We were talking about Chelsea players scoring. Malouda didn't score. Drogba has contributed a lot without scoring in the PL, same as Torres but you can't see through the hate to notice any of it. If Drogba had passed for that second attempt someone had a tap-in. Another problem: too many players playing as individuals instead of playing as a team which many people have correctly pointed out is exactly why Torres is having problems. Like I said, I know exactly what is going on at Chelsea, you don't. It's really best you just stick to knocking Torres you don't strike me as someone who understands football at all.

Think what you will Prom, I really couldn't give a shit. I won't comment on Chelsea again on here as its obviously such a massive problem for you. Good Luck.

Okay Wilkins says Torres was the managers buy.

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He did, but I'm not really sure it matters who wanted him, he's a great player. It hasn't worked out how we'd hoped obviously though I think our set-up and attitude is more to blame for that than he is.

absolutely agree................best thing for nando and for us is to get this season over.......pre season with us...and he'll be flying next year.get shot of the dead wood and get a manager in who knows how to bring the best out of the players and get them performing as a team not as individuals..

i'm beginning to wonder if wilkins was behind our success last season and first part of this one.....once he went c.a didn't appear to have a clue

We've gone steadily downhill since he left. In his place we got a bloke whose only qualification is coaching an under 12 girls team in America. It could only happen at Chelsea.

kalou would fit in well in an under 12 girls team..........

next year eh prom??..........one day.........

oh and just how sulky and uninterested did kalou look when he was waiting to come on??.......he looked like he didn't want to get on the pitch........that's the exact attitude you were talking to river rock about prom.

How do you think the weekend will go Veggie? We owe you after Arshavin turned on his 4 goal masterclass 2 years ago  

I feel sorry for Kalou. He means well but the term 'headless chicken' was invented just for him. Yep, next year spongey. This season's over for us but I have a feeling Roman will be active in the summer. We need a new bloody midfield. We've lost the battle, the war has only just begun 

Well pleased with that performance. Giggsy is just class! Park is underrated, Carrick had another good game and Hernandez showing again that the £7 million was a bargain. Nani is always a threat but wish he'd cut out the theatrics..

Commiserations Spongey, Jensen, Prom etc, looks like a summer of regrouping again but IMO would be disappointing if Roman decided to get rid of Carlo? he's done his best since taking over and the players have to take more responsibility for how things have ended up.. Torres well he'll come back to form at some point and it's up to his fellow players, training staff etc to boost his confidence and sort him out.

Morning all

Couldn't get the reply button to work last night  Hugs to Prom, CS, Spongey and the Chelsea mob, know how you are feeling. I got it badly wrong, I honestly thought that you would win and Torres would rediscover his form.

As to Torres being the managers buy; I dunno about that. I think that Roman was stung by all the criticism that he had lost interest etc and just went mad. Torres is a great player and will come good. Form is temporary, class is permanent. Like us Chelsea need a big clear out in the summer, too many players happy to pick up the cheque for nowt.

Dunno, we have been so poor recently that it's embarrassing. Word is that RVP and Diaby had a punch up in the DR at half time. I can believe it judging by how bad we were in the first part of the 2nd half against Blackpool. Hopefully Szczeney will be back so we should be more solid at the back but I don't fancy our defence against Suarez and Carroll.

Just to jump into the Torres argument, you do sound really bitter about him. I can understand that though because I am still bitter about Cashley and the way he and Chelsea screwed us over. I desperately wanted him to fail every time he took to the pitch, still do if truth is told.

Just admit it

Forgot to say that I'm going down to Tooting tonight to watch our Ladies in their opening WSL game against Chelsea.

C'mon the Gooners

I'm really not, I'm past that stage honest to god, when both Carroll and Suarez hit the ground running any longings I had for he who shall not be named evaporated. Everything I have said about him I stand by and nothing changes over the course of the match last night. I think its hilarious how things have panned out, its sort of like your partner leaving you but you see them a couple of months later and they have gotten fat, but your new partner is totally streamline!!

