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Originally Posted by Saint:

Just watched WAR HORSE

 

Now - i like a bit of sentimentality and i'm sure this made a powerful stage play but . . .

 

This movie was awful.

I'm starting to doubt Speilburg's ability not to drift into stereotyping and blatant set pieces that look sooo forced to be almost comical.

 

In this movie the baddies are really bad and the rest are well meaning thoroughly good types.

The country folks - well them is hard workin and got rosy cheeks so they have.

And the French - well there's a wilful girl who loves horses and is doted on by her Grand Father who has nothing left, except his farm.

Oh did i mention all they like to do is cook?

 

Formula at its worst.

Its a lazy effort, lacking realism or intensity.

I sort of liked it... at least it gave insight into the German viewpoint... not a good film but it had good parts. Formulaic -  yes unfortunately. Wish someone would build on this. 

I suppose what I'm saying is... I never saw it from the German foot soldiers' point of view before... the movie changed my viewpoint. 

FM

 

Winter's Bone - Cinds go away now if you not watched it yet!!

 

From the kick off I am going to need some help on figuring out something but I will come to that later. So we have this girl who would appear to be the "strong" mother to her siblings and a carer to her own mother given that her father is no longer on the scene presumed dead. Not a new scenario by any stretch. They appear to live in a bleak and quite frankly depressing place made all the worse for having family, neighbours and other villages who in the main don't want to help her or provide any assistance in her plight (a supporting metaphor for her circumstances and surroundings?). There is however one glimmer of light in a neighbour who from time to time provides assistance in the form of food for her family and medication when she is assaulted.

 

Now if I have understood the film so far (I found that I could not work out what they were saying sometimes!!). Her dad is a drug dealer of sorts? and has got himself killed. Now he must have upset some of the other villagers given their antagonism toward his daughter, but I could not work out what!

 

Also, I think her dad's brother left toward the end of the film to kill the person/s who had killed his brother, but I'm not sure - some help needed here.

 

The film did not grab me too much, not helped by me missing some key dialogue. 

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:

 

Winter's Bone - Cinds go away now if you not watched it yet!!

 

Now if I have understood the film so far (I found that I could not work out what they were saying sometimes!!). Her dad is a drug dealer of sorts? and has got himself killed. Now he must have upset some of the other villagers given their antagonism toward his daughter, but I could not work out what!

 

Also, I think her dad's brother left toward the end of the film to kill the person/s who had killed his brother, but I'm not sure - some help needed here.

 

*First up, I'm going to repeat the warning that the following contains spoilers.*

 

It's been a while since I saw the movie, so my memory of some of the plot intricacies may be a bit shakey, but anyway:

The story is set in an area where crystal meth manufacture ("cooking") is rife, and Ree's (Jennifer Lawrence) father is a cooker. He's killed by those running the production because they believe he's about to inform on the others to the police (in order to get himself off of similar charges).

It turns out that the bail money for the father (which Ree knows he couldn't have afforded) was put up anonymously by his enemies, so they could kill him once he was released on bail. That's why the bail money is never reclaimed, and the sheriff therefore gives the money to Ree at the end.

 

Teardrop (Ree's uncle) realizes at the end who killed his brother. From memory, I'm not 100% certain (and it's slightly ambiguous anyway), but I think his leaving had as much to do with protecting Ree and the others as it had with chasing the killer. Earlier in the film, Teardrop says that if he knows who the killer is, he'll be a dead man. By going after the killer, he knows he's going to end up dead too, so he leaves to prevent anyone-else getting hurt in the crossfire, so to speak...

 


 

Eugene's Lair
Originally Posted by Eugene's Lair:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:

 

Winter's Bone - Cinds go away now if you not watched it yet!!

 

Now if I have understood the film so far (I found that I could not work out what they were saying sometimes!!). Her dad is a drug dealer of sorts? and has got himself killed. Now he must have upset some of the other villagers given their antagonism toward his daughter, but I could not work out what!

 

Also, I think her dad's brother left toward the end of the film to kill the person/s who had killed his brother, but I'm not sure - some help needed here.

