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That's quite disgraceful if true. It's similar to what happened to us with Joe Cole except nobody actually wanted him unless they got him for free. Also, Joe Cole never said he wanted out, his contract just ran out because nobody came in to buy him, I can't see that being the case with Rooney. Interesting, but bizarre scenario.
Its true, when a player is in contract they can choose who to sell him to.  Also after Bosman etc etc a player also has to agree to the club he is being sold to and he always has the option of waiting for his contract to end or buy it out if thats a clause.  However you cant just buy out your contract the club has to agree to it and they may not if they know he will go to City, unless its one of those you can buy out for x amount of money.

It sounds bad that a club can dictate to some extent what club a player goes to but that is the price a player pays for being guaranteed a nice wage for 3-4 years or however long the contract is.  As said above its a long time to be sitting on the bench so he may have to play abroad for a couple of years.  In Joe Coles case once he is a free agent he can go wherever he wants and there is no transfer fee so he can benefit from that too as a club can give a signing bonus in that case.
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I dug around the FIFA website at the time and found all the stipulations involved. From memory (so some of this could be a little off), Rooney would have to be past the three year mark since his last contract extension in order to effectively cancel his contract without any kind of disciplinary action. If he's inside that three year period then he could be banned from playing for a few months if he attempted to do it. The compensation owed to Man Utd would be determined by a FIFA tribunal and it would take into account the time remaining on the contract.
Oh thats interesting thanks, also dont forget any breaking of a contract can also be challenged in court outside of the football tribunals.  Not something I would expect him to do as I think in both cases they would fall on the side of United compensation wise.
CaptVimes
Spurs and their utterly clueless manager are finding out why some teams are really far better off  not getting into the CL at all. Liverpool are blessed not to be playing CL football while being relegation strugglers in the PL.

Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal and City are the new PL top four and probably the teams we'll see in the CL next season. Spurs might make the Europa and Liverpool, well, they probably won't have to worry about it since they'll be in the Championship anyway.

Mystic Prom sees the future of footy same time same place next week don't miss it folks.
Prometheus
Grim news for Portsmouth - from the BBC a short time ago:

Portsmouth say they are likely to fold as they are unable to continue trading after talks with former owner and key creditor Sacha Gaydamak broke down.

The club claim that Gaydamak demanded an upfront cash payment to facilate a possible deal to go through and allow them to exit administration.

"It appears likely that the club will now be closed down and liquidated by the administrators," said Pompey.

Earlier in October the club's latest plan to exit administration was vetoed.

That proposal was blocked by the Football League on the grounds that they wanted clarification on four issues before handing Pompey's golden share back.

The Championship club went into administration in February with debts of around Β£120m.

The first Premier League club to suffer that ignominy Pompey were then docked nine points and were subsequently relegated.

Gaydamak was Portsmouth's owner between 2006 and 2009 before selling the club to Sulaiman Al Fahim.

"Despite the new owners fulfilling all the requirements of the Football League and the creditors, and agreeing and signing up to the required terms of the purchase of the club, at the 11th hour the goalposts have been moved by Gaydamak," said Pompey in a statement.

El Loro
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I, on the say so of a Grauniad pundit, put several poond on Arsenal to win the title, last year and this.
Well that was a waste of money and there were precious few that did, Hansen even suggested the possibility of relegation which makes Liverpools situation at the moment all the sweeter.  It was all Everton, Liverpool, Man U, Chelsea, City oooh maybe even Birmingham with their new money.  They hardly mentioned Spurs either.
CaptVimes
It didn't seem like a waste of cash at the time! Arsenal looked an exciting footballing team, and now that they actually have someone who can dish it out too......
 Hasn't turned out that way as it happens. Who would have thought that City would have teamed up that quickly? One hoped that one of the debt ridden Lancashire teams would collapse, and one hoped that Chelsea would fail big time.
Back to the drawing board.
Garage Joe
Yea about this time last year we were looking really good before Van Persie got crocked.  Was more thinking before the season started.  Always our problem at the moment, injuries.

I suspect some arab will come swooping in to rescue the Lancastrians once the inevitable happens.  Really makes a mockery of it when I remember that Brighton was saved by a local pizza restaurant and later by Fatboy slim along with Dick Knight.
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Not a bad result considering we were 10 men down from first few mins. Im confident had we had 11 men on the pitch we would of won. We managed to create two chances in 4 mins from the kick off.

We were screwed right from the sending off and the tactics/changes were dreadful. I don't think its wise to throw in an 18 year old who is still learning the game into the starting line-up, he was lucky during the Chelsea game aswell. Give it another year or two and Boyata will be ready... but for now we need all the experience we can get during these big games.


Think the fans could question one or two changes... Bridge on for Yaya Toure? The game was crying for A.Johnson, there was loads of space down that right hand side today. We should of taken either Barry or Milner off and sent on AJ. Just wasnt clicking. He should prob even be starting.

Hart, Boateng and Silva were top.

Arsenal deserved the win... but 3-0 is a harsh result.


P.S. Fabregas is a tw*t... waving for a yellow card? Was hoping De Jong would snap him in half.
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P.S. Fabregas is a tw*t... waving for a yellow card? Was hoping De Jong would snap him in half.
I always find it funny that fans, commentators and pundits complain about players doing this. The same fans who complain probably sit in the stands shouting OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF. What's the difference? I do it at footie matches and I don't necessarily blame players for doing it either.
Crunchy  Nuts
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I always find it funny that fans, commentators and pundits complain about players doing this. The same fans who complain probably sit in the stands shouting OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF. What's the difference? I do it at footie matches and I don't necessarily blame players for doing it either.
He's a paid professional who should stick to playing football... not trying to cheat and influence a refs decision. He was making the refs job more difficult and when that starts the opposition players end up in the refs face every time a foul is made hoping that they get a card.
MrMincePie
unless they introduce an outright law that says you cannot appeal, complain or try to influence the refs decision in any other way then I can't see what the problem is. I know they tried to bring some sort of rule where only the captain is allowed to talk to the ref, but that was just pointless and I don't even know if that rule is actually being enforced?
Crunchy  Nuts
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You say he shouldn't be trying to influence a refs decision, so is that the same when Man City players crowd round the referee every time a foul is committed by an Arsenal player? Unless they introduce an outright law that says you cannot appeal, complain or try to influence the refs decision in any other way then I can't see what the problem is. I know they tried to bring some sort of rule where only the captain is allowed to talk to the ref, but that was just pointless and I don't even know if that rule is actually being enforced?
I just said that when a player starts waving an imaginary card in a refs face, the opposition (Us in this case) start doing it and thats exactly what happened. Fabregas was in the refs face and the next tackle after Barry was up doing the same. Its f*cking pathetic, especially if your supposed to be the captain... keep your team under control, get your team back into position and let the ref deal with it. He shouldnt be having to tell the players to back off.
MrMincePie
Well it's never going to happen. When you're in a game and the adrenalin is pumping, it's very difficult to just get up and let the ref deal with it when you're fouled or whatever and hope that he gives the correct decision. Likewise when you think the ref is a clown and he is making clown like decisions, it's very difficult to stand there and let the ref get on with it. I know this from playing football myself,  but I could imagine it's probably a hundred times more intense playing professional football with a crowd surrounding you etc.
Crunchy  Nuts

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