Big test for both teams, you defence will have to cope with the aerial threat of Carroll, our defence wasn't really tested by city on Monday night, but I hope we can give it a good last. With Tevez out for City probably the rest of the season and Spurs stuttering we might as well try and capitalise on it, its a long shot but worth a try! 

You know I don't often comment on here because I am not a true football fan. I know this to be correct because IMO Carroll is an ignorant stupid arrogant thug who, if he did not have a talent for football would probably be doing time by now.

How anyone can laud him is beyond me. Same as Rooney, same as most of the PL players.

So that is why I cannot really like football. Carroll does not deserve anything at all - he has a basic lack of respect for people and yet because he is a talented sportsman this will be forgiven.

It is all WRONG I tell you.

We have Arsenal players at a local school today, "damn not sure I double locked my windows"

A local lad died suddenly aged 17, his class mates are attempting to get in the Guiness Book Of Records for the longest 5-a-side match,They plan to go around 38 hours.Started Monday evening, Someone wrote to the club, they donated something, and offered to send someone along, I've got a spell time keeping later, as well as another spell witnessing.

I'm sure we've been through this before. I've been going for nearly 50 years and football has always had it's share of criminals, and those guilty of moral turpitude.

The chances of someone with a first from Oxbridge, and kind to children and  animals is zero.

I know we have and I am not saying they should have a first from oxford etc - besides we know what sort of criminals the well educated can produce.

I am saying that no one - rich, poor, young, old, intelligent or not so much, should be rewarded for bad behaviour - no matter how talented they are.All it does is give them a sense that they are infallible and above the law....

maybe some players fit into the mentioned categories Joe, most unlikely, they wouldn't get the publicity if they did. I must day, since Rooney's outbust at Upton Park, in the 2 C/L ties, he's played some of the best football I've seen him play, Shame he can never seem to do it for the National side.

Tweet from Danny Baker this morning...

Harry Redknapp: "Champions League progress is not impossible".

Quite right, Harry. Neither is time travel.

I'm just jokin' yer mind. I tend to agree. Yet footballers are just like any other product of our society. Something went wrong somewhere in the late seventies/early eighties.

At the end of the day, most people in any position of power and success have done wrong in the past, how many MPs, Presidents actors etc have criminal records? Its not exclusive to footballers. Lads like Carroll and Rooney have been stupid in the past, too much money and too much success in a short space of time can go to your head, both came from pretty humble backgrounds as well. I'm not defending them but everyone deserves a chance to make amends.

He's not all bad, and he is using his fame and wealth to help others.

He may have left Newcastle behind in January for £35million, but Liverpool striker Andy Carroll offered a succession of kind-hearted reminders that his loyalties lie firmly in his native North-East.

A day after saving a ladies' football side in Gateshead with a kit sponsorship of £500, the former Newcastle star helped raise over £4,000 for local charities in an emotional homecoming to Tyneside.

The 22-year-old, who became the record British transfer signing when he arrived at Anfield on deadline day, stumped up £900 to land a signed Kevin Nolan shirt in an auction - before handing it as a gift to the supporter he outbidded.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/spo...t.html#ixzz1JP3ej2s0

Many footballers have set up foundations and charities in their name to help others:

Drogba:

On 24 January 2007, Drogba was appointed by the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) as a Goodwill Ambassador. The UNDP were impressed with his previous charity work and believed that his high profile would help raise awareness on African issues. Drogba's charity work continued when, in late 2009, he announced he would be donating the 3 million GBP signing on fee for his endorsement of Pepsi for the construction of a hospital in his hometown of Abidjan. This work was done through Drogba's recently created "Didier Drogba Foundation" and Chelsea announced they too would donate the fee for the deal toward the Foundation's project. Drogba decided on building the hospital after a recent trip to the Ivorian capital's other hospitals, saying "...I decided the Foundation's first project should be to build and fund a hospital giving people basic healthcare and a chance just to stay alive."

