaknesses, then I think he should go

And yet I have to wonder if I am wrong, being in the minority for feeling like this!

No doubt that I'm gonna be told I am bad and wrong and all that!

I'm with ya. I don't hate the guy, I don't even strongly dislike him, in fact I'm pretty neutral.. but I know what I like in a HM I want to entertain me in some way and there are too many things about him and his behaviour that just don't make it into that camp for me. As a HM I am now finding him affected and tedious.

But we are still the minority!

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Originally posted by ~LEE~:
I'd like to think BB will have the psychiatrist come in for a chat with Freddy.

Good point, I forgot about that. I think everyone is offered that kind of support when they think it's needed.

Ditty.....whatchoo on about Why would anyone (other than a nob) slate you for having an opinion on a BB HM?

FWIW, I think he should go too. He's done enough to deserve his week of post-BB spotlight. Unless he wins outright, he won't get as much attention in the final week as he would if he goes on Friday.

Problem is, I believe Bea's just handed him a place in the Final. Shades of Lisa-style ostracising all over again

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Originally posted by erinp:
Come Friday night and if Freddie stays she will be the one in panic.

Absolutely. Team Nasty will have to regroup then anyway, so we'll see who is up. If it's Freddie against Bea, I think it's a foregone conclusion.

Freddie is a great hm, there is nothing wrong with his sanity, nothing wrong with seeing him so upset, the only thing wrong is Bea, nothing nice about her, nothing interesting about her.

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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:

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Originally posted by tupps:

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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
However I look at it, I think he should go.

If I go with the 'poor freddie' train of thought, then yes, he should go if its that bad.

Or if I stick to my guns, be at peace with not liking him, and not thinking he should win big brother because of his weaknesses, then I think he should go

And yet I have to wonder if I am wrong, being in the minority for feeling like this!

No doubt that I'm gonna be told I am bad and wrong and all that!

I'm with ya. I don't hate the guy, I don't even strongly dislike him, in fact I'm pretty neutral.. but I know what I like in a HM I want to entertain me in some way and there are too many things about him and his behaviour that just don't make it into that camp for me. As a HM I am now finding him affected and tedious.

But we are still the minority!

Ah well.. I have no allegiances to any particular HM.. the only reason why I want one to win is because I stuck a bet on them on launch night. I don't feel protective toward any of them and I don't feel any real animosity toward any of them. Call it as you see it/feel it on any given day. Makes it easier if you ask me.

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Originally posted by Azure:
I think he should go as well but that would be for my sanity.

Why would you prefer to see Lisa and David smoke all day, Charlie and Rodrigo fight and make up and Sophie scratching her head?

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Originally posted by evviva!:
Ditty.....whatchoo on about Why would anyone (other than a nob) slate you for having an opinion on a BB HM?

FWIW, I think he should go too. He's done enough to deserve his week of post-BB spotlight. Unless he wins outright, he won't get as much attention in the final week as he would if he goes on Friday.

Problem is, I believe Bea's just handed him a place in the Final Shades of Lisa-style ostracising all over again

The kids are at my mum's tonight, so I haven't got my daughter next to me,balancing out the majority forum opinion.

I am avoiding threads like the plague Deegs... I tried to hold back from posting all together... but failed!

My opinion isn't the pc one... I don't think I totally lack empathy or anything... its just I think he should sort it out! (edited that sentence about a million times!)

And... if it really is that bad... then he should leave, its only a game show!

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Originally posted by Marguerita:
I thought Freddie would go this week but Bea has now insured he will stay ,also I dont think she actually nominated him .. did she .

No, she nominated David about 10 minutes after she told him he was safe because nobody would vote for him.

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Originally posted by tupps:

Ah well.. I have no allegiances to any particular HM.. the only reason why I want one to win is because I stuck a bet on them on launch night. I don't feel protective toward any of them and I don't feel any real animosity toward any of them. Call it as you see it/feel it on any given day. Makes it easier if you ask me.

I have money on all the originals. I do every year, on Betfair. I got fab odds on most of them on opening night, had to wait but eventually managed to get the rest also. Its been a fab BB in betting terms.

I am 'in the green' on them all, to varying degrees.

Siavash is my biggest earner! (if he wins... Mo gets a laptop and Mr Ditty & I get a weekend in London)

Ditty....you're right about his need to "sort it out", and not be a crybaby.

But he is exactly that, isn't he? An overgrown baby, who has yet to experience some life's hard knocks. From what I've read he lives in a magical 70-room mansion, with doting and liberal-minded parents, and spends a lot of his time just chillin & having sex & singing.

He was never gonne be ready for the "force-majeure" that is Bea, piddling acid all over him!

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Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
I have money on all the originals. I do every year, on Betfair. I got fab odds on most of them on opening night, had to wait but eventually managed to get the rest also. Its been a fab BB in betting terms.

I am 'in the green' on them all, to varying degrees.

Siavash is my biggest earner! (if he wins... Mo gets a laptop and Mr Ditty & I get a weekend in London)

Yeah.. I'm in the green too.. that's the starting point and it moves around accordingly..

I put money on Siavash.. he looked the most interesting..

From watching tonight's show I got the distinct impression that Freddie had asked to leave the house. Thats what I thought when watching him the diary room.