Not appropriate Vids. 

Huh, why? 

Because people are likely to die in Cairo tonight, if they haven't already as I post this.

It seems pretty bloodless so far.

It all ended quite well I thought, the last I saw the Egyptians were dancing in the streets.

Well hoo-bloody-rah. There now has been a military coup then so that's ok then?

It wasn't really a military coup, it was the will of the people of Egypt to remove the guy from power, the military had to deal with the situation to calm things down.

But that's not how democracy works Vids.

Very true, but the Egyptian government were ignoring at least 48% of the people in the country who didn't vote for them, that is also not how democracy works.

We can't look at this through our western democracy eyes as Egypt and countries in that region are very different,  personally I applaud the Egyptian people for demanding change, and in a peaceful way.

The Muslim Brotherhood were taking the country down a very dark path and the people could see that, they want religion and politics kept separate, and I agree with them.

The people voted him in. Just because he didn't do what they wanted doesn't give them a mandate to oust him. There is now an interim Government with new election 6 to 12 months away. What if the next president voted in also comes from the Muslim Brotherhood and they don't like him, do it again and again?

The fact remains they didn't like that government, they were worried about what he had in mind for the future of the country, it's so easy for us here who know nothing about the goings on in Egypt to claim that they were wrong to oust him but they feel they had good reason to fear his ideas for the country.

I'm not up on Politics but don't our Governments, whatever side, nearly always get in power with less than 50% of the overall UK public vote?

If we don't like what they end up doing  we don't go on violent demonstrations to oust each parliament. . we wait til the next elections.. to me THAT is democracy.. we may not like it but that's the way it works, anything else would be anarchy wouldn't it? 

It's happening in Brazil, Turkey, Egypt...  all democratically elected governments. The people are revolting.

Maybe we've become too lazy since the Poll Tax riots (the last time I can remember protests changing policy) but these Egyptians obviously aren't willing to accept their revolution turning into a backward step for the rights they fought for. Some broken promises cannot be shrugged off for four years, when basic human rights are at stake.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl...en-rights-revolution

My response was a more general comment and to do with  the post about 48% of the people not voting that government in, not the ins and outs what they actually did. . am not ignoring that side just talking about  a different point ..

but thanks for the lecture

I will say I don't believe in riots of any kind where violence is involved. . here or abroad. . belittles whatever cause people are 'fighting for'

Wow, OK.

Wasn't going for the 'lecture'. Just putting my point of view.

It is a volatile situation there.  Yes, there are people dancing in the streets, but some 10 miles up the road are an equally large group of civilians who are supporters of the ousted President, all of which are now incredibly annoyed.  It is wrong to assume that the President's removal was the "will of the people".  It was the will of some people...

With such a divide, I fear clashes will be unavoidable, and when this happens a lot of people could be injured, or worse...

yeah but you quoted me and put that link in .. and I did put a playful [that's how I see that emoticon anyway]  after my comment . .

Just seems that I either get ignored on here or get taken wrong of late. .

maybe tis me .. probably is.. best to keep schtum in future I suppose

I agree with you, Olly.

No it's not    -  to Olly's last post.

I agree that ppl in Britain have become very docile although the poll tax riots only got rid of Thatcher, not a Tory Government. Rioting isn't the answer if you live in a country were you have the precious right to vote. 1 year doesn't seem to me to be a long time to eradicate 30 years of Mubarak.

We should all stop buying stamps col   

In a democracy, surely we all have the right to peaceful protest (which is how this started out) whether the government has been democratically elected or not.

We could do the same here if our leaders started abusing their power, breaking promises, targeting the poor and eroding our rights...  

Seriously though, calling yourself the Freedom and Justice Party and then setting out to limit freedoms and deny justice, for those you disagree with, won't win you popular support from a people who have fought for just those things. 

It's a shame that the army had to get involved, but I respect Egyptians' right to protest and their right to ask for new  elections. Morsi promised to govern for all Egyptians, broke that promise and looked determined to make life even worse for already disadvantaged members of society.

It wasn't a violent demonstration, apart from the government supporting police.

As I've said before, we can't judge what happens in Egypt to our democracy here, we have had and "enjoyed" democracy for hundreds of years.

Who could forget what happened in the USA in 2000, when Bush was elected, democracy at it's best.

Are you really that naive?

It's a curse.

Me and millions of Egyptians too I guess.

My first reaction is that Egypt reminds me of the words Egg Yipt

We're pretty good at analysing others problems.

Funny that.

I was thinking that a Muslim Brotherhood winner of the election, was never going to work.

The USA no doubt thought the same, even if they rallied around to find the right words to welcome democracy in Egypt.

The USA finance the Egyptian military and they in turn buy USA weaponary.

Quite cozy really.

I think the figure is in the region of  one and a half billion dollars, please note that the USA  has refused, so far to call the current happenings in Egypt, a coup, because if they used that term they would have to stop the funding...

Latest news: The Egyptians want him back. Go figure.

Hmm., that last bit seems familiar!

This boy is amazing

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...his-countrys-crisis/

Vids is right.

Who feckin cares. The holiday down the Nile is oot but.

It's grandstanding.

Name your Middle East crisis.

Good job Blair's on the case  

A left wing loonie'll put me in my place  

They're nearly as bad as the right wing loonies 

This is the problem.

I pray for good to conquer evil every night along with hope and justice.

But I know it's a brick wall.