Dirk Kuyt:

http://www.dirkkuytfoundation.nl/

Jamie Carragher:

http://www.jamiecarragher23.co.uk/cw/JC23/pages/

Craig Bellamy:

http://www.craigbellamyfoundation.org/

Stephen Ireland:

http://www.stephenireland.com/charity/

And they are only ones off the top of my head, I'm sure there are many many more.

I did hear last week Danny Baker is about to return to work, glad he's coming back,

Just been reading Zabaleta's twitter, good to see the lad is fired up for saturday.

We got to go with:

--------------------Hart------------------

Boyata--Kompany--Lescott----Zaba

------------De Jong---Y.Toure--------

SWP--------------Silva-----------------AJ

-------------------Dzeko-------------------

If Mancini even tries what he did at Chelsea... it will be his head.

It's not impossible. If Spurs get a couple of goals in the first half and nick another early in the second Real will start to crumble. That's what I'm telling myself anyway to convince myself there's some point in watching the game 

I'll be watching this for Fast Harry facial expressions.

No-one does it better.

Respect to Iker Casillas for his reaction to Gomes' mistake. True professional and good sport.

A Real Madrid v Shalke final wouldn't go down too well at all with Twatini and Twatter. I'd like to see Man U go through though and wreck Barcelona whom I hate with a vengeance.

Man United wouldn't beat Barcelona if they played them 10 times in a row. I've said it before but I think out of the english sides, Man United are the least equipped to beat Barca purely because of their horsewank of a midfield. 

That said, I do fancy Mourinho to beat them over 2 legs again.

I can't agree about Man U Crunchy. One thing they'll do for sure is bring the game to Barca which Barca absolutely hate. They want everyone to roll over like Arsenal did (sorry Veggie) they hate when teams really go for them. They are in a better position to do that at the moment than we are. It takes us a bloody week to go from defence to attack. This Man U team has so many pacey players capable of scoring they only have to be up for it to give Barca a real run for their money.

Man United's midfield are incapable of keeping the ball when pressurised (which barca do) therefore will keep giving it to barcelona and not seeing the ball for another 5 minute spell. Look at the champions league final 2 years ago. Man United started off going right at them, then once barca's midfielders started pressing the likes of carrick and anderson, they kept gifting the ball back to barcelona. From there on Barcelona cruised through the rest of the game without having to really go at Man U, all they did was keep on putting pressure on the midfield wait for the inevitable of Man United giving the ball straight back to Barca, then giving them the run around for a bit. Man United had Cristiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney in attack that day as well as Carlos Tevez and Dimitar Berbatov in the 2nd half. The problem was that apart from a few flashes from Ronaldo in the first 10mins, these lads never got any supply from midfield.

Arsenal have good midfielders who can compete, tackle but also pass the ball quickly to feet, as did Chelsea when they nearly beat them 2 years ago. Arsenals downfall like you say was rolling over for them in the 2nd leg.

Like I say I can see Real Madrid finding a way past them over 2 legs, but also can't see Man United getting past Real Madrid in the final either.

They've already seen Arsenal off. Spurs are just not equipped to handle Barca at all despite this strange assumption by normally sane people that Bale is the best player who ever lived. We take too long to do anything at all, poncing about in midfield which won't bother Barca we are not the team we were the last time we played them. Man U are still best placed to beat them of all the English sides imo though I'm really disappointed in Arsenal who are equipped to terrorise them but Wenger hero worships them and was scared to even play football against them. A great manager in awe when he never should have been.

Still, fingers crossed for Man U now they'll go for it whatever the final outcome.

Of the teams left I'd live to see Real Madrid win it, but if they didn't I wouldn't be too annoyed if Barca did.

See Braga got through to the Semis of the Europa Cup, fair play to them.

Tomorrow is the 22nd Anniversary of Hillsborough, May their souls rest in pease and may justice for the 96 finally be done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_H7k45e0TU

Yes, whatever we think of football as a whole, this makes us all united doesn't it?