 

*First up, I'm going to repeat the warning that the following contains spoilers.*

 

It's been a while since I saw the movie, so my memory of some of the plot intricacies may be a bit shakey, but anyway:

The story is set in an area where crystal meth manufacture ("cooking") is rife, and Ree's (Jennifer Lawrence) father is a cooker. He's killed by those running the production because they believe he's about to inform on the others to the police (in order to get himself off of similar charges).

It turns out that the bail money for the father (which Ree knows he couldn't have afforded) was put up anonymously by his enemies, so they could kill him once he was released on bail. That's why the bail money is never reclaimed, and the sheriff therefore gives the money to Ree at the end.

 

Teardrop (Ree's uncle) realizes at the end who killed his brother. From memory, I'm not 100% certain (and it's slightly ambiguous anyway), but I think his leaving had as much to do with protecting Ree and the others as it had with chasing the killer. Earlier in the film, Teardrop says that if he knows who the killer is, he'll be a dead man. By going after the killer, he knows he's going to end up dead too, so he leaves to prevent anyone-else getting hurt in the crossfire, so to speak...

 


 

 

Cheers Eugine, that seems to explain a few things.

 

I had picked up on the bit about Teardrop vowing to kill the person responsible if knew, but I was not sure how he came to the realisation. Your explanation of the drugs manufacture has been a big help. I found some of the dialogue a bit difficult to hear - maybe the accents!

 

Thanks Eugine.

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by Saint:

Anyone watched Spirited Away?

 

I'm interested in watching some kinda manga animation - akin to the type shown in Kill Bill.

Any suggestions would be appreciated

 

Not an area of film I've much experience of I'm afraid. I would probably do some on-line review searches and see what looks popular and probably start there. I have seen little bits, but cannot remember what it was.

 

I think I might go on YouTube now and see what I can find.

 

Best of luck in your search Saint, and don't forget to update the films thread 

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by Saint:

Anyone watched Spirited Away?

 

I'm interested in watching some kinda manga animation - akin to the type shown in Kill Bill.

Any suggestions would be appreciated

"Spirited Away" is wonderful, but hardly similar to the "Kill Bill" manga.

It's a family film, often likened to "Alice in Wonderland". It's pretty much the definitive Hayao Miyazaki movie (and that's saying a lot).

Eugene's Lair
Originally Posted by Eugene's Lair:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Anyone watched Spirited Away?

 

I'm interested in watching some kinda manga animation - akin to the type shown in Kill Bill.

Any suggestions would be appreciated

"Spirited Away" is wonderful, but hardly similar to the "Kill Bill" manga.

It's a family film, often likened to "Alice in Wonderland". It's pretty much the definitive Hayao Miyazaki movie (and that's saying a lot).

 

Interesting info Eugene, clearly a subject you have some knowledge of. What would you suggest is more similar to the Kill Bill style of animation?

 

The other piece of animation I saw was Tekkonkinkreet, mainly because I linked there via a group who's music I like - Plaid.

 

https://vimeo.com/1679676

 

Edit: Sorry, I should have said that the link is to music and not any video.

 

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:

Interesting info Eugene, clearly a subject you have some knowledge of. What would you suggest is more similar to the Kill Bill style of animation?

 

The other piece of animation I saw was Tekkonkinkreet, mainly because I linked there via a group who's music I like - Plaid.

 

https://vimeo.com/1679676

 

Edit: Sorry, I should have said that the link is to music and not any video.

 

Oh boy: where to start?

I do like a lot of Japanese films, but I wouldn't consider myself all that big a manga fan. Most of the Japanese animation I like is from Studio Ghibli, who tend to do "family" movies, and made "Spirited Away" (as mentioned above). Their films are often influenced by British children's fiction (they recently made "Arrietty" - an animated version of "The Borrowers").

 

On a more "adult" level (and probably closer to what you're looking for), the biggy has got to be "Akira". Some people seem to think it a little dated now, but it's difficult to understate just how important and influential it has been. It's generally credited with popularizing anime outside Japan, and it practically defined the genre for years. Visually, it can still astonish.

