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But arent we happy he got involved? Im tired of the sitting on the fence to avoid nominations.. Someone had to put her in her place and he did it without swearing and cursing... He reminds me of Dave Cameron lol

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Originally posted by Scotty:
Lots of you didn`t see the fight last night so I`ll try to explain.
I know Olly is going to LUT it soon but I`ll give some detail the noo.

Siavash told Noirin that he THOUGHT that some people in the house thought she was a "rabbit" jumping from group to group.

She insisted he tell her who. He was very reluctant but eventually said he THOUGHT Karly and Kris.

She then approached the mob in the bedroom like a mad woman and spilled the beans on Siavash.
They all started attacking Siavash. Kris and Karl denied it.
Noireen then twisted it to say that Siavash had said they SAID it. He said he thought they thought it.

He wasn`t explaining himself very well so Freddie came to his defence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIPjCq-xC4s

Siavash was furious that she betrayed him. He said she had spoken about people but he would never reveal what she said.
Charli wanted him to spill the beans and he almost did by mentioning Lisa`s name then he stopped himself.
Panic on Noireen`s face.

The group then calmed down and things turned against Noireen because they believed Siavash.

Noireen left the room and was listening at the bedroom door. She heard Lisa and others back Siavash.

She then got Marcus out of his bed to talk to him in the garden bawling at him that he didn`t back her. He said he couldn`t because he didn`t know the full story.
He said she was absolutely wrong in betraying Siavash the way she did because he had said what he said as a friend.
She tried every way to get him on her side, continually stirring about Siavash, but he wasn`t having it.
He admired Freddie for saying what he did and that made her even more furious.

He advised her to apologise but she wasn`t having any of it. Still insisting that he said they said it.
She was like a woman possesed calling them all freaks etc.
Marcus said be prepared for a difficult day tomorrow......

That`s about it folks.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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But arent we happy he got involved? Im tired of the sitting on the fence to avoid nominations.. Someone had to put her in her place and he did it without swearing and cursing... He reminds me of Dave Cameron lol

Yes, he did well to shut Noirin up and let her know where she stands with him. But I'm still of the mind that Fred should have kept out of it. I suppose it was as a result of all the emotions he has had to keep buttoned-up for weeks on end. Not David Cameron tho, more Edward Norton lol.

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Mmmm, Edward Norton... yes!

I'm glad he didn't keep out of it. She was calling his friend a liar and stirrer and he was displaying massive amounts of loyalty by defending him to the hilt. His unconditional support was amazing, Siavash should count himself lucky, I'm sure we'd all value a friend like Freddie.

They always say that Boy/girl friends come and go but you always have your friends. Perhaps this incident will bring Freddie, Siavash and Marcus to their senses and realise who they can depend on, and it aint Noirin.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
But steph, none of them defended Fred for the past four weeks. When he was being attacked from all sides, where were Marcus and Siavash? He was showing loyalty because that is what Fred is like. But he probably now feels confident enough to speak up, hence the outburst. It was a brilliant performance tho

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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
But steph, none of them defended Fred for the past four weeks. When he was being attacked from all sides, where were Marcus and Siavash? He was showing loyalty because that is what Fred is like. But he probably now feels confident enough to speak up, hence the outburst. It was a brilliant performance tho

Worse than that, Marcus actually made a point of saying that he wasn't standing up for Freddie, when he first stood up to Lisa about being a bully!

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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
Thanks Scotty, makes more sense now! The beginning of the end for Borin Noirin!!

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Originally posted by Mollie:

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Originally posted by wandawitch:

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Originally posted by swg:

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Siavash told Noirin that he THOUGHT that some people in the house thought she was a "rabbit" jumping from group to group.

She insisted he tell her who. He was very reluctant but eventually said he THOUGHT Karly and Kris.

Was that even on LF? Because Siavash said he did NOT mention either Kris or Karly when he was in the bed at around 3:30am

Siavash is a trouble maker. He THOUGHT Karly and Kris but what was his evidence.He shouldn't have mentioned anyone's name if he had no proof.

Wanda, you probably know I have been defending Noirin on here, and I still think some peoples opinions of her pre last night, was incredibly harsh and unfair... BUT.. I watched the livefeed and I was horrified by her behavior and reaction, which by the way was drink induced (no excuse)

I truely feel Siavash was looking out for her, warning her about some of the stuff he has been hearing about her jumping from camp to camp... he was warning her as a friend... she completely went off on one... if you remember she has been in bad form (could be hormones)and all she needed was an excuse to lose the head... and boy did she do that...

I cannot defend her behavior, she was shouting over Siavash when he tried to explain where he was coming from, he meant no malice at all... she has surely lost the one person in that house that did actually like her for her ( and not her body) I don't think she can come back from this, if she is up she will go...

Her bad language was unbelievable, effing every second word.. not a classy lady I have to say, and I am disappointed

I really think she is not as bad as fm's say she is ie conniving and manipulative but she was disgraceful and bullheaded last night and would not listen to reason...

