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Originally Posted by RiverRock:
Originally Posted by Prometheus:

 Our midfield is now too slow to play a lone striker unless we play hoofball which Drogba might get something out of but Torres would hate. We don't break fast enough any more for a lone striker to benefit. Lampard and Essien, both woeful for months now. They're not going anywhere so even a CL spot will be a huge bonus for me this season.

 

Ramires and Yossi can be the links from midfield, two up front isn't going to work unless its Drogba and Anelka, Torres has never played well as a second striker i.e Spain and Villa. He usually plays shit for Spain, but got MOM when he was up front on his own in Euro 08

 

Our attackers are not the problem. It doesn't matter if you have one or two up front if the strikers get no service. Torres had to make his own opportunities tonight, Drogba made nothing at all. Benayoun hasn't even had time to get used to our players. I'd rather have him than either Essien or Lampard though, one is wildly over-rated (Essien) and the other is absolutely fekkin useless unless you build the entire team around him, he has no natural skill or instinct (Lampard).

 

We don't have a midfield that can supply Torres or even Drogba and Anelka anymore.

Prometheus
Originally Posted by ッmufッ:
Originally Posted by Prometheus:
Originally Posted by MrMincePie:

Rumours are Rooney's ban reduced to one... taking a step back and looking at it. How can they hand a ban for swearing but nothing for a deliberate elbow?

 

Deliberate elbow 10 game ban. Swearing, nothing. My judgement. This is why I'll never get a job at the FA.

TBH if the FA want to bring in TV evidence the should, but it should be consistent!

Rooney was tried purely on TV evidence yet you can't use TV evidence if you are sent off after two yellows no-matter how unjust a decision

 

 

It was media uproar that forced that decision. It shouldn't even be up for consideration. Football player swears shock. Really? 

Prometheus
I agree with the Grauniad. "gabbled, meaningless incoherence directed at no-one and signifying nothing. Most people seem to have grasped this, but the FA have elected to take offence. This is the FA that permitted several clubs to be loaded with crippling debts and whose fit and proper person test was passed by human rights offender Thaksin Shinawatra......... This is a phoney controversy, manufactured by the self serving circle of greed, pomposity, and conceit that's ruining football ........"
Garage Joe

It's a bit difficult to make sense of how the authorities decide things sometimes. Take that Sunderland player who had his red card against Liverpool rescinded.

 

They seemed to ignore that he'd been booked already and would have been sent off either way (add in that they wouldn't have been able to appeal if he'd gone for two yellows thanks to the bizarre rules), and so he's effectively got off without a suspension.

disley21
Originally Posted by ッmufッ:
Originally Posted by MrMincePie:

"You'll do what your told... You'll do what your told"

 

 

"Your Man Utd... You'll do what your told"

 

 

2 match ban upheld

Would that be "You're told"

 

 

Don't do spelling on a htc phone

 

 

Rag

 

Don't worry, we will be taking our banner to Wembley next week... keep an eye out for it in your armchair.

 

CITY & UNITED
JOINED BY GEOGRAPHY
SEPARATED BY LITERACY

MrMincePie
Originally Posted by ッmufッ:
Originally Posted by MrMincePie:

Don't do spelling on a htc phone

 

 

Rag

 

Don't worry, we will be taking our banner to Wembley next week... keep an eye out for it in your armchair.

 

CITY & UNITED
JOINED BY GEOGRAPHY
SEPARATED BY LITERACY

Don't forget you sat-nav too so you can find Wembley.. It's down south y'know

Indeed I can just ask a Yernited fan though if I get lost... they will know the way off the back of their hand seeing as they are locals

MrMincePie
Originally Posted by MrMincePie:

Indeed I can just ask a Yernited fan though if I get lost... they will know the way off the back of their hand seeing as they are locals

Been there that many times that I feel like one

Even managed to train them to serve beer with a head on it (took a while though)

You do know that it isn't illegal to follow a team from another town 

Ensign Muf
Originally Posted by Prometheus:
Originally Posted by ッmufッ:

That'd be Newton Heath and West Gorton handbags thank you

 

 

 

 

They sound like made-up places for some sort of dodgy Northern soap opera 

After that City moved into Manchester (Well, Ardwick) and Utd moved to Trafford, hence the somewhat ironic chant of "you don't come from Manchester" from City fans (though there is some confusion as to whether the fans mean city, utd or both)

Interestingly enough Wikipedia has West Gorton as being in Manchester even though it wasn't until 3 years after City left

Ensign Muf
Originally Posted by ッmufッ:
Originally Posted by Prometheus:
Originally Posted by ッmufッ:

That'd be Newton Heath and West Gorton handbags thank you

 

 

 

 

They sound like made-up places for some sort of dodgy Northern soap opera 

After that City moved into Manchester (Well, Ardwick) and Utd moved to Trafford, hence the somewhat ironic chant of "you don't come from Manchester" from City fans (though there is some confusion as to whether the fans mean city, utd or both)

Interestingly enough Wikipedia has West Gorton as being in Manchester even though it wasn't until 3 years after City left

 

To say I am hopelessly confused by that response would be the understatement of the century but thanks anyway for telling me whatever it was you thought you were explaining 

Prometheus
Originally Posted by Prometheus:

To say I am hopelessly confused by that response would be the understatement of the century but thanks anyway for telling me whatever it was you thought you were explaining 

Sorry Prom, It's a northern tradition whereby You have no right to call your self a 'proper' fan unless you were actually born within the centre circle of your chosen team. Though the rule only seems to apply to Man Utd fans. A Liverpool fan from Burnley first pointed it out to me

Ensign Muf

I have no idea what is going on in here

But it's made me smile after a shite footy week, first Arsenal then Brentford!.

 

I did go and watch our babies play on Tuesday night against Sunderland. Brilliant, enjoyable, absorbing game, full of quality on both sides...............apart from Jens Lehman.

Eboue turned up to watch with quite a few of the younger players who weren't playing and was a huge hit with the fans there as he is really approachable and friendly.

Shame he isn't a better footballer!

FM
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Essentially it has all been very poor since city left Maine Road. One could stand in the Kippax, and watch the footie or watch Pink Floyd, and drive home through a park, pausing only to stop for eats in Rusholm.

I found it really hard to sit down to watch footie Joe, to the point where I just stopped going! Bit like the government telling all men that they had to sit down to piss.. possible, but just not right!

Ensign Muf
Originally Posted by ッmufッ:
Originally Posted by Prometheus:

To say I am hopelessly confused by that response would be the understatement of the century but thanks anyway for telling me whatever it was you thought you were explaining 

Sorry Prom, It's a northern tradition whereby You have no right to call your self a 'proper' fan unless you were actually born within the centre circle of your chosen team. Though the rule only seems to apply to Man Utd fans. A Liverpool fan from Burnley first pointed it out to me

 

lol I know what you're trying to say mate but as you already pointed out it's a bloody ridiculous argument. I was born just outside London but in my childhood I idolised Peter Osgood and have been a Chelsea fan ever since. I don't get cockneys supporting Northern teams though or vice versa it just seems utterly bizarre to me. It's like you're going against your own background and the people you grew up with completely. Most odd.

Prometheus
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
I remember the humorous magazine VIZ, whom on receiving a letter slagging off Geordies from a pro United Rochdale person, pointing out that they could find their local team by going down Cemetery Road and looking for a place called Spotlands!

Supporting a team is an affair of the heart though Joe, and you have no control over whom you fall in love with

Though you could just settle for the town bike

Ensign Muf
Originally Posted by Prometheus:
 

lol I know what you're trying to say mate but as you already pointed out it's a bloody ridiculous argument. I was born just outside London but in my childhood I idolised Peter Osgood and have been a Chelsea fan ever since. I don't get cockneys supporting Northern teams though or vice versa it just seems utterly bizarre to me. It's like you're going against your own background and the people you grew up with completely. Most odd.

Lol

You saying Northern teams aren't good enough for a pure blood Southerner?

Ensign Muf

Yeah Prom I'm with you on the geography thing. My elder son (born and raised in North London in a Gooner household) decided when he was five that he wanted to support Man U. It's a phase I thought, he'll get over it I thought!

Nope  At 28 he still supports them, went to Uni in Manchester, goes to OT about a dozen times a season although he can't really afford it - and we argue about footie quite viciously a lot of the time. He will come and watch the Arsenal Ladies and reserves/babies though and support them!!

FM
Originally Posted by ッmufッ:
Originally Posted by Prometheus:
 

lol I know what you're trying to say mate but as you already pointed out it's a bloody ridiculous argument. I was born just outside London but in my childhood I idolised Peter Osgood and have been a Chelsea fan ever since. I don't get cockneys supporting Northern teams though or vice versa it just seems utterly bizarre to me. It's like you're going against your own background and the people you grew up with completely. Most odd.

Lol

You saying Northern teams aren't good enough for a pure blood Southerner?

 

In Man U's case they've been better  I agree with Joe's comment below about supporting your local team and understand completely Veggie's fury at a turncoat son. I'm sure nobody takes me seriously being a Chelsea fan and we 'bought the league' etc but for the vast majority of the 40 years I've supported Chelsea we've been shit  But I wouldn't swap them for the world. One life, one team, innumerable self-inflicted miseries, I'm down with that 

Prometheus
Originally Posted by Veggieburger:

Yeah Prom I'm with you on the geography thing. My elder son (born and raised in North London in a Gooner household) decided when he was five that he wanted to support Man U. It's a phase I thought, he'll get over it I thought!

Nope  At 28 he still supports them, went to Uni in Manchester, goes to OT about a dozen times a season although he can't really afford it - and we argue about footie quite viciously a lot of the time. He will come and watch the Arsenal Ladies and reserves/babies though and support them!!

My Dad is a Liverpool fan... We don't talk about football! I haven't got a history degree which puts me at a disadvantage in any argument anyhow

Ensign Muf
Originally Posted by Prometheus:

In Man U's case they've been better  I agree with Joe's comment below about supporting your local team and understand completely Veggie's fury at a turncoat son. I'm sure nobody takes me seriously being a Chelsea fan and we 'bought the league' etc but for the vast majority of the 40 years I've supported Chelsea we've been shit  But I wouldn't swap them for the world. One life, one team, innumerable self-inflicted miseries, I'm down with that 

I did say that you can't help whom you fall in love with!

Ensign Muf

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