Another one - maybe - would be "Ghost in the Shell". Note however that these are both Science Fiction movies, unlike the works you've mentioned.

Eugene's Lair
Originally Posted by Saint:

Twas on TV recently and i missed it

DVD in BlockBusters was on loan and when it was my turn to borrow they said it was damaged so taken off the shelves.

From what I saw (a trailer) it looks good but not really what i'm looking for  - but will defo watch when i given the chance though.

 

A shame you did not get the opportunity to rent it, but they may get another copy in. 

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities

Recently i watched:

 

Hit and Run - it was hit and miss - see wot I did there

 

Resident Evil 4 (or something) - really rather good cos i fancy the arse off Mila Yo-yo-bitch ... good stuff all the same but not as good as the previuos one.

 

Sinister - i wasn't scared - it was quite interesting with the home video scenario but end was trash.

 

Hobbit - first hour was self indulgent twaddle - the rest was great.

Looks good and action was epic.

Saint
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Twas on TV recently and i missed it

DVD in BlockBusters was on loan and when it was my turn to borrow they said it was damaged so taken off the shelves.

From what I saw (a trailer) it looks good but not really what i'm looking for  - but will defo watch when i given the chance though.

 

A shame you did not get the opportunity to rent it, but they may get another copy in. 

Je is really looking for the type of stuff used in Kill Bill

 

Me bro said there was a cartoon of space travellers used during a break in Swap Shop on a saturday. He said it was a bit like the stuff in Kill Bill. Anyone remember it?

Saint
Originally Posted by Saint:

Recently i watched:

 

Hit and Run - it was hit and miss - see wot I did there

 

Resident Evil 4 (or something) - really rather good cos i fancy the arse off Mila Yo-yo-bitch ... good stuff all the same but not as good as the previuos one.

 

Sinister - i wasn't scared - it was quite interesting with the home video scenario but end was trash.

 

Hobbit - first hour was self indulgent twaddle - the rest was great.

Looks good and action was epic.

Moonie
Originally Posted by Jenstar:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Jenstar:

Oblivion anyone?

I would like to see it. But I think I may have to see it on the little blu disc !

I enjoyed it, i wouldn't say it was brilliant though

 

I'm just watching Wanted on Itv2+1, what a brilliant film.

 

I bought that on blu-ray for ÂĢ4 a few years ago. I stick it on once every so often. Thing is, I'm not a Joile fan.

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by Saint:

Thor - excellent

Capt America - not so good

 

Darkest Hour - very, very good. Should have been given a huge budget.

A sequel is well deserved. Watch the extras - it shows how it is just the begining.

 

I thought Thor and Capt. America were OK. I watched them mainly because of the tie in to The Avengers Assembled.

 

Darkest Hour was OK too, not a brilliant film IMO, but worth a watch. I'm not sure how much mileage there would be in a sequel Saint.

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by Saint:

Cannot praise the Sherlock Holmes movies enough (Jude Law and Downey Jnr)

A third is rumoured - nice

 

I liked the Sherlock films a lot and recently bought them on blu-ray. I preferred the first to the second, but I need to re-watch the second again. I too have heard they may be a third - from the mouth of RDJ - Just trying to get Jude on board.

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by Saint:

Sweet - have you watched BOLT.

About a dog who thinks he's a super hero

Its prob the best animated comedy i've seen recently

 

I was not blown away by BOLT. When it comes to animated films I like The Incredibles and Bugs life a lot more. Cars 2 I thought was better than Cars 1. Monsters INC is another fave of mine.

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Saint:

Thor - excellent

Capt America - not so good

 

Darkest Hour - very, very good. Should have been given a huge budget.

A sequel is well deserved. Watch the extras - it shows how it is just the begining.

 

I thought Thor and Capt. America were OK. I watched them mainly because of the tie in to The Avengers Assembled.

 

Darkest Hour was OK too, not a brilliant film IMO, but worth a watch. I'm not sure how much mileage there would be in a sequel Saint.

Did you watch the extras - its in there that its shown how the problem esculates and the world starts pulling together.

Sheds another dimension into it

Saint

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