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Regards Siavash, I'm not 100% convinced he's as cool and good intentioned as he makes out. I think he's a very controlled person and is carefully considering every move. Nowt wrong with that I suppose, but I'm just not sure his heart is as pure as he makes out. He's still my No.2 though after Freddie. Says a lot about the rest of them

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Originally posted by swg:
But we haven't actually seen what Siavash said, just seen the aftermath

He only CLAIMS to say he said he thought what others think

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
exactly Blizz. I'm glad we see and remember the same things. Do you think Fred was right to get involved?

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Originally posted by carotino:
Siavash sowing the seeds of paranoia. Gone off him.

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Hiya LMS... Hope you are ok after yesterday....

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Originally posted by Bethni:
There was one important bit about last night's fight...Noirin ASKED Freddie in the lounge area what he'd heard and to back her up..they were both alone at that point. He told her Siavash was trying to be a friend. She lost it completely, jumped up and stormed away toward's the bedroom and Lisa, of course.She shouted at Freddie that he was a liar.Freddie shouted back at her, 'Get back here' then followed her into the room saying, 'You can't just attack people, call them liar's and get away with it'. He was the angriest i have seen him and it was amn good to watch lol.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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But arent we happy he got involved? Im tired of the sitting on the fence to avoid nominations.. Someone had to put her in her place and he did it without swearing and cursing... He reminds me of Dave Cameron lol

Yes, he did well to shut Noirin up and let her know where she stands with him. But I'm still of the mind that Fred should have kept out of it. I suppose it was as a result of all the emotions he has had to keep buttoned-up for weeks on end. Not David Cameron tho, more Edward Norton lol.

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Originally posted by disley21:
Jesus, even the 'fight nights' don't sound worth watching, this year is truly awful.

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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
exactly Blizz. I'm glad we see and remember the same things. Do you think Fred was right to get involved?

In that situation, yes, although I think he has been too trusting of Siavash and Marcus.

I think he explained what he had heard and the context of the conversation, but Noirin going off on one and calling him a liar, meant that he had to defend himself too.

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Originally posted by TiGi:

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Originally posted by swg:
But we haven't actually seen what Siavash said, just seen the aftermath

He only CLAIMS to say he said he thought what others think

Nope we haven't. It will be very interesting to see that conversation and to hear what Siavash ACTUALLY did say, until then I'll reserve judgement.

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Originally posted by Deegs:

Bless you, Scotty for this pain-free version xx

Was trying to follow it live, but the pitch of annNoyrin's screeching voice was like a drill working through my brain!

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Perhaps you are right. I wish my bluddy tape had worked last night Blizz as I haven't seen the full row with the ability to put it in context. She said Fred was in the toilet and didn't know the full facts. That is possible. But if he was in the bedroom toilet he would have heard it all. And that would explain something. It could also be Freddie taking the opportunity to tell them all a few home truths, and grandstanding with a brilliant speech. Either way, he has made it clear that he has a voice, and a very loud posh one at that lol.

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Originally posted by carotino:
Siavash sowing the seeds of paranoia. Gone off him.

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Originally posted by Bethni:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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But arent we happy he got involved? Im tired of the sitting on the fence to avoid nominations.. Someone had to put her in her place and he did it without swearing and cursing... He reminds me of Dave Cameron lol

Yes, he did well to shut Noirin up and let her know where she stands with him. But I'm still of the mind that Fred should have kept out of it. I suppose it was as a result of all the emotions he has had to keep buttoned-up for weeks on end. Not David Cameron tho, more Edward Norton lol.

Twee it was Noirin who brought Freddie into it... she was hoping he would back her up. When he didn't she stormed away from him branding him a liar... he gave as good as he got back.
Well Done Freddie

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realise that now bethi. I didn't see the part you mentioned, the part that started the row off in the first place. My tape-setting was a bit crap, so I missed it. I hope they show the whole thing tonight and the truth will out. It seems Fred was in on the row from the start and that changes everything. He wasn't interfering in other's rows like I had assumed. Apologies xxx

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
Wowee
Pretty ironic, when you consider what started it. Siavash tells Noirin it's thought that she goes from group to group.
So she disproves bit by, err, going from group to group.

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
Wowee
Pretty ironic, when you consider what started it. Siavash tells Noirin it's thought that she goes from group to group.
So she disproves bit by, err, going from group to group.

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
Wowee
Pretty ironic, when you consider what started it. Siavash tells Noirin it's thought that she goes from group to group.
So she disproves bit by, err, going from group to group.

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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
Wowee
Pretty ironic, when you consider what started it. Siavash tells Noirin it's thought that she goes from group to group.
So she disproves bit by, err, going from group to group.

Indeed!

But now she's decided that she's going to join the other group and that she was only mixing with the 'effing weirdos' (Freddie and Siavash) because Marcus was friends with them and she is friends with Marcus!

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Originally posted by angelicarwen:

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Originally posted by Blizzie:

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Originally posted by Demantoid:
Wowee
Pretty ironic, when you consider what started it. Siavash tells Noirin it's thought that she goes from group to group.
So she disproves bit by, err, going from group to group.

Indeed!

But now she's decided that she's going to join the other group and that she was only mixing with the 'effing weirdos' (Freddie and Siavash) because Marcus was friends with them and she is friends with Marcus!

She certainly has charm

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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
Longer clip taken from Freddie and Noirin in the